Power levels with E Force ?
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Power levels with E Force ?
Is anyone going fast with an E-Force and basic bolt ons and maybe a cam?
If so please post your details, Dyno numbers, parts used, etc...
Any help is much aperciated.
Thanks,
If so please post your details, Dyno numbers, parts used, etc...
Any help is much aperciated.
Thanks,
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Safety Car
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Forum member Coolhand5599 took his new 3LT F55 2011 A6 Grandsport, added headers, LG G6XB blower cam, Edelbrock #1591 kit with a 3” pulley and 65lb injectors, bolted on a set of Nitto NT05R rears and ran 10.3-10.4. I believe he was at 600-610rwhp at the time. Videos are on YouTube and timeslips are on this forum elsewhere.
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If you can search back into the 2010 timeframe when the E-Force was first released (March-April) you'll find a vendor on this forum who posted up a >600rwhp E-Force within weeks of the supercharger hitting the market.
...found it http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...633-575-a.html
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...found it http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...633-575-a.html
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Last edited by Motorhead-47; Jul 12, 2012 at 02:17 PM.
Racer
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From: Round Rock Texas
LS3 + E-force
2008 A6 vert LS3 +:
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
Le Mans Master
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From: Southeast TX
2008 A6 vert LS3 +:
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
How's the A6 holding up? Any mods to it?
Racer
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From: Round Rock Texas
LS3 + E-force
Motorhead (I hesitate to call anyone old at my age) yeah it is a fun car and I hesitate to say anything for fear of jinxing it but the A6 is doing fine on just a modified tune by Brian Reckert. We have discussed several things but no harder than I drive the car (I'll roll into it if I get challenged and have the room but that has been few and far between) we have just decided to wait until something breaks. It is tuned down ( Brian said it had plenty more in it) for fear of going 'over-the-limit', plus I really do not need anymore. My health has started to fail and my bucket list was very short: 750 hp. Brian estimates it to be right around 800 at the crank so I figure that will have to do for this lifetime (if I had it all to do over again, I would not change a thing). I've been waiting to do a writeup on the car since we really only started last November. Looks like a new GS with ZR1 rims but that is where it stops. Interior is Apsis leather wrap. I plan to do the write up soon with pics (they were just taken Monday). Sorry to get off topic.
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Melting Slicks
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From: KY/TN
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16
Edelbrock just started shipping a crate engine LS3 E-Force making 720 HP & 695 TQ
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...niversal.shtml
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...niversal.shtml
Safety Car
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Edelbrock just started shipping a crate engine LS3 E-Force making 720 HP & 695 TQ
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...niversal.shtml
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...niversal.shtml
Melting Slicks
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From: KY/TN
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16
Racer
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From: Round Rock Texas
LS3 + E-force
MH-47- I actually picked up quite a lot lurking around your posts and threads leading up to my build. You sound to be a really good meechanic and tuner in your own right.
Old-MH- come to Austin. Lots of car shows on the weekends and cruises can be organized without much notice. Hill country cruises are great. Plus my mom (she's almost 90) lives in LaPorte. If I ever drive it down I'll contact you, but I really don't know if my car will excite you that much. Sounds like your car (I've read your profile) is set up pretty similar to mine. I apologize to the OP for highjacking the thread. I'll write mine up soon.
Old-MH- come to Austin. Lots of car shows on the weekends and cruises can be organized without much notice. Hill country cruises are great. Plus my mom (she's almost 90) lives in LaPorte. If I ever drive it down I'll contact you, but I really don't know if my car will excite you that much. Sounds like your car (I've read your profile) is set up pretty similar to mine. I apologize to the OP for highjacking the thread. I'll write mine up soon.
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From: Alliance OH
2008 A6 vert LS3 +:
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
E-force with 3" pulley;
Hennessey Performance Blower Cam (specs undisclosed by HPE);
ARLT headers and high flow cats;
ported and polished heads;
Fast 65 lb. injectors;
Kenne Bell Boosta-pump;
lifters, dual springs, hardened push-rods, rocker arms and trunions all upgraded;
651 rwhp, 625 ft.lbs. torque dynoed at RPTAustin (Reckert Performance Tuning, forum vendor) see personal CF page
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/albu...ctureid=109788
Have not been to the track, but it is very fast. The low-end torgue everyone talks about is REAL. Heck, this thing is fun even when not in boost.
Very nice results, if you ever get to a track i Would be interested in how it ran, specifically what kind of mph you could get out of it since traction is likely a big challenge and ET would be hard to use to evaluate the power unless you had some soft compound tires
Is your exhaust stock after the cats? Would love to know the cam specs as well. Congratulations on a great build.
Racer
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From: Round Rock Texas
LS3 + E-force
Very nice results, if you ever get to a track i Would be interested in how it ran, specifically what kind of mph you could get out of it since traction is likely a big challenge and ET would be hard to use to evaluate the power unless you had some soft compound tires
Is your exhaust stock after the cats? Would love to know the cam specs as well. Congratulations on a great build.
