3rd gear issues
And there have been plenty of gear grinding issues in trashed trannies that arise from missed shifts and poorly maintained clutch fluid.
90+% of 2-3 missed shifts result from driver issues. Some owners hate to hear that but it's true.
Think Tiger Woods practices putting? Think he reviews his grip when his putting is off?
So it seem pretty silly to me that owners refrain from practicing shifting and reexamining their hand position.
To me the best solutions are those found without a visit to the dealer.
Ranger
THANK You again. I will let you know how I make out.
I have LG headers & a Textralia clutch/flywheel from LG. I do not like the Textralia because of the chatter .
Thanks for the help.
My GM service dept also said the gears would grind.
How would you beef up the linkage?
I am going to try what Ranger said. It must be my way of shifting is the problem.
I would suggest that a larger diameter rod would be more rigid, and less apt to twist and bend under hard shifting conditions. Perhaps one of the aftermarket shifter manufacturers will jump on this and start offering a stiffer shift rod.
In the meanwhile, you could have a shop custom fabricate a larger diameter rod. Remember that stiffness is primarily a function of moment of inertia, larger diameter has a greater effect than material properties. In other words, a 6 inch diameter wooden log is stiffer than a half inch steel bar, not because wood is a stronger material, but because the log has a larger moment of inertia due to its diameter.
A hollow rod will be almost as stiff as a solid one, and much lighter. Making the shift rod twice the diameter will make it about 4 times as stiff, and if it is hollow, it can even weigh less than the original rod.
PS, I agree with Ranger that you can learn to shift around this, but actually fixing the problem would be even better.
Last edited by shopdog; Jul 8, 2006 at 10:31 PM.
I would suggest that a larger diameter rod would be more rigid, and less apt to twist and bend under hard shifting conditions. Perhaps one of the aftermarket shifter manufacturers will jump on this and start offering a stiffer shift rod.
In the meanwhile, you could have a shop custom fabricate a larger diameter rod. Remember that stiffness is primarily a function of moment of inertia, larger diameter has a greater effect than material properties. In other words, a 6 inch diameter wooden log is stiffer than a half inch steel bar, not because wood is a stronger material, but because the log has a larger moment of inertia due to its diameter.
A hollow rod will be almost as stiff as a solid one, and much lighter. Making the shift rod twice the diameter will make it about 4 times as stiff, and if it is hollow, it can even weigh less than the original rod.
PS, I agree with Ranger that you can learn to shift around this, but actually fixing the problem would be even better.
Gary
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...p?p=1555942210
I went from missing 3rd 20% of the time to not missing it at all and reaching the finals of our Corvette Challenge all from practicing. More details in the post above.
I recommend you follow Ranger's recommendation to practice. It sure worked for me. And it was a great Free mod!
Gary
I don't really have a basis to comment. Shopdog is describing issues he see with the design of the shift linkage in a C5/C6.
What I do know is this.
(1) I've never personally met a C5/C6 owner who was having 2-3 missed shift that weren't cured by resolving hand position on the shifter issues. I exclude from this guys whom I'd met too late and had already trashed their trannies.
(2) My C5s and C6 have always shifted fabulously well. I followed the shifting techniques and drills I've outlined here, taken care of the clutch fluid and never sensed any issue with the linkage whatsoever.
I acknowledge that a few members swear their trannies won't engage 3d but get neutral instead. I must admit that I've only read about and never met one. I'd like to, though. Just to see for myself if the root cause is the owner or the tranny (incl ShopDog's linkage design issue).
Ranger
Gary
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I hate to have this be my first post but it is... No matter, this car is so much better than my c5 it isn't funny and I thought that was (is) a great car!!!
Customer Satisfaction - Engine Flywheel/Clutch Interference #06523C - (05/02/2006)
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Condition
Certain 2006 Chevrolet Corvette model vehicles equipped with 6.0L V8 (RPO LS2 - VIN U) or 7.0L V8 (RPO LS7 - VIN E) engine and manual transmission may have a condition in which the flywheel may have been incorrectly machined, resulting in insufficient clearance for clutch cover self adjustment, reducing clutch life.
This program will expire on March 31, 2007.
Involved are certain 2006 Chevrolet Corvette model vehicles equipped with 6.0L V8 (RPO LS2 - VIN U) or 7.0L V8 (RPO LS7 - VIN E) engine and manual transmission and built within these VIN breakpoints:
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2006 Chevrolet Corvette 65115878 65121354
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12571611 Flywheel, Eng 1
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Bad Flywheel/Clutch Plate Assembly w/shallow rim step to left of bolt/locating pin machined pad.
Ranger
Gary
If you use Ranger's advise it will work!!
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