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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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The two piece design is actually beneficial...maybe MGW will offer another, much shorter shaft as an option for those who want it...it could be easily done. Maybe we'll do some pics later today....Hope you're doing well RJ...are you still overseas?

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How about a picture of this "thing". I WAS considering the MGW shifted until this was posted..
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...6&postcount=81

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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I have a bone stock C6, '07 1LT, and I have a noise (sometimes) that I can't find the source of. In the above post there is a link to the install of the MGW shifter. At the end of that install the author says as a bonus there is no more shifter rattle or noise. The noise I have, sometimes .. it doesn't happen all of the time ... sounds to me like the hard acceleration rattle that we used to get from the reverse lock-out linkage on older 'Vettes. Is this the sound he says will go away? Boy oh boy, if it is then that alone is worth the price of admittance!
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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I have a bone stock C6, '07 1LT, and I have a noise (sometimes) that I can't find the source of. In the above post there is a link to the install of the MGW shifter. At the end of that install the author says as a bonus there is no more shifter rattle or noise. The noise I have, sometimes .. it doesn't happen all of the time ... sounds to me like the hard acceleration rattle that we used to get from the reverse lock-out linkage on older 'Vettes. Is this the sound he says will go away? Boy oh boy, if it is then that alone is worth the price of admittance!
If the sound you are getting comes from the shifter under hard acceleration only, then yes it is the sound that I am refering to..."Shifter Rattle"
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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It SEEMS to be coming from that area. I guess there is no shim or o-ring "fix" for the stock shifter? I really don't need a shift kit, happy with stock (I don't race it) BUT if that is the only fix, I'd consider the kit.

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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I have a bone stock C6, '07 1LT, and I have a noise (sometimes) that I can't find the source of. In the above post there is a link to the install of the MGW shifter. At the end of that install the author says as a bonus there is no more shifter rattle or noise. The noise I have, sometimes .. it doesn't happen all of the time ... sounds to me like the hard acceleration rattle that we used to get from the reverse lock-out linkage on older 'Vettes. Is this the sound he says will go away? Boy oh boy, if it is then that alone is worth the price of admittance!
Usually the source of shifter rattle on hard acceleration is the black plastic cap that snaps onto the bottom of the shift rod. There is some tolerance between the cap and the shift rod and the vibration between the two during hard accleration results in the rattling sound. My fix was to open up the console and take the shifter out. Wiggle the black plastic cap that is attached to the bottom of the shift rod. Chances are that it will make the exact same rattling sound you hear when accelerating. Take the cap off and apply RTV on the inside of it. Then, put some silicone grease over the RTV to allow the cap to pivot freely once it's back on the shift rod.

The RTV dampens the rattling significantly. My stock shifter rattled and when I switched to the Callaway it also rattled. Did the above and now no more rattle.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dkrhardy
It SEEMS to be coming from that area. I guess there is no shim or o-ring "fix" for the stock shifter? I really don't need a shift kit, happy with stock (I don't race it) BUT if that is the only fix, I'd consider the kit.

Thanks for your fast reply, NIGHTSTALKER!
No problem. There are posts here and there about tricks to fix the stocker. My recommendation is that if you like the feel of the stock shifter, swap it out for an 08 unit. The 08 shifter is suppost to be anti-rattle, but even with that said, I've seen some 08 guys complain about the rattle too.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Can you give your perspective on these two questions I asked earlier?
1) Is this OEM version taller than MGW's other version? why? 2)Is the MGW taller than the OEM shifter that came with the car?
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Can you give your perspective on these two questions I asked earlier?
1) Is this OEM version taller than MGW's other version? why? 2)Is the MGW taller than the OEM shifter that came with the car?
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Yes the MGW OEM **** version is definitly taller than the other version and it is taller than the stock shifter. My take on why is that the OEM **** required a longer mounting pole due to its set screw location from the top of the shifter and also because the amount of the reduction in throw required the TQ acheived from the top 1/2 of the shifter to provide enough force to be able to operate. If it were shorter, it would require much more effort to operate as is the case with my t-handle which is at least 2 1/2 inches shorter than the OEM **** when mounted.

