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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Welcome2try wanted a FAST manifold installed on his car and I volunteered to install one as a friend for free. He is one of those people you want to do such things for since he is the first to volunteer to help you.

As some of you recall from my previous post on the topic, the install was to involve all the areas of complaints associated with the FAST manifold and solve the problems so that the manifold can be installed with no modification to the firewall. The following areas were addressed since they were the most common complaints:

1- You had to cut the firewall and purchase some type of covering for the hole you make.

2- The MAP sensor had to be relocated to the back of the manifold and needed a 50 dollar extension wire to be able to make the electrical connection.

3- Many people didnt like the color of the manifold wanting a more stock look.

4- There were many complaints about previous models that leaked. While I have never seen one leak, apparently it had been an issue in the past.

5- The cost for porting the model, while not included on any intake was too expensive for many.

Cameron bought a FAST and had it sent to me for all of the above issues to be fixed. Total work time for the mods were about 4 hours including a mild port. The manifold was to be used with his stock heads which I wasnt able to convince him to swap out at this time. Porting an intake manifold includes port matching the opening of the manifold to match the shape and size of the intake runners on the heads they are being used with. Since this FAST was being used with his stock unported heads there was little porting needed and doesnt make any sense to pay serious money to have it ported especially if one day you were going to install heads with bigger intake runners and need it ported again.

This first 2 pictures are of the top of the manifold and as you can see Cameron wanted a gloss paint used so it always appeared clean and armoralled:



In this next one the back of the manifold was cut and a patch peice was attached using a plastic adhesive (GOOP sourced from home depot). In addition, the brake vacuum hose inlet was relocated and replaced with a brass fitting so it would fit. The manifold isnt resealed at this point and the top part is simply lying on the bottom shell to see how it looks.

Here is the cut" to the top half: the loop has the lip that seals to the bottom half still intact.


and from the bottom:


The orange you see in the seems is the original RTV silicone gasket which was resealed carefully upon reassembly:


This is the new home for the MAP sensor. The first picture is the outside showing the location which doesn't interfere with anything and the stock wire is plenty long. The second picture shows the inside of the manifold where the MAP takes its reading from. It isnt in the runner and it isnt over the throttle body where I beleive FAST recomends. Its very hidden and stock looking.


This is the manifold installed on the motor. It required LS1 o-rings to let the injectors fit the FAST. It also required oversized washers for holding down the fuel rail. Note the fuel rail covers fit fine after a slight reshaping with a dremel and 3 minutes time. The rumor that the fuel rail covers wont fit is a myth.


and overhead....


You can of course paint the cover any color you want. Semi gloss black looks the best but flat/matte black would simulate 100% stock.
In person the manifold looks like it has been armoralled. The flash of the camera seems to over-emphasize the shine.

The car is now able to break the tires loose on a simple roll in of the throttle where before it couldnt do it at all. The car was getting squirily while testing and the tune isnt done since it needs a wideband bung welded on. Once fully tuned I'm sure it will be an even better gain. I felt the FAST added more that the headers did, but they add power in different amounts at different rpm's.

The total cost of all of the above was less than 60 bucks in parts including the 0-rings. I tried to get the tune better but I hadnt told Cameron that I had a tragic loss just prior to the start of all this work. I didnt want to spoil his day but I will be out of commision for a while. I'm sorry if I wasnt my usual self joking around Cameron.

Cameron, drive safe and enjoy the car. Pay it forward and thanks for all the meals and the friendship. You Hoffie, Joel, and the rest of the Bellmore crew and a great bunch of guys. Hoffie gave me tires, you got a manifold, so just keep the wave going.

Thanks everyone for reading al this.

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Ok. I've been fighting the FAST for a long time. After long last you finally convinced me. I'm saving my nickels. Thanks very much for the time to write up and show us these pics.

Need a Florida vacation?

My sincere condolences on your loss.

Joe

p.s. now that I think of it...why didn't you post this before I went and put a cam in? I didn't realize it was that easy. I could have perhaps put a hurt on Dennis' 11.62 bolt on record run if I had the FAST!

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Nice Work !
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Many thanks again, for all your time and help in my quest for horsepower, you weren't yourself yesterday, and I still don't know the nature of your loss, but whatever the loss, I am overwhelmed to know that you had this tragic loss, but yet decided to move forward with the install without giving the slightest inclination that there was something wrong. I am truly humbled by this experience.

