Blower cams?
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Racer
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Blower cams?
What are my options as far as lopey cams that will compliment my A&A vortech strim and longtube headers that wont negatively effect boost? What are the hot setups for centri cars?
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Check out our cam only results we just finished up on a car. This is the same cam that is in our 8 Sec. Z06
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...m-results.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...m-results.html
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St. Jude Donor '11
I'm happy with my ECS blower cam althought it's always bugged me not knowing the specs. I was also looking at the Thunder Racing blower cam when I was cam shopping. It seemed to have good specs.
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What are my options as far as lopey cams that will compliment my A&A vortech strim and longtube headers that wont negatively effect boost? What are the hot setups for centri cars?
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
BOOST DOES NOT EQUAL HORSEPOWER
Your blower moves air; it does not create boost; boost happens when you can't flow air through the engine; improving the volumetric efficiency of the engine will cause Boost to go DOWN and power to go UP.
Finally, if all you are doing this for is lope, just lower the idle; the car will lope and stumble just like a car with a big cam, and it won't cost you a thing
Burning Brakes
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No such thing as a cam that "negatively affects boost". If you put a bigger cam in your supercharged car, boost level will go down, but horsepower will rise; this is because
BOOST DOES NOT EQUAL HORSEPOWER
Your blower moves air; it does not create boost; boost happens when you can't flow air through the engine; improving the volumetric efficiency of the engine will cause Boost to go DOWN and power to go UP.
Finally, if all you are doing this for is lope, just lower the idle; the car will lope and stumble just like a car with a big cam, and it won't cost you a thing
BOOST DOES NOT EQUAL HORSEPOWER
Your blower moves air; it does not create boost; boost happens when you can't flow air through the engine; improving the volumetric efficiency of the engine will cause Boost to go DOWN and power to go UP.
Finally, if all you are doing this for is lope, just lower the idle; the car will lope and stumble just like a car with a big cam, and it won't cost you a thing
Ive always wanted a agressive idle with a blower, but ive been told not to put a big cam on a SC car. They said that they wouldn't work together well, and it wouldn't be effeincent. I really wanted to do a ECS SC 2200 kit with the Ragin Racin Striker cam (244/256 110 lsa). But have been told not to do so. Is this a good set up or not?
If it is good then im pretty much done doing my homework.
Im looking for a real bad *** muscle car sound, and i figured the Striker Cam and Bullets exhaust, headers with no cats would do the trick. Along with the ECS 2200 SC
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What are my options as far as lopey cams that will compliment my A&A vortech strim and longtube headers that wont negatively effect boost? What are the hot setups for centri cars?
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
My car is a LS2 m6
A&A Strim 3.8" pulley
Kooks 1 3/4 offroad
flowmaster catback
570rwhp, 510rwtq.
Here is a video of our Stage 5. Idle at the end of the video. That is with Stock mufflers. B&B of Corsa's make it come alive on sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nbwhEbOTeQ
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So your telling me there's a chance... I read ya
Ragin- have you had people do this type of set up before? Im really not concerned if I lose some driveabilty since this won't be my daily driver.
Ragin- have you had people do this type of set up before? Im really not concerned if I lose some driveabilty since this won't be my daily driver.
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Thats good to know Ive always wanted a agressive idle with a blower, but ive been told not to put a big cam on a SC car. They said that they wouldn't work together well, and it wouldn't be effeincent.
I really wanted to do a ECS SC 2200 kit with the Ragin Racin Striker cam (244/256 110 lsa). But have been told not to do so. Is this a good set up or not?
If it is good then im pretty much done doing my homework.
Im looking for a real bad *** muscle car sound, and i figured the Striker Cam and Bullets exhaust, headers with no cats would do the trick. Along with the ECS 2200 SC
Ive always wanted a agressive idle with a blower, but ive been told not to put a big cam on a SC car. They said that they wouldn't work together well, and it wouldn't be effeincent. I really wanted to do a ECS SC 2200 kit with the Ragin Racin Striker cam (244/256 110 lsa). But have been told not to do so. Is this a good set up or not?
