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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Are we now proving that in the corvette world there are more dyno Queens than fast cars, 1500 rwhp cars going 12"s. I always believed in having enough RWHP to use it when necessary but here its an embrasement having my friends telling me they beatup on 1500rwhp TT vettes with their 800hp GTR
I now have to believe them because they even lead me to the videos.

I told them they did ran against some Dyno Queens and although the cars might be fast, the drivers need drivers modification. Anyone with money can build a Dyno Queen, but few can be a real driver.

I am sure the vete that went 10.85 is a proud owner/driver, he spent less on his car, don't make the rediculous big dyno numbers but put what he had to the ground and beat a 1500 dyno queen.:rock
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I ran my car off the gates, approx 800whp for your information.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Its kinda funny how some call other peps cars dyno queens. Think about this for a moment. In my cause I designed and built what I like to believe one if the nicest turbo kit out there. What did you design and build? Also just because my car has Dynoed big numbers that doesn't that its always at that leave of HP. That's what is so nice about turbo systems and EBC. its funny I get asked alot "how do you drive a car that makes 1500 HP? Simple I say "never turned the boost level that high" now when I get my 4l80e then we will see.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Actually, that was another customer's car that is my car's almost-twin. Mine was still getting the LG drag spindles installed.
i thought it was yours.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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I'm not sure who wrote the post about the whole dyno queen thing but unless you were there which I'm sure you weren't then I'm guessing you're not familiar with what was going on there. First off Seth put together a good event with a lot of big power cars. Best thing about this event was getting people together to raise money for the victims of Sandy. Everyone knew yesterday wasn't the day to get any kind of record numbers being it was way to cold, zero prep, and the sun wasn't even out but everyone wanted to go out, raise some money and just have some fun. Whether it was a big power porsche, trans am or the vette you're refering to as a "dyno queen" anything that was rear wheel drive with over 600 hp and a manual was having issues. Not only issues getting out of the hole but the whole track. There's no reason to rag on some one who brings their car to the track to have a little fun. The car is set up as a mile car otherwise it'd have an auto in it. Sure, there are 6 speeds pulling decent times but they set their car up and they have a ton of seat time to achieve these times. This is a car that produces a massive amount of power that gets driven weekly hundreds of miles with all the stock amenities. The car is a work of art, not a quarter mile machine. It's getting a 4l80e, not for the purpose of being a track car but it will help it in getting the power to the ground.
Thanks again to Seth for setting this up, I look forward to the Pocono's.
And a lot of props to the big power GTR's, I was incredibly impressed with what they can do!
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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why are they roll racing at the track. whats the point. no time slip or trap speed. not trying to be a smart a## just asking .btw nice vid
A lot of the guys would roll out together and run side by side. Give the street racing feeling and takes out some of the driver advantage to really compare cars rather than driver. Plus racing 2wd vs awd it helped even up the stakes a bit.
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All I did was embed a video posted by 1swtride. That's it, didn't know if he knew how to embed a video since CF is different so all I was doing is reposting for him. Nothing personal, so that's it.

If you want a 6 speed driving lesson in the 1/4 launching in a vette(not you 60-130 stuff)let me know since I have videos on it. Otherwise, I was just trying to post a video for you do Nick.
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Originally Posted by SpeedyD
I'm not sure who wrote the post about the whole dyno queen thing but unless you were there which I'm sure you weren't then I'm guessing you're not familiar with what was going on there. First off Seth put together a good event with a lot of big power cars. Best thing about this event was getting people together to raise money for the victims of Sandy. Everyone knew yesterday wasn't the day to get any kind of record numbers being it was way to cold, zero prep, and the sun wasn't even out but everyone wanted to go out, raise some money and just have some fun. Whether it was a big power porsche, trans am or the vette you're refering to as a "dyno queen" anything that was rear wheel drive with over 600 hp and a manual was having issues. Not only issues getting out of the hole but the whole track. There's no reason to rag on some one who brings their car to the track to have a little fun. The car is set up as a mile car otherwise it'd have an auto in it. Sure, there are 6 speeds pulling decent times but they set their car up and they have a ton of seat time to achieve these times. This is a car that produces a massive amount of power that gets driven weekly hundreds of miles with all the stock amenities. The car is a work of art, not a quarter mile machine. It's getting a 4l80e, not for the purpose of being a track car but it will help it in getting the power to the ground.
Thanks again to Seth for setting this up, I look forward to the Pocono's.
And a lot of props to the big power GTR's, I was incredibly impressed with what they can do!
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Absolutely not me. I have always given praise to Nick's car and build quality. It reminds me more of the Street Kings in Texas, TI cars, Texas Mile cars. Not dyno queens by any measure, here, we find a race for these sick builds to put all that power down unlike the die hard 1/4 guys.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by winters97gt
Absolutely not me. I have always given praise to Nick's car and build quality. It reminds me more of the Street Kings in Texas, TI cars, Texas Mile cars. Not dyno queens by any measure, here, we find a race for these sick builds to put all that power down unlike the die hard 1/4 guys.
I wasn't pointing fingers as I don't know who said it so sorry if I came off as like I was pointing at you. It was a crap day for a lot of people so for them then have to come on here and read through some crap it's just sucky. It's a fun event and the main goal was to raise some money. If nothing else it made some lesser hp cars feel good about themselves as they were able to smack down on the higher hp cars! LOL! Like they say, sometimes less is better. The best hp isn't always the highest, it's what you can effectively put to the pavement.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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This thread kind of reminds me of the Centri vs Turbo thread before it got off track.