Many thanks again and hope that you overcome this tragic chapter in your life. If there is anything I can do to help or need anything please don't hesistate to ask.

Cameron

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
Ok. I've been fighting the FAST for a long time. After long last you finally convinced me. I'm saving my nickels. Thanks very much for the time to write up and show us these pics.

Need a Florida vacation?

My sincere condolences on your loss.

Joe

p.s. now that I think of it...why didn't you post this before I went and put a cam in? I didn't realize it was that easy. I could have perhaps put a hurt on Dennis' 11.62 bolt on record run if I had the FAST!
The Fast compliments the cam even better, my God the HP and Tq gain is ever so present. Just go and get one already..
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by welcome2try
The Fast compliments the cam even better, my God the HP and Tq gain is ever so present. Just go and get one already..
as soon as i make a new run in cool air, i will get the fast and pulley
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
as soon as i make a new run in cool air, i will get the fast and pulley
Damn you going to be real FAST for a change now..
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Spin, you are a truly amazing human. Your selflessness gives us all something to aspire to. I am sorry for your tragedy.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Looks great Spin....nice work!!!
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Cameron, congratz to You! Your car was a screamer before I can only imagine it now. Spin took good care of You I give Him I'm going to start modding my car so I can do this to You
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Great work, Spin....You are definitely one who gives of himself unselfishly, and Cameron is most deserving...I am proud to call both of you my friends.

My prayers are with you...and I am here anytime, day or night...just pick up the phone if you need anything at all.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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SPin will you offer this as a service? Can we send you are fast to modify it for a fee? Sorry for you loss
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by C6Coupe
Cameron, congratz to You! Your car was a screamer before I can only imagine it now. Spin took good care of You I give Him I'm going to start modding my car so I can do this to You
Damn Jim I am howling here..Thanks again, you need to save up for the fast, one BAD BOY MOD..

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Great work, Spin....You are definitely one who gives of himself unselfishly, and Cameron is most deserving...I am proud to call both of you my friends.

My prayers are with you...and I am here anytime, day or night...just pick up the phone if you need anything at all.
Thanks craig for your kind words, from Spin and I..You are a class act.
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will this intake (modifed like that) work with a supercharger?
i would be worried about it leaking and blowing off...
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Hey Guy,

Great write up, this makes the fast manifold mod a really good mod to do ........ Please accept my sincere condolences on your tragic loss

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Originally Posted by 99 torch red vette
will this intake (modifed like that) work with a supercharger?
i would be worried about it leaking and blowing off...
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Cameron, what's the patch on the back of the manifold made out of?

Also, is anything holding the MAP sensor in or is it a friction fit?

Thanks.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
Cameron, what's the patch on the back of the manifold made out of?

Also, is anything holding the MAP sensor in or is it a friction fit?

Thanks.
Don't really know for sure I was too excited about the install and didn't ask, but it appeared to be made of some sort of plastic or fiberglass, although I could be wrong, the glue that he used can bond metal to metal, plastic to metal has universal applications and appeared to be solid. I also didn't pay attention to the map sensor as to how it was attached. Will find out for you. But by the looks of things and how Spin works I doubt I will have any issues with his install. This man used a torque wrench to tighten all the bolts including the valley bolts underneath the intake, which no mechanic would have.

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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 99 torch red vette
will this intake (modifed like that) work with a supercharger?
i would be worried about it leaking and blowing off...
I don't see why it would blow off, or leak. That Glue that spinmonster used in modding the rear, looked like one with the manifold and the piece fabricated. He guaranteed that it would never leak.
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Originally Posted by welcome2try
Don't really know for sure I was too excited about the install and didn't ask, but it appeared to be made of some sort of plastic or fiberglass, although I could be wrong, the glue that he used can bond metal to metal, plastic to metal has universal applications and appeared to be solid. I also didn't pay attention to the map sensor as to how it was attached. Will find out for you. But by the looks of things and how Spin works I doubt I will have any issues with his install. This man used a torque wrench to tighten all the bolts including the valley bolts underneath the intake, which no mechanic would have.
Great! Appreciate that.
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