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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette_06
Post 10 probably explains what happened. I had this same thing happen to my black GMC truck. They tried to tell me black is black VW, Chev, Toyata, GMC black is all the same. It took me a year fighting with Allstate and dealer to get it right. Finally they agreed to let me take to someone of my choosing.

The guy nailed it first time perfect! But I had a bunch of layers from the previous idiots!

So I would recommend you demand the paint match or you tell them you want to bring it somewhere else at their expense.
They are painting the whole car now so it should match i just dont want to be able to tell that the car was ever painted
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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I did the widebody and chose an imcompetent shop the first time, buy when I got it repainted, we did the whole car too. We used chrysler metallic black instead though.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
For what its worth my car's body panels don't match 100% perfectly, and this is from the factory: under the right light you can tell that the hood is lighter than the fenders and the bumpers, and both rear fenders are slightly lighter too...
Thats because your car was totaled by a mechanic from GM that test drove it after an engine rebuild (his first) before you bought it and brought back to life by his cousin cooter in Alabama (Cooter's paint and dent shoppe) after they was done makin' some moonshine. He mixes his paint in an old milk container that they rinse out after they is done with da last car.

By the way they only had a 5.7 liter block so you have a LS1.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Actually, black is very difficult to match. Many people think black is black, but the color has to be mixed, and on the Corvette their are about 8 different colors that blend to make the black. Here is an example of what goes into Competition Grey...notice the numbers in the end column, that's how exact the weights of each color are. If the tech prepping the mix isn't careful, an extra few grams can mess up the final mixture's tint.




Each color has to be added by weight and then mixed, and an ounce too much or little can skew the color. Sometimes even putting Dupont mixes next to PPG mixes will look slightly different depending on the lighting, even though the tech's computer mix was on target. When my shop mixes any color, the mix is tested on different spots around the car and under different types of lighting and tweaked until perfect. Often you must blend and feather the surrounding areas for the eye not to perceive any slight tonality differences.

In any event, they really need to make it right. Have them examine it under direct sunlight, shade and fluorescent light. If there is any color shift, one of those conditions will enhance it. If you need a good painter in Texas, give Gerardo from DSVettes a call. Whoever does all his work is amazing.
I understand how paint is mixed because I've been in the paint/body business for years. It is certainly possible that the shop messed up the formula. They may not have used test panels. They probably didn't check to see if his VIN called for an alternate and just used the standard formula assuming the black would be close enough. The excuse that GM doesn't put enough paint on the car is BS. The factory does use water-borne basecoats, which I'm pretty sure the body shop doesn't use, but this really shouldn't be the source of the color problem. Any number of scenarios are possible. However, I stand by my statement that black is one of the easiest hues to color match. Any competent painter should be able to either tint the formula, or have the good sense to blend into surrounding panels. While I am fully aware that many things could have caused this color mis-match, a competent shop should be able to match black without much difficulty. It is certainly easier than light metallics, tri-stage pearls, or tinted clear coats. I'm not saying these colors can't be matched, they just seem to be more challenging. I also find it hard to believe the shop didn't recognize the color problem. They were probably hoping the customer wouldn't see the problem and just accept the job. At least the adjuster is trying to be helpful. Hopefully evrything will work out in the end. It would be nice after all this hassle if the shop would color sand and buff the car out for him after they are through. If this is done properly his car will have a mirror finish with no orange peel and look far better than any out of the gun finish, including the factory job.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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I'm with slvr76 on this one. Black is one of the easiest colors to match. That moronic excuse from the dealer is simply assanign. Regardless of their assumptions on how GM painted the car, the fact of the matter is that the paint they applied DOES NOT MATCH - period - end of story - repaint it.

p.s. Don't for get the door jambs and under hood.
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