There are guys making less than 700 rwhp going low 9's@145+mph on stock 346's, full weight, all the accessories in-tact.

When I compare my car to cars like these even I start to second guess my combo and wonder why I'm not faster.

But at the end of the day it just comes down to being able to put the power down.

You can have all the power in the word, but if you can't put it down-it really doesn't matter.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 12:36 AM
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Brings to mind the great addage "Spinning ain't winning". That in mind i still am jealous of all of the big power cars and hope one day to have to worry about traction a fraction of the amount they do.
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Originally Posted by Arun@CCP
This thread kind of reminds me of the Centri vs Turbo thread before it got off track.

There are guys making less than 700 rwhp going low 9's@145+mph on stock 346's, full weight, all the accessories in-tact.

When I compare my car to cars like these even I start to second guess my combo and wonder why I'm not faster.

But at the end of the day it just comes down to being able to put the power down.

You can have all the power in the word, but if you can't put it down-it really doesn't matter.
Arun I said this before but wen I said it they said I was talking bull, they said I was only saying so because I am not making those numbers, bottom line, big HP cars are always harder to get traction on the street, hence the reason we have a motto' "while you're spinning I am winning". I call those cars, DYNO QUEENS. because when I was making 900rwhp with my C6 MN6 I had traction issue so I turned it down to 800rwhp and still wants to turn it down some more, I enjoyed that car the most while it was a stock motor making 684rwhp on 10 lbs boost with a D1SC, it even went 10.20et@139mph. Now I have a bigger motor, better heads, better clutch, bigger blower and making much more HP but can't enjoy it as I was doing before.

As they say, bigger is not always better but some just love to brag about big HP and I think its just bragging rights, hence the reason I called it as it is, a DYNO QUEEN.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 04:09 AM
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This is no sup price to me. It is not possible to hook any high TQ RWHP M6 car on non prepped drag strip or on the street. It is unfair to compare or even mention some 9 seek drag times done on best possible prepped condition. It is not possible to hook M6 in these cold non prepped conditions. So it takes ***** to go out there knowing that many people are ready to juts you and your build if you cannot run your best. So Nick and John don’t let this get to you. This was as you can expect from this trip to the track.
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Originally Posted by TRINIC5
Arun I said this before but wen I said it they said I was talking bull, they said I was only saying so because I am not making those numbers, bottom line, big HP cars are always harder to get traction on the street, hence the reason we have a motto' "while you're spinning I am winning". I call those cars, DYNO QUEENS. because when I was making 900rwhp with my C6 MN6 I had traction issue so I turned it down to 800rwhp and still wants to turn it down some more, I enjoyed that car the most while it was a stock motor making 684rwhp on 10 lbs boost with a D1SC, it even went 10.20et@139mph. Now I have a bigger motor, better heads, better clutch, bigger blower and making much more HP but can't enjoy it as I was doing before.

