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Old 10-24-2012, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Never-Enough
I'm aware of that. I just think that is a bit low with the current HP wars. Especially since this is GM's flagship car.
I agree. Considering they kept the displacement the same and added a lot of new technology, they only picked up 14 hp over the NPP equiped LS3. Pretty disappointing to me. And please don't tell me about power under the curve. I know all about that. With six speed transmissions (and maybe more) power under the curve is not as important as it used to be in a light car. Besides, the LS3 has plenty of torque already.

Consider that the Chrysler SRT-8 now has 470 hp with about the same displacement and no direct injection.
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Originally Posted by Racer
6.2 liters 450/450. So much for the 5.5 liter theories.
yup, my thoughts exactly... time to sell my GS

Originally Posted by Never-Enough


The C7 is supposed to be revolutionary & they give it a whopping 20 more HP? Same old GM.
who said revolutionary means whopping horsepower? sort of simplistic dontcha think??? besides, I think evolutionary rather than revolutionary is what they were going for, sort of like Porsche, which is a good thing IMO

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2013 Lamborghini Aventador utilizes cylinder deactivation....
Old 10-24-2012, 02:31 PM
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They can probably get another 30hp or so very easily out of the motor. In fact, they probably will uncork that 30hp in 2017 to the dismay of the early adopters.
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So does the honda Pilot, what's your point Adam? We are talking about probably the most iconic car America has ever built and they decrease the power while Ford, Dodge and even Chevy (ZL1) keep increasing! Makes no sense to me!
Old 10-24-2012, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
450hp can't shred cheese in comparison to todays market! You have a ZL1 with 580, a Viper making 640, hell even the six cylinder 4.0 Porsche is making 500hp. We can go on and on, don't forget the Mustang!! 450 is an embarrassment IMO.
Issue is the 5.0 in NA form is about tapped out compared to what the 6.2 engine can do.

ZL1 has 580 hp but is 4100+ pounds. That base model Vette will run door to door with the ZL1. You also havent seen the gearing in the new Vette and that is a factor in acceleration that is often times overlooked.

This is the base Vette, comparing it to a 6 figure car like the Viper is not even right. 450 hp is not an embarrassment. It makes more hp/liter than your LS7.....and more torque per liter.

So where does the embarrassment end?

Originally Posted by Never-Enough
I'm aware of that. I just think that is a bit low with the current HP wars. Especially since this is GM's flagship car.
I think you are forgetting this is the base engine. To me Corvette is taking on a better standpoint with having so many different variations. Much like a Porsche with its many models.

Originally Posted by jschindler
I agree. Considering they kept the displacement the same and added a lot of new technology, they only picked up 14 hp over the NPP equiped LS3. Pretty disappointing to me. And please don't tell me about power under the curve. I know all about that. With six speed transmissions (and maybe more) power under the curve is not as important as it used to be in a light car. Besides, the LS3 has plenty of torque already.

Consider that the Chrysler SRT-8 now has 470 hp with about the same displacement and no direct injection.
I agree. The SRT-8 is rated on the conservative side as well.

Have you ever looked at the cam profiles in those things? The stock LS3 cam is pretty mild.

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2013 Lamborghini Aventador utilizes cylinder deactivation....
My lawnmower has a ram air injection system. Whats your point?
Old 10-24-2012, 02:37 PM
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i must admit after all the speculation i was very surprised how low the power numbers came in...and very surprised more people arent disappointed in this.
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We've also got all the videos that GM released, showing animations of the inner workings and some dyno pulls, up on Corvette Online...

http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/g...inner-details/
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
So does the honda Pilot, what's your point Adam? We are talking about probably the most iconic car America has ever built and they decrease the power while Ford, Dodge and even Chevy (ZL1) keep increasing! Makes no sense to me!
Challenger and ZL1 are a lot heavier than the Corvette. Weight is a factor.
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First they didn't decrease base vs base power.

The current C6 has 430hp, this car will have 20 more horses. There will be a high performance model, and that will come in due time. This is typical GM marketing..release the base car and create hype and sales...some time down the road release the high performance model with more power and create more sales/hype...

You can trust me when I tell you that GM has the integrity of the car in high regard. They would not ruin their flagship on a less than stellar engine. With over 10 million hours of R&D it will be an amazing piece of machinery worthy of being the base engine.
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TLS according to the press release it is a 6.2! So then I guess it doesn't make more power than an LS7! Also it is very fair to compare all cars, the 4.0 GT3RS is a six cylinder and it will spank the new Vette, is that unfair? As I said in my opinion they are doing the wrong thing, even if they eventually come out with a hp beast it should have been introduced at the same time! Seems to me they weren't/aren't prepared! I'm glad I bought a C6 427 when I did...PERIOD.
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Big Dan, that wouldn't be proper marketing would it though?

Did Camaro introduce the ZL1 at the same time they introduced the standard Camaro?

Did Mustang introduce the Shelby Super Snake the same time they did the Mustang GT?

Proper marketing says to spread out the release to help generate more sales.
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Get that active fuel management the heck out of here. Its a high horsepower, high performance sports car......... Active Fuel Management has absolutely no place on a corvette.
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Sounds exciting!
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I hear you Adam, it is certainly a marketing ploy! In the same breath who are they really fooling, there will be buyers for base models, track rats, verts and king of the hills!! And p.s. did Dodge hold back on the release of the new Viper? Evolution is part of a products success, I get that! It just seems to me to be a big disappointment they only increased the hp by 20 and have the thoroughbred crowd holding their %$&*!!! Also the icon should be putting out more power than alot of its own companies product, i.e. the ZL and the V Caddy. 450 is weak in this climate, if they are relying on heritage and looks they may do well, the powerplant is inferior IMO respectfully speaking!
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Originally Posted by Adam Boca
Big Dan, that wouldn't be proper marketing would it though?

Did Camaro introduce the ZL1 at the same time they introduced the standard Camaro?

Did Mustang introduce the Shelby Super Snake the same time they did the Mustang GT?

Proper marketing says to spread out the release to help generate more sales.
Good Points


Also, thanks for the info regarding the Press Release
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Not a bad starting point.

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Originally Posted by kck77
Get that active fuel management the heck out of here. Its a high horsepower, high performance sports car......... Active Fuel Management has absolutely no place on a corvette.
My Dodge RAM 1500 had the AFM (active fuel management, shut down 4 cylinders) and it had a button on the dash that you could push to turn it off. Hopefully if they put it on the new Vette they will include the same type of option.

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Why are you so angry?

Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
TLS according to the press release it is a 6.2!
I NEVER said it wasnt a 6.2. Where do you get that from? I even mentioned 6.2 in my post. Perhaps you are looking at where I said 6 figure....meaning car costing over 100k.

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So then I guess it doesn't make more power than an LS7!
I never said it makes more power. I said it makes more power PER LITER. Your really should read an entire post.

Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
Also it is very fair to compare all cars, the 4.0 GT3RS is a six cylinder and it will spank the new Vette, is that unfair?
Its not unfair but how about we compare it to a Bugatti? Sound fair?

Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
As I said in my opinion they are doing the wrong thing, even if they eventually come out with a hp beast it should have been introduced at the same time! Seems to me they weren't/aren't prepared! I'm glad I bought a C6 427 when I did...PERIOD.
It shouldnt, It kills people buying the new base car. Marketing.
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
450hp can't shred cheese in comparison to todays market! You have a ZL1 with 580, a Viper making 640, hell even the six cylinder 4.0 Porsche is making 500hp. We can go on and on, don't forget the Mustang!! 450 is an embarrassment IMO.
not to happy myself.


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