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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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1) Is the disclaimer at startup IN ADDITION TO the inability to make changes while in motion? What's the disclaimer for then? Once you've said "Duh, OKAY, I'll keep my eyes on the road" why can't a passenger then play with the nav?
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Exactly what Honda/Acrua does.
Originally Posted by Scissors
Plenty of other manufacturers allow you to access all of the NAV's functions while moving. My Honda Accord, for example.
Did you mean that once you accept the startup disclaimer that the passenger can operate the C6's Nav system? This would make sense. But it seems that the whole thread was complaining that once you were in motion that you couldn't operate it.

Thanks in advance for the clarification!

By the way, I didn't think your posts came off as arrogant. I take it as a given that this forum is generally composed of intelligent professionals. I mean it does take a certain amount of skill and intelligence to 1) operate a PC and 2) afford a Corvette!

Can't we all just get along?

Stephen

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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Skull One
Tell that to the families that are already trying to sue drivers that were on a cell phone or watching a DVD that killed their love ones.
Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Pity or Emotion
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazerwolfe
Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Pity or Emotion
Yes, you are very correct in that fact. But it doesn't mean it is wrong to do it. Perspective sometimes is called for, not just logic.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Alx1rl
Skull... Truthfully, you came of arrogantly initially, to some including me it seemed like you were Mr.KnowItAll. You are obviously smarty enough to back yourself up and make some good points on the past two pages, i pretty much think you came around, and are just saying what you gotta say without pointing fingers. So dont sweat it, let it be...
Thank you very much for the constructive criticism. I will try to avoid that in the future. I never intended to come off arrogant, I just wanted to state the facts quickly and cleanly. I'll try for the more flowery approach next time .

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As for the safety issues and such, my simple minded theory is if its ok for others to have it, then its ok for all to have it.

If some sort of flashes are offered in the future it would be cool. i think pulling out a system out of your car is nuts unless you are electrically and mechanically inclined! Cars with alot of electrical tuning in them are dangerous to play with IMO. You never know what you can set off, nor what problems you can cause. Either go aftermarket, or leave it alone. Thas my .02.
Agree 100%.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by skfurr
Did you mean that once you accept the startup disclaimer that the passenger can operate the C6's Nav system? This would make sense. But it seems that the whole thread was complaining that once you were in motion that you couldn't operate it.

Thanks in advance for the clarification!

By the way, I didn't think your posts came off as arrogant. I take it as a given that this forum is generally composed of intelligent professionals. I mean it does take a certain amount of skill and intelligence to 1) operate a PC and 2) afford a Corvette!

Can't we all just get along?

Stephen
Yes, in the systems used by Honda/Acura and Garmin, as soon as you accept the warning message, anyone within physical reach of the screen can touch it and adjust it. And yes, I am very freaking guilty of adjusting the unit (usually volume or to tell the system to detour a section of congestion) when in motion. But searches and destination are done at a stop light or rest area.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Default Skull one: Still don't get it. :-(

Originally Posted by Skull One
Yes, in the systems used by Honda/Acura and Garmin, as soon as you accept the warning message, anyone within physical reach of the screen can touch it and adjust it. And yes, I am very freaking guilty of adjusting the unit (usually volume or to tell the system to detour a section of congestion) when in motion. But searches and destination are done at a stop light or rest area.
Me too... Love my StreetPilot III, but don't try to do a search unless I'm stopped. Too distracting. My wife can reprogram it on the fly though and I can keep my eyes on the road.

Is this how the C6 works? I seemed to get the feeling that it was different from the Garmin/Honda/Acura systems in that even after accepting the disclaimer that you couldn't select a new destination unless the car was stopped. This means the wife can't play with the Nav unit either, right?

Sorry that I'm just not getting it. I guess I should just wait until mine is ready (TPW 9/20) and see how it works.

Thanks again!

Stephen
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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To watch DVDs the trick for the SRX is hitting the sound button above the volume button I/O for 3 seconds. Then put in the code 1791 which is the code for the SRX.
Hopefully it would be this easy with the C6.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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That would be very cool to simply put in a number and it will work, cant get more easy than that ...
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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I dont know if this will help you to view movies, or if it will work with the C6 system, but it might be worth a shot. I found the post below on the XLR forum website a while back because i wondered the samething regarding movie viewing. Let me know if it works.

Watch DVD While Driving-Hack Code

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I used the same trick for the SRX hitting the sound button above the volume button I/O for 3 seconds. I put in the code 1791 which is the code for the SRX and hit enter.Hit the return button then the image button. It worked!!. Enjoy watching DVD while driving-BUT KEEP UR EYE ON THE ROAD!
Got my Video!

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Nevermind, I didn't see someone already posted above me, but i'm still interested in knowing if it works.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by John George
There is another POV possible.

These laws protect us from you.

If you want to increase the safety risk to only yourself when driving
I would not object to that. IMO, most people wouldn't.

On a public road your behavior is not private. The right to privacy that you have in your home does not apply in public. On public roads the safety of the public has precedence over the freedom of the individual.

~john
I disagree and I think you missed my point.

