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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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How often should I change the oil in my 2007 Vette? Last changed last April 2017 and drove it 2000 miles. Synthetic oil was put in. Should I change anyway or is it OK to go another year without changing?
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Ideally you should change it every 12 months regardless of miles. I average about 2.5k miles per season and always change it before hibernating the car.
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I change every year or 10,000 mile whichever is first.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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Ehhh...

The owner's manuals and oil companies will tell you to change once a year, and I generally do. That said, on the Bob site, you'll see plenty of people that have had oil analysis done at 18 or 24 months that show the oil is still protecting well. The lone exceptions seem to be, as expected, those that only took very short trips and never got the oil temp up enough for a bit to burn the moisture.

So....every official recommendation is to change it at a year. Just about every technical analysis that have been shared shows you can go longer (provided you don't do only very short trips). Choice is yours (obviously). Personally, I wouldn't worry about a few more months, but would probably do it before the winter, and not push to 2 years.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 07:47 PM
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I'm another one that does it every year even if low miles.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 07:52 PM
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I change mine when the DIC says 10% or less, or if I reach a year since the last change before it does.
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I will check the owners manual --I think there should be something in there.... I need to change mine also -
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I change mine when the DIC says 10% or less, or if I reach a year since the last change before it does.
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I've never changed before the OLM reached 4%. I've gone over 16K miles and never less than 9K miles. I don't pay attention to the calendar, except on the wife's birthday and anniversary.
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I guess I'm still too Old School. Mine is a daily driver, and I change the oil every 2500 - 3000 miles.
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This is probably way over kill but I use one of three indications to change my oil:

1. DIC says 50% Oil Life Remaining

2. 5000 miles

3. 12 months

Oil is relatively inexpensive compared to having to do engine work. Oil is a cheap investment to keep the engine running without damage.
I am a retired Airline Pilot and know that when it comes to engines, Oil is Life. As a boat owner, I do the same, every 50 hours of operation the engines get new oil. Again, cheap price to pay.
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Originally Posted by 45gunner
This is probably way over kill but I use one of three indications to change my oil:

1. DIC says 50% Oil Life Remaining

2. 5000 miles

3. 12 months

Oil is relatively inexpensive compared to having to do engine work. Oil is a cheap investment to keep the engine running without damage.
I am a retired Airline Pilot and know that when it comes to engines, Oil is Life. As a boat owner, I do the same, every 50 hours of operation the engines get new oil. Again, cheap price to pay.
Yup, agree. Oil is to an engine as blood is to our bods. Although trying to define "dirty" is a moving target.

When I had motorcycles I would always change the oil before putting them up for the winter.

Overall, it really only matters in the long run though. Change as recommended vs. letting it run a lot longer (although NOT letting it run low) it might make a measurable difference in 200-300 thousand miles (which is irrelevant to me).

But, as mentioned, fresh oil and a filter is cheap insurance.
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Originally Posted by 45gunner
This is probably way over kill but I use one of three indications to change my oil:

1. DIC says 50% Oil Life Remaining

2. 5000 miles

3. 12 months

Oil is relatively inexpensive compared to having to do engine work. Oil is a cheap investment to keep the engine running without damage.
I am a retired Airline Pilot and know that when it comes to engines, Oil is Life. As a boat owner, I do the same, every 50 hours of operation the engines get new oil. Again, cheap price to pay.
I'm with you on 1 and 2....3 does not apply to me.
Have always changed oil and filter by OLM 50%.
At 200,000 miles and still runs like new.

Cheap insurance.
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I've never changed before the OLM reached 4%. I've gone over 16K miles and never less than 9K miles. I don't pay attention to the calendar, except on the wife's birthday and anniversary.
I do this thing where I pull out the dip stick and look at the oil. If it looks like it needs changing then i'll change it. Thats usually when it just starts getting difficult to read the dip-stick through the oil. I mean what....if I go 367 days without an oil change the motor will soon implode.... I've gone two years and sometimes 3 on all my hobby cars and never had an oil related problem. But I must admit that it's kinda hard to read the dip-stick sometimes cause the oils all gray and stuff due to all the condensation thats built up.................
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With the Mobil 1 rebates that come out every year, you can get oil and filters super cheap. Stupid cheap. So just change it every year, no matter the miles. Then you can rest easy and never worry about it.
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The key is how you drove the 2000 miles. If the reason for the low mileage is that almost all your trips are very short, such as commuting to an office a mile or two away, where the oil seldom gets hot, then you should definitely change after a year. If the reason for low mileage is that you don’t drive it very often, but when you do drive it, you usually go far enough (several miles) for the oil to get hot, then with full synthetic you can safely and easily go two years. The reason short trips are a killer is that water vapor is a major product of combustion, and small but significant amounts of combustion products get past the piston rings into the crankcase. When the engine and oil are cold, some of that water vapor condenses into liquid water, and if the oil never gets hot enough to evaporate the water, carboxylic acids will form. The oil doesn’t have to get to 212F to boil away the water, it will evaporate away, and any carboxylic acids will decompose, if the oil gets into the 170-180F range. If you look at your instruments to see how hot you have gotten, remember that it's the oil temp that matters. Coolant temp warms up much faster than oil temp, and for this issue, coolant temp is totally irrelevant.

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I guess I'm still too Old School. Mine is a daily driver, and I change the oil every 2500 - 3000 miles.
Old school here too; every 2500 - 3000 miles.
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If you use a quality synthetic oil, you can run some ridiculous mileage intervals (assuming a normal driving style, no track days). However, the limiting factor is the oil filter. All things considered, I change oil in my cars and bikes at 6000 mike intervals. The oil could go much longer but I want a fresh filter.
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Originally Posted by NewfGuy
I guess I'm still too Old School. Mine is a daily driver, and I change the oil every 2500 - 3000 miles.
Originally Posted by Wayne88
Old school here too; every 2500 - 3000 miles.
I'll bet your OLM is probably still at 75-80% at that mileage. What a waste of oil.
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Originally Posted by LDB
The key is how you drove the 2000 miles. If the reason for the low mileage is that almost all your trips are very short, such as commuting to an office a mile or two away, where the oil seldom gets hot, then you should definitely change after a year. If the reason for low mileage is that you don’t drive it very often, but when you do drive it, you usually go far enough (several miles) for the oil to get hot, then with full synthetic you can safely and easily go two years. The reason short trips are a killer is that water vapor is a major product of combustion, and small but significant amounts of combustion products get past the piston rings into the crankcase. When the engine and oil are cold, some of that water vapor condenses into liquid water, and if the oil never gets hot enough to evaporate the water, carboxylic acids will form. The oil doesn’t have to get to 212F to boil away the water, it will evaporate away, and any carboxylic acids will decompose, if the oil gets into the 170-180F range. If you look at your instruments to see how hot you have gotten, remember that it's the oil temp that matters. Coolant temp warms up much faster than oil temp, and for this issue, coolant temp is totally irrelevant.
Everything you mentioned as causes/reasons why oil needs changed are part of the data input to the OLM algorithm. It's a far better scientific approach than miles or months ever were.

I do notice the old school guys don't change plugs every 8-10K miles, coolant twice a year, or repack wheel bearings.
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