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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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The carnage started after I had layed down 900rwhp on the dynojet and went on to give my new toy beatings on the street and strip. More details on this post :
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...s-em-best.html

Frank & Lee over at the Drive Shaft Shop have been helping me with my C6Z06 YSi Project since I had decided nine second time slips were required while still rowing gears down the strip.

Consequently I have been spending hand over fist since my last track visit. Frank has been giving me a deep discount for the parts on my own car, so we have been working to together to build a "Bullet Proof" drive Line.

Since I literally split the trans and diff in half, Rodney @ RPM came to my rescue and donated some parts to keep me rolling.



I decided I would start off buying a ZR1 Case, which was not easy to get. Thanks again to Rodney.



He also knew I was running a Eaton LSD and recommended that I replace those shafts with Franks new 500M Chrome Molly output shafts.



My local trans guys Marty and Sasha helped me pioneer this bad boy, here are some pictures of the install.











And the almost finished product ...



we could not finish putting the pinion gear in because we needed a couple custom shims due to the ZR1 case change.

I also installed some other supporting mods to ensure everything is perfect.



Thanks to ECS for sending me down one of their custom Trans/Diff Braces !



More pictures soon to come !
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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id like to see a copy of that final bill!! can't hide money...
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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That's going to be a real solid setup. You can't go wrong with RPM and DSS

I have a question though, you mentioned "Franks new 500M Chrome Molly output shafts"

Was the 500 a typo and meant to be 300M, or is there actually 500M shafts now?
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by carlrx7
id like to see a copy of that final bill!! can't hide money...
Who's Hiding I still have not posted pictures of the new coil over kit or T6060.

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That's going to be a real solid setup. You can't go wrong with RPM and DSS

I have a question though, you mentioned "Franks new 500M Chrome Molly output shafts"

Was the 500 a typo and meant to be 300M, or is there actually 500M shafts now?
Check out the DSS Blog ... http://driveshaftshop.com/blog/?p=354
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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Im in the process of gather the parts I need. DSS carbon shaft ordered. the other stuff I have to get yet
quick bellhousing, rockland tr6060,ecs brace and DSS halfshafts. cant wait
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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looks good !!
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Here is a picture to show my old z06 case vs new ZR1 case side by side.



Here is everything almost ready to go in !



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Good move on franks 500m. Stock zr1 are output are...JUNK
Jeff I see tc76 billets ball bearing in my stocking! 88lbs per/min each!
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I <3 Drivetrain threads.

That is a badass setup. The pic comparing the ZR1 diff to the Z06 diff trips me out, considering the case differences between the Z06 and 06+ base diff, let alone the '05 one. Its nuts just how much more metal GM realized they needed to cast in for hardly over 50% more power than their original C6 car.

I hope it all holds up for you man. I can't see how anybod would be breaking 300M shafts to the point of necessitating 500M though to be honest. Something somewhere in there has to be giving up irrespective of metallurgy.

I run 300M in my rock rig that spins 40's, and a lot of fellow buddies run 44's and up on 300M joints/shafts behind built big blocks and turbo LSX's. Hardly ever see the 300M parts letting go even at that level.
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The ZR1 unit is nice, we run them in 24 hour applications with Franks parts and Rodney putting them together
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What do the baller Zr1 trannys go for?

Wonder what the sale value if a low milage z51 TR6060 is
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If you meant indeed meant to say Z51, then I imagine you could get your hands on one around $1800-2000, considering the Z06 T56's go for around $1400-1600. If you meant ZR1, well, just by nature of the car it's coming from I would think if one popped up here in the classifieds, it'd be offered in the low to mid $2k's range.

Somebody somewhere with enough grey hair (no offense ) to be driving around in a ZR1 probably wishes it were an Auto anyways. Anybody know of a 6L or 4L swapped ZR1 yet?
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If you meant indeed meant to say Z51, then I imagine you could get your hands on one around $1800-2000, considering the Z06 T56's go for around $1400-1600. If you meant ZR1, well, just by nature of the car it's coming from I would think if one popped up here in the classifieds, it'd be offered in the low to mid $2k's range.