If it is good then im pretty much done doing my homework.
Im looking for a real bad *** muscle car sound, and i figured the Striker Cam and Bullets exhaust, headers with no cats would do the trick. Along with the ECS 2200 SC
Ther is nothing fundamentally wrong with running a big cam in a boosted car, other than the fact that you will probably end up making too much power for your engine if the bottom end is stock.
As far as "real bad *** muscle car sound"... Ummm... You'll have to ask someone else about that; big cams just sound like what my engine sounded like when one of the cylinders was shot... I prefer an engine that runs smoothly
I will once again point out though that you can get that stalling/loping sound by simply lowering your idle; no cam needed.
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Any reason why they haven't, Any insight is greatly appreciated. Sorry rookie trying to see whats best
I really like the striker cam. Im deciding on going with a all out H/C package with alittle N20 or a SC/ cam package.
If i could do the Striker cam with the ECS 2200, Headers, bullets, no cats maybe some heads. Could you set up a package like that if possible? Let me know what you can do
I really like the striker cam. Im deciding on going with a all out H/C package with alittle N20 or a SC/ cam package.
If i could do the Striker cam with the ECS 2200, Headers, bullets, no cats maybe some heads. Could you set up a package like that if possible? Let me know what you can do
Racer
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110 LSA sounds really low for a blower set up. A&A has a nice line up of blower cams to compliment your blower. Check their website. Specs are detailed on the website as well. I stayed with a Stage 2 so I could pass the sniff test in California.
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Any reason why they haven't, Any insight is greatly appreciated. Sorry rookie trying to see whats best
I really like the striker cam. Im deciding on going with a all out H/C package with alittle N20 or a SC/ cam package.
If i could do the Striker cam with the ECS 2200, Headers, bullets, no cats maybe some heads. Could you set up a package like that if possible? Let me know what you can do
I really like the striker cam. Im deciding on going with a all out H/C package with alittle N20 or a SC/ cam package.
If i could do the Striker cam with the ECS 2200, Headers, bullets, no cats maybe some heads. Could you set up a package like that if possible? Let me know what you can do
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That cam sounds a little big for stock flat top pistons (piston to valve clearance).
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Ther is nothing fundamentally wrong with running a big cam in a boosted car, other than the fact that you will probably end up making too much power for your engine if the bottom end is stock.
As far as "real bad *** muscle car sound"... Ummm... You'll have to ask someone else about that; big cams just sound like what my engine sounded like when one of the cylinders was shot... I prefer an engine that runs smoothly I will once again point out though that you can get that stalling/loping sound by simply lowering your idle; no cam needed.
As far as "real bad *** muscle car sound"... Ummm... You'll have to ask someone else about that; big cams just sound like what my engine sounded like when one of the cylinders was shot... I prefer an engine that runs smoothly
I will once again point out though that you can get that stalling/loping sound by simply lowering your idle; no cam needed. I thought you could never have to much power
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YOU ("You" here refers to our collective group of car enthusiasts crazy enough to boost what is already one of the fastest vehicles made in this country) can never have too much power... Your ENGINE, however, can definitely make too much power; you know that point has been reached when your piston connecting rod snaps and punches through the side of the block to say "hi" to the surroundings of the engine bay. Other ways your engine has of telling you you are making too much power include, but are not limited to:Spun rod bearings (your car will sound like it is powered by Diesel)
Broken Ring Lands (car will sound like a Diesel and run like crap)
Broken valvetrain (car will sound like it is powered by nuts and bolts and stop running)
Blown head gasket (car will spew tons of smoke and stop running)
Etc... The rest of the drivetrain can also serve as an indication that your engine makes too much power: Uncontrollable wheelspin, bent driveshafts, broken output shafts, failed clutches, are all ways the driveline has of telling you that you've really put together a strong engine