If the intention is to prohibit me from any distraction that may endanger the public then anything that may distract me while driving should be illegal (i.e. monitors, navs, stereos, cell phones, cigarette lighters, etc).

You could create a barrage of laws aimed at curbing every distraction known to man but you will never be able to enforce common sense. If an individual is stupid enough to actually watch a DVD while driving then no amount of laws will be able to protect the public from the full gamut of potentially stupid things this person will do in a lifetime of driving.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Black04Vert
I disagree and I think you missed my point.

If the intention is to prohibit me from any distraction that may endanger the public then anything that may distract me while driving should be illegal (i.e. monitors, navs, stereos, cell phones, cigarette lighters, etc).
I did miss some of your point.

I don't agree that it must be all or nothing. I don't have a NAV but apparently they have some built in deterrents to being used while driving. So you can have it with some restrictions in use. If you could enforce hands-free for cell phones in the same way (I'm not saying you can.) that would be a good idea IMO. Stereos often have controls that
make them easier to operate while driving, like steering wheel controls or the Corvette SCV.

My argument is that we should do all we can to encourage people to pay attention while driving.

As you say below, and I agree, "no amount of laws will be able to protect the public from the full gamut of potentially stupid things this person will do in a lifetime of driving".

Originally Posted by Black04Vert
You could create a barrage of laws aimed at curbing every distraction known to man but you will never be able to enforce common sense. If an individual is stupid enough to actually watch a DVD while driving then no amount of laws will be able to protect the public from the full gamut of potentially stupid things this person will do in a lifetime of driving.
I agree.

~john
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by skfurr
Me too... Love my StreetPilot III, but don't try to do a search unless I'm stopped. Too distracting. My wife can reprogram it on the fly though and I can keep my eyes on the road.

Is this how the C6 works? I seemed to get the feeling that it was different from the Garmin/Honda/Acura systems in that even after accepting the disclaimer that you couldn't select a new destination unless the car was stopped. This means the wife can't play with the Nav unit either, right?

Sorry that I'm just not getting it. I guess I should just wait until mine is ready (TPW 9/20) and see how it works.

Thanks again!

Stephen
While the C6 is in motion, the Nav will not let you select a destination. Most of the touch screen buttons become inoperative while moving, even after agreeing to the disclaimer at every power up. Still love the car though!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KISSfn
While the C6 is in motion, the Nav will not let you select a destination. Most of the touch screen buttons become inoperative while moving, even after agreeing to the disclaimer at every power up. Still love the car though!




Okay, now I have to agree: we need a fix or workaround for this. There is a passenger seat, and I'd like my co-pilot/navigator to be able to work the navigation system while I pay attention to driving.

This is unacceptable... especially on long trips. Many times the wife and I are driving on a trip using the Garmin SPIII and we decide that we are hungry. Quick couple of presses and new route to nearest restaurant is programmed. Now it sounds like I have to stop on the side of the Interstate (very dangerous) to have my PASSENGER figure out where we can eat.

If I had known about this limitation, I wouldn't have ordered the Navigation system. I'd have much rather had a in-dash CD changer and MP3 playback, plus $1400 in my pocket. This is !

Stephen
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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If I were a GM engineer, I would have tied the disablement feature of the pressing the buttons (destination, detour, etec) while in motion to the same signal for turning the passenger airbag on/off. Its not foolproof but it would allow the passenger to make the changes while driving. From a safety police POV, they could always say, its not our fault the driver put a 50lb weight in the passenger seat to bypass our restraints.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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On the lexus NAV:
Owners have installed a simple "cutout" switch to disable the speed sensor wire to the NAV -- zero signal equals "standing still" , thus enabling the input screens while moving. Just flip the switch when done entering NAV information and the GPS then updates the position on the fly.

On the SLK350 Mercedes (watching movies, not inputing data):
Hack on the factory/dealer service programmer allows enabling the "European" coding flag, and then allows DVD movies to be played on the NAV screen... don't know if that is even an internal coding flag on the Chevrolet at all...

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by skfurr

If I had known about this limitation, I wouldn't have ordered the Navigation system. I'd have much rather had a in-dash CD changer and MP3 playback, plus $1400 in my pocket. This is !

Stephen
For those of you still deciding, just investigate one of the less expensive, just as functional alternative, the Pioneer AVIC-N1:

(as you can see from my avatar... I'm a high-tech junkie!)

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...6_3149,00.html

http://www.avic-n1.com/

The Pioneer plays DVD movies, MP3's, XM radio-"ready", Voice command capable (mic kit), rear-view camera accessory (good for seeing the "loser" in a race!) and alot more...

Actually has "gauges" too, including G-sensors (lateral AND axial)
click here


Another aftermarket NAV/DVD/MP3 unit:
http://www.eclipse-web.com/products/avn/avn_top.htm
http://www.eclipse-web.com/products/avn/avn_top.htm

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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It was my understanding that the nav system had voice command functions. Will any of these features work with voice command rather then touch screen input?

On a side note, has anyone utilized the voice command features on their C6? How well does it work?
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