Somebody somewhere with enough grey hair (no offense ) to be driving around in a ZR1 probably wishes it were an Auto anyways. Anybody know of a 6L or 4L swapped ZR1 yet?
i have a Low mileage Z51 which would be fantastic to swp out for a Zr1 tranny hence the inquary...
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
Good move on franks 500m. Stock zr1 are output are...JUNK
Jeff I see tc76 billets ball bearing in my stocking! 88lbs per/min each!
Niko ! You are one crazy **** Believe it or not, my little GTX35R turbo chargers on my C5 flow 75lb/min. Not bad for a T3/T4

Originally Posted by SlickShoes
I <3 Drivetrain threads.

That is a badass setup. The pic comparing the ZR1 diff to the Z06 diff trips me out, considering the case differences between the Z06 and 06+ base diff, let alone the '05 one. Its nuts just how much more metal GM realized they needed to cast in for hardly over 50% more power than their original C6 car.

I hope it all holds up for you man. I can't see how anybod would be breaking 300M shafts to the point of necessitating 500M though to be honest. Something somewhere in there has to be giving up irrespective of metallurgy.

I run 300M in my rock rig that spins 40's, and a lot of fellow buddies run 44's and up on 300M joints/shafts behind built big blocks and turbo LSX's. Hardly ever see the 300M parts letting go even at that level.
The ZR1 Case seems to fit the bill, but I still have my doubts it would have prevented my carnage. I know the case let go and was the weak link, in turn breaking my tranny output shaft like a twig.

I didn't have a choice on the "500m" shafts as Frank @ DSS now uses this latest material on all corvette output shafts. Rodney at RPM actually had DSS specially run these 500m shafts specifically for the Eaton HD Carrier seen above.

Bottom Line, I wanted to replace everything I could while she was apart.

Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
The ZR1 unit is nice, we run them in 24 hour applications with Franks parts and Rodney putting them together
The only thing I am actually running from a ZR1 is the case. The ring gear is a stock z06 3.42, stock z06 pinion support, and the differential carrier is made by Eaton.

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What do the baller Zr1 trannys go for?

Wonder what the sale value if a low milage z51 TR6060 is
That is actually a z06 T6060. I didn't bother to switch up to ZR1 gears as I don't plan on shifting 5th
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New Spec ST Trim and Quick Time Steel Bell Housing :

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Glad to see another guy out there running the Spec parts. I hear some stuff in the wind about the lower-priced Spec gear, but in my immediate experience, if properly installed and aligned they make for a great transfer medium. Everybody seems to be on to RPS and such, but eh...

I drive my car pretty much with the clutch, and throttle it only when I need to. It idles everywhere else. 30k miles that way on my Spec and no issues. Blown up a couple each of base and Z06 transmissions and differentials and the Spec has held up through all.

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New Spec ST Trim and Quick Time Steel Bell Housing :

It all lokks great

BTW what are you using for driveshaft couplers?
I installed that old LG solids on mine and it vibrates like hell around 1500-2800 rpm.
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Cant go wrong with the blue parts!!!
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It all lokks great

BTW what are you using for driveshaft couplers?
I installed that old LG solids on mine and it vibrates like hell around 1500-2800 rpm.
For that exact reason I put stock pucks back in. Its only 1:1 at the torque tube. I replaced the shaft because I have seen several oem shafts give out at the weld
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Originally Posted by BADZ
Cant go wrong with the blue parts!!!
I actually had a couple of problems with the first Spec PT Trim I received. First the ring gear came off the flywheel and blew my stock bell housing apart. Could have lost a leg. Spec sent me a replacement flywheel at my own expense because they had not inspected the original parts, but I needed it next day air. Thus the reason I now run a quick time bell housing in all my cars.



I then went on to push out 900rwhp and the clutch would slip on the dyno. It did seem to hold fine on the street as you can see in the pictures above. After I took it out and sent everything back to Spec, they actually took responsibility for the problem. There was a height error on the snap ring where the bearing rides the clutch fingures. They sent me a new flywheel, covered the clutch repair repair cost.
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