Is your exhaust stock after the cats? Would love to know the cam specs as well. Congratulations on a great build.
Someone would really have to have a feel for the thing I just do not have yet (only 1000 + Non- launch miles on the new build.
Brian locked out first so that I cannot accidently drop down into 1st if I hit it too hard at say 45 (for tranny life, knock-on-wood).Had BB Bullets but there was too much air screaming through the thing and sounded more like Boeing 747 on takeoff than a Corvette so I put the stock NPPs back on it and love it quiet (It really runs smoother between 80 and 120 MPH than most cars do at 50-70, and really feels like it runs best from 190*F-200*F coolant and trans and 220-240*F oil temps).
I have a mild to wild swich for when I get the urge but everyone who has heard it says it is the loudest Corvette they have ever heard.
I seriously doubt that, but above 2500 RPMs, it is almost scary.
There are a lot of faster and louder cars than mine but mine turned out just the way I wanted it to. Brian Reckert gets all the credit for that.
Le Mans Master
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First off, 9.3 compression is a bit low in most peoples eyes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 9.5-10.4 compression on a boosted engine. Matter of fact most of the most powerful cars on this board are 10.0 or better. So that was really kind of a nonsense statement.
As far as those crate engines go, I honestly can't wait to see what they cost and what they actual throw down on a chassis dyno. I have a pretty good feeling the horsepower to dollar value will be absolutely comical and probably in the range of what you can put a solid 1000whp engine and blower combo together for.
But oh yeah, it has a warranty!
I can't wait to see the results from these things.
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Already engine dyno verified...720 HP & 695 TQ on 91 octane
100% new...nothing is rebuilt
"Now available from Edelbrock, is a complete 416 c.i.d. supercharged, LS engine, that produces an astounding 720 horsepower and 695 ft-lbs. of torque, on 91 octane pump gas. The foundation of this engine is a brand new, GM aluminum LS3 block with a forged and balanced Manley crankshaft, forged Manley H-Beam connecting rods and Manley forged aluminum pistons. The 4.0" stroke, and 4.065" bore pushes this LS3 out to a whopping 416 c.i.d., for incredible low end torque. The 9.5:1 compression ratio allows for safe and reliable supercharged performance on 91 octane pump gas."
100% new...nothing is rebuilt
"Now available from Edelbrock, is a complete 416 c.i.d. supercharged, LS engine, that produces an astounding 720 horsepower and 695 ft-lbs. of torque, on 91 octane pump gas. The foundation of this engine is a brand new, GM aluminum LS3 block with a forged and balanced Manley crankshaft, forged Manley H-Beam connecting rods and Manley forged aluminum pistons. The 4.0" stroke, and 4.065" bore pushes this LS3 out to a whopping 416 c.i.d., for incredible low end torque. The 9.5:1 compression ratio allows for safe and reliable supercharged performance on 91 octane pump gas."
Le Mans Master
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From: Montreal
St. Jude Donor '13
I'm making 619 rwhp with an eforce with a stock cam on an LS2. I've only managed an 11.2 at the track but I am still sorting out some shift issues and was hitting the rev limiter on 2 shifts. Also running stock converter.
I've only done about 10 runs with the car and really built it for fun on the streets, but the potential is there to be pretty quick.
Pro
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From: Kalamazoo MI
I kinda stepped back from this thread when I saw E Force and Fast in the same sentence because that alone was to funny to me. But I'm going to chime in now.
First off, 9.3 compression is a bit low in most peoples eyes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 9.5-10.4 compression on a boosted engine. Matter of fact most of the most powerful cars on this board are 10.0 or better. So that was really kind of a nonsense statement.
As far as those crate engines go, I honestly can't wait to see what they cost and what they actual throw down on a chassis dyno. I have a pretty good feeling the horsepower to dollar value will be absolutely comical and probably in the range of what you can put a solid 1000whp engine and blower combo together for.
But oh yeah, it has a warranty!
I can't wait to see the results from these things.
First off, 9.3 compression is a bit low in most peoples eyes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 9.5-10.4 compression on a boosted engine. Matter of fact most of the most powerful cars on this board are 10.0 or better. So that was really kind of a nonsense statement.
As far as those crate engines go, I honestly can't wait to see what they cost and what they actual throw down on a chassis dyno. I have a pretty good feeling the horsepower to dollar value will be absolutely comical and probably in the range of what you can put a solid 1000whp engine and blower combo together for.
But oh yeah, it has a warranty!
I can't wait to see the results from these things.
Why are you always a pessimist?
Things are not always black and white, the eforce is taking the best from both types of induction (centri and roots), now that have that working and its working well, they have now stepped it up to the next level. I dont see any Centri builds out there that come in a crate package.
Hey Coach, the smaller pulley (3.25") is working out great, just having to retune with HPTuners for the additional airflow, kudos to MH-47 for all the help he has done for me in the past
Last edited by mrgillies; Jul 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM.