This supposed to make a difference somehow?

 

How many new ones ripped are you going to end up with when the dust settles? I know the guy who designed and sold the Brahma, Dan Wiggins, many years ago, I had some interesting discussions with him. LOL at you

 

Son, you are as clueless as the others, lack of common sense must be just the icing on the cake.

 

You quoted the wrong reply.
In any event it's just what I thought. You have nothing. You need a condition to post pictures of your work? I would think you would want to show off what you've been preaching about. I have no problem showing my work with no condition. Here is the harness I made to connect to the factory HU and supply low level output to the amps.



Here are the amps. One for the front speakers and one for the sub.
300 watts each. Rear speakers are factory and still powered by HU.


Here is the door speakers. Replacing the factory junk. This was taken before the dynamat install. I don't have a picture of that.


Here is my sub. 12" Rockford Fosgate powered by 300 watt Kenwood monoblock amp.



Again, let me know if you need help posting pictures of what you have. I would be happy to help you if you can't figure out how to do it.

 

as a former MECP certified advanced installer for just under 20 years professionally, and a part-time musician, studio and live (just threw that in because I think that makes my opinion of sound quality a bit more valid ), I must say, this thread is hilarious

ALL of you make valid points of one factor or another, but you HAVE to find a middle ground. MOST people will not tear apart a car to find optimal placement for sound stage, spatial time perfection, etc. they just want better sound from what the factory provisions allow, so they replace what they can with what they have to work with.

I have put stereos in everything from golf carts and Geo Metros to multimillion $ motor coaches, and everything in between, including Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, ect... so, I can say this: aftermarket audio components-HU, speakers, amps, etc- are almost ALWAYS better than OEM. they have a higher dynamic range when tested on the standard 1 watt/1 meter oscillation sweep, typically are made of better materials, are more thermally efficient, and WAY better for set-up processes-time correction, crossover adjustment, slope roll-off, Q factor, and so on. this means that in 99% of cases, they WILL sound better than factory parts, including "premium" systems like Bose, who albeit are much better than they used to be, are IMPO the worst audio manufacturer on the planet, auto and home (yes, I have extensive experience here too). there is a saying in the audio realm; no highs? no lows? MUST be Bose!

also, please allow me to correct a few misconceptions...
peter, you keep calling the factory speakers coaxes. the factory 3 1/2 Bose speakers are NOT coaxial. they are just a single axis mid driver. coaxes are two speakers (usually a driver and separate tweeter) mounted on the same axis pole. hence the name, coaxial. the factory system does NOT have a single tweeter in it anywhere. which is why it rolls off so sharply at +/- 11khz. not because of their placement in the vehicle doors.

also, peter, I have used an RTA, and on just doing HU and speaker replacement, yes you can shift the sound stage up and forward, as well as create a more "flat" sound field for the acoustics of the inside of your car, by doing this. if you want proof, I do not still have any of mine saved, BUT Crutchfield just did this test, with ALL the same gear you say you are a professional with, just replacing factory equipment and printed it on their website and in their magazine circulation. please, feel free to read up on this and, if you feel you must, continue to call them, and me, idiots.

 

Ah, a MECP... let me educate you about speaker cone diameter and frequency response-they are INDEPENDENT, you may want to remember this one Thanks for pointing me toward Crutchfield, LOL... Yes, I want a proof that by swapping the speakers without changing location or aiming, you can change the location of the stage, its height and focal point. This is limited to conventional drivers, horns and waveguides and arrays excluded, please enlighten me. Feel free to explain how accomplish phase shift correction by those speaker swaps while you are at it. Remember, you explicitly stated the stage can be moved by simply swapping speakers. I am calling you out on this one. Fire away Also, explain how it is possible to have any kind of stereo effect with speakers pointed directly at each other. I assume you understand the difference between panned mono and actual stereo effect and what is needed to at least attempt to emulate it.

And please, stop sounding like a sales brochure, you'd starve counting on making a sale with me...

 

Go back to the sandbox, as expected, you have no answers...

 

And you have no proof of your work. You are a phoney. Really, if you dont know how to post pictures just say so.

 

And your continued use of the word sandbox tells me something else about you.

 

I get it now...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/audi...post1579048042

There is only one phony thing around here: audio advice given by you and others,. you should be held liable for misleading people.

You have no clue what stereo is why it is not even possible in a car audio system, especially when speakers are mounted in the doors firing at each other. And you advise others to disconnect the center channel to IMPROVE STEREO SEPARATION? I honestly hope nobody follows your advice here or anywhere else.

 

Post pictures of your work. You do take pictures of your work, dont you?

 

 

peterjm, there were very substantial differences in the 93-02 F-body systems not only before and after the mid cycle refresh but also unique to Chevrolet and Pontiac, tiered again to base and premium, and tiered yet again to coupe vs. convertible. Quantity and placement of the drivers, amplification, and effective enclosures for the drivers all varied wildly.

However I realize providing facts pertinent to the actual post doesn't present any unrelated insults or fallacies, and you may find this scary and confusing. Sorry in advance.

 

What does that have to do with the subject discussed here? I show you mine, you show me yours routine works in kindergarten.

Once again, answer the questions And how is that stereo separation working out for you?

 

I get tired writing, why don't you list the speakers and their locations in my 94 TA vs. your 2002 TA or are you just talking out of your behind? Go ahead, let us see what you really know.

 

As I suspected, the advice to improve the audio system is being given out without even a very basic understanding of the acoustics and sound propagation in car environment? Still waiting for the experts to deliver the crushing blow...

How is this possible to give advice about something one does not understand? LOL

 

This thread is so funny, the self proclaimed expert Peter is the only one that is unwilling or unable to show what his expertise is based on, no experience, photos or any evidence at all as what qualifies him to be an expert. All we have is his word and his continuing to say we are all stupid and don't know anything.
Very strange to me, I would love to know what your background and experience is Peter so that I can determine if you are all BS or as smart as you say you are, (not going to take your word for that). I understand that you have no obligation to prove anything to me or this forum but just based on the fact that you keep saying everyone is wrong and knows nothing I would think you would want to, unless of course you are all BS.
PS, I asked the same thing last time you insisted that you were the smartest in the discussion and no else had any valid inputs, a thread in the Audio Section a couple months ago. You refused to validate your expertise then also.
Paul

 

 

You got it backwards bud. I am the only one who does not claim to be an expert and strongly recommend leaving things alone in corvette outside of turning down the rear speakers. Now, there seems to be a bunch of experts around here who obviously have enough expertise to justify spending money to accomplish audio improvements in corvette. Yet, nobody seems to be able to explain why they do what they do. Typically, there is a reason why improvement can be claimed, yet absolutely nobody can provide a rationale to replace current drivers with smaller ones and disconnect the center channel. Is the urge/compulsion to spend money and change thing for change's sake the only explanation?

 

QUOTE=petermj;1580453860]I tell you what, you first prove my statements regarding the audio upgrades wrong and then you will see the picture. And you better back up your statements with more than just your ears for a change or wisecracks from other audio enthusiasts who continue to dump their money down the toilet. Until then, you and others keep on playing in this car audio sandbox and I'll enjoy the sideshow. You and others are free to call on those so called experts. All you have to do is prove me wrong. If you succeed, I may show you more than just Brahma, I have a few other subwoofers and variety of other drivers. Go for it sport[/QUOTE]