As they say, bigger is not always better but some just love to brag about big HP and I think its just bragging rights, hence the reason I called it as it is, a DYNO QUEEN.
I agree on spinning aint winning but because a car that isn't set up to run the quarter mile goes to the event to have fun and does crappy runs on a crappy track doesn't make it a dyno queen. Dyno queens in my book and many others are guys who just run big numbers on the dyno and do nothing else with their car. This is a driven car that is set up for the mile event. It hasn't been run at the mile event because of the rule changes that took place. On the street the car is perfectly manageable and stays straight even though it's spinning. This is a Mexico run on a 45 degree day at about 20 or 21 lbs of boost but the car was driven probably about 15 minutes prior so there was some heat in the tires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prI0IJUQxR8
It's spinning but it's straight, manageable and obviously moving out.
The track was ice with cars skating all over the place, even some of the awd cars were moving around pretty good. Maybe you can post up some vids of your runs done in similar conditions so you can show all of us how it's done?
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Originally Posted by SpeedyD
I agree on spinning aint winning but because a car that isn't set up to run the quarter mile goes to the event to have fun and does crappy runs on a crappy track doesn't make it a dyno queen. Dyno queens in my book and many others are guys who just run big numbers on the dyno and do nothing else with their car. This is a driven car that is set up for the mile event. It hasn't been run at the mile event because of the rule changes that took place. On the street the car is perfectly manageable and stays straight even though it's spinning. This is a Mexico run on a 45 degree day at about 20 or 21 lbs of boost but the car was driven probably about 15 minutes prior so there was some heat in the tires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prI0IJUQxR8
It's spinning but it's straight, manageable and obviously moving out.
The track was ice with cars skating all over the place, even some of the awd cars were moving around pretty good. Maybe you can post up some vids of your runs done in similar conditions so you can show all of us how it's done?
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I'm sure the car was moving pretty good, but how good? What's the reference point? If you are laying down that much rubber it's hard for me to believe it's doing much more than what a 800rwhp car hooking could do.
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I'm sure the car was moving pretty good, but how good? What's the reference point? If you are laying down that much rubber it's hard for me to believe it's doing much more than what a 800rwhp car hooking could do.
You'd have to ask Nick as far as that. I know the V-box tells him he's accelerating at over 1 g in similar runs. That's 25 or 30mph to 130 in 7 seconds with sloppy shifts. (It wasn't Nick driving, he was taping) The point of the vid isn't to say that the car dead hooks on the street it's to say that even on the street it stays straight and moves out pretty decent and is manageable. On the track you would expect better traction but it was a skating rink and unmanageable. It was just much to cold, too much power, and no prep. Those conditions make it impossible to hook a big hp car with rwd.
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I agree on spinning aint winning but because a car that isn't set up to run the quarter mile goes to the event to have fun and does crappy runs on a crappy track doesn't make it a dyno queen. Dyno queens in my book and many others are guys who just run big numbers on the dyno and do nothing else with their car. This is a driven car that is set up for the mile event. It hasn't been run at the mile event because of the rule changes that took place. On the street the car is perfectly manageable and stays straight even though it's spinning. This is a Mexico run on a 45 degree day at about 20 or 21 lbs of boost but the car was driven probably about 15 minutes prior so there was some heat in the tires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prI0IJUQxR8
It's spinning but it's straight, manageable and obviously moving out.
The track was ice with cars skating all over the place, even some of the awd cars were moving around pretty good. Maybe you can post up some vids of your runs done in similar conditions so you can show all of us how it's done?
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Are you a cheerleader for Nick? Anything within poles looks fast and any 600rwhp car can do what that car just did on this video, so I would be ashame to brag that my car is making 1500rwhp and runs like a 600rwhp car.
My point is to prove my statement when they came here and said I am just talking because I am not making those numbers, I TURNED my power down so I can get it to hook on the street, 800rwhp on a MN6 is still a little too much but I am getting it to hook better than 900rwhp on a good day on the street, anything more than that on a street car or a MN6 is just for bragging rights, its like a dick measurement contest.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyD
You'd have to ask Nick as far as that. I know the V-box tells him he's accelerating at over 1 g in similar runs. That's 25 or 30mph to 130 in 7 seconds with sloppy shifts. (It wasn't Nick driving, he was taping) The point of the vid isn't to say that the car dead hooks on the street it's to say that even on the street it stays straight and moves out pretty decent and is manageable. On the track you would expect better traction but it was a skating rink and unmanageable. It was just much to cold, too much power, and no prep. Those conditions make it impossible to hook a big hp car with rwd.
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I'm trying to be a smart a$$ but I just checked some of my street logs,My old setup while tuning I was doing 24-133 mph in 7.1 sec in my 347 novi setup on 15psi novi 2200 in dec last year.My car made barely made 700 with my filter on.Now with my new setup and tires it's a lot faster on street and track.
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Say what you want about dyno queens ect the fact is there was zero prep track...that's a fact. It sucks that Etown didn't even give a dam and actually made up excuses to end the day early. I ran my car on the gates only and and still zero traction so it wasn't in "queen" mode.
I've gotten better traction the street with my 15s! I was able to drive it around and put heat in the tires. At the event we were not aloud to do burnout on the roll runs. I've pulled 4.3 on the street and best that day was 5.8
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