The fix is simple, get the non-OEM version with an aftermarket ****. Giving up the OEM appearance means nothing to me but if its a deal breaker for you, get a callaway. I would keep this with the overly tall appearance before going to any other shifter.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Thanks, Spin. I submitted your and my comments to George at MGW. He mentioned he will have a non OEM shift **** for us that fits on this OEM ****-compatible shifter. I was concerned when I first read your thread, that my knuckles might be "grazing" the headliner, or that I'd have to I'd have to keep the roof off so that I could reach up to shift!
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Its 18 degrees outside and I dont feel like going out to take a pic this minute but I will soon. In the meantime, the shifter kind of reminds me of a tap beer arm in a bar. I may put a Heineken top on it.

It was easy to get over the look during my drive home with it. It makes me want to drive all the time. Its that good.

I wouldnt mind getting the other shaft in the mail from George.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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I would like to keep my OEM ****, and have shorter throw. Looks like the shifter produced for the OEM ***** compromised the length accommodate BOTH 05-07 & 08 *****? Or does it have to be that long to engage enough of the OEM **** to maintain rigidity?

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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I just measured a few *****...(
It looks like the shaft depth on the stock **** is a full 3", with another inch on top of that to the top of the ****. Several of the aftermarket ***** I measured have a 2" shaft hole (plus about an inch to the top).
I think I'm going to go with the aftermarket shaft and cut (if needed) to get the length that works for me..

Georges Pic:
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Nebraska
Thanks, Spin. I submitted your and my comments to George at MGW. He mentioned he will have a non OEM shift **** for us that fits on this OEM ****-compatible shifter. I was concerned when I first read your thread, that my knuckles might be "grazing" the headliner, or that I'd have to I'd have to keep the roof off so that I could reach up to shift!
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Bah, you wouldnt hurt Spin. Yes Craig I'm still in Kuwait thanks for asking. Doing well. Callaway just sent me a new shifter to replace my other one so I guess I'll stick it out with them. But this one sounds awesome.
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Hey guys,

we had made some stock shafts for the c6 stock **** but i honestly never ran with one since i like our billet *****. i put one on our 2008 c6 z51 car today and yes it is about an 1 1/2 inches which is also about the same difference as our billet **** handle. Spin i believe was being a bit overly dramatic about the height but still 1 1/2 inches is too much
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i am making some new stock unthreaded shafts that are an inch and a half lower and problem solved. i will have them ready in a week. anybody that already got the shifter and does not like the hegiht on the stock c6 **** will be getting the new bracket free.

this only applies to the stock c6 ****. the shaft handle for the threaded shaft is just fine.

in fact it looks awesome in the new 2008 interior with the chrome bezel ring on the top of the oem boot. our gripper **** seats inside it PERFECTLY!!! look at the pic below!!!!

so in a nutshell it was basically a miscalculation on the shaft hegiht when making the oem shaft. i did not even think that the oem **** had so much area above the hole in the ****.

OUR billet ***** are threaded so close to the top of the **** that it sits alot lower.

so do not worry guys, if you want to use your stock **** and maintain the stock height i will have it all worked out by end of the week. and again anybody that received the stock **** handle last week WILL be getting a new shaft to lower it to stock height. and do not worry about the force i tried one today and it is just fine to shift.




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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Awesome product George. The click into place shifts are perfect.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MGW George
Hey guys,

we had made some stock shafts for the c6 stock **** but i honestly never ran with one since i like our billet *****. i put one on our 2008 c6 z51 car today and yes it is about an 1 1/2 inches which is also about the same difference as our billet **** handle. Spin i believe was being a bit overly dramatic about the height but still 1 1/2 inches is too much
sooo...

i am making some new stock unthreaded shafts that are an inch and a half lower and problem solved. i will have them ready in a week. anybody that already got the shifter and does not like the hegiht on the stock c6 **** will be getting the new bracket free.

this only applies to the stock c6 ****. the shaft handle for the threaded shaft is just fine.

in fact it looks awesome in the new 2008 interior with the chrome bezel ring on the top of the oem boot. our gripper **** seats inside it PERFECTLY!!! look at the pic below!!!!

so in a nutshell it was basically a miscalculation on the shaft hegiht when making the oem shaft. i did not even think that the oem **** had so much area above the hole in the ****.

OUR billet ***** are threaded so close to the top of the **** that it sits alot lower.

so do not worry guys, if you want to use your stock **** and maintain the stock height i will have it all worked out by end of the week. and again anybody that received the stock **** handle last week WILL be getting a new shaft to lower it to stock height. and do not worry about the force i tried one today and it is just fine to shift.

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Yeah, I will probably be pulling the trigger for one of these after I get my vette back from the bodyshop (I got hit while the car was parked, I know how to drive).

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Very nice George....
I'll probably be calling you Monday to place my order..
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