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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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I agree that the starter is probably toast. That actually was good because you DO NOT want to make several attempts to start it if there is water in the conbustion chamber. Like everyone suggested, pull the plugs and try cranking it over to see if any water comes out. The penetrating oil and a day or two to dry out might just be enough. Hopefully it's not major and the shop takes care of you. Good luck.
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Is the Callaway CAI for the LS3 placed lower than the LS2? I have been caught in some very bad rain storms traveling around in Florida. The puddles were unavoidable, maybe 3 inches deep (hard to tell from the top ) I was putting up a bit of a spray even at slow speed so I imagine the air dam was under water and yet there was no water in the intake and the car was fine. (and yes I slowed down to a crawl after I saw the water spray)

I also thought that Callaway has never had an incident of a hydrolocked engine.

In any event sorry to hear about your problem, good luck
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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I was always muttering *&^*()(&&# ... 427, God Da...$#^%%$##@*.... 427 as I was going through some big puddles recently during a rainstorm with my Honker. My wife kept asking me "what?". My reply was always, " huh?---ahh nothing" Then afterward I tolf her what a 427 is.. She didnt see the humor.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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For those worried about me taking the car to a dealer for warranty work, as I stated in my second post, that isn't going to happen. My insurance company is going to cover the damage under comprehensive.
As for the speed, I was creeping at under 10mph through the puddle. I guess there was just too much water coming down and everything was already soaking wet from the drive to my office that the water got in past the air cleaner and into the motor. I don't know what the damage is, yet. The insurance adjustor will be checking out the car in a day or two. Once the damage is figured out, the shop and I will figure out what way to go...stay stock or go other. Again, depends on the extent of the damage. Tomorrow, I am driving my wife's Daytona RT to work. She doesn't want me to destroy the motor in my 86 Corvette and my 86 Monte Carlo SS wears drag radials year round (not great in the rain). After tomorrow, I'll decide whether I need to rent a car or not. I have that coverage on my insurance, so we will see. I'll give you all an update on the damage once it is torn into.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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All in all it's not a big deal... a comp claim is a non-chargable claim so it won't affect your rates. If the motor's toast they'll play to put it back to OEM condition and you can take the money and add to it and do some mods if you like
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Good news. Sounds like it's going to work out OK.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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That sucks Neil...at least my car now has a broke buddy to talk to at the shop! Hasn't rained here in what, 2 months? First my son's field trip is canceled now this.

Ahh well. I'm hoping it's small and you are back on the road. If not, get a 427 and I'll buy your heads off your car now that the new FAST is coming out very soon.
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Delete comment... should have read further about the ins. claim.
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
Is the Callaway CAI for the LS3 placed lower than the LS2? I have been caught in some very bad rain storms traveling around in Florida. The puddles were unavoidable, maybe 3 inches deep (hard to tell from the top ) I was putting up a bit of a spray even at slow speed so I imagine the air dam was under water and yet there was no water in the intake and the car was fine. (and yes I slowed down to a crawl after I saw the water spray)

I also thought that Callaway has never had an incident of a hydrolocked engine.

In any event sorry to hear about your problem, good luck
I think they are in the same place. While its more likely to happen to a front grill cai intake, I did say it was slightly possible to happen to an upper opposite side of radiator intake. I can only guess a lot of water splashed to the radiator and bounced across to the shroud filter side. I think somebody on Smokin Vettes forum had Honker hyrdolock too.

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
That sucks Neil...at least my car now has a broke buddy to talk to at the shop! Hasn't rained here in what, 2 months? First my son's field trip is canceled now this.

Ahh well. I'm hoping it's small and you are back on the road. If not, get a 427 and I'll buy your heads off your car now that the new FAST is coming out very soon.
Thanks Joe. As for the 427...we will have to wait to see how much damage there is. I don't want to have to put money into it, other than the deductible, as I just started working and have to replenish the "reserves" spent while I was out of work. But...if I can upgrade, I'll definitely look at doing so. I keep in touch with you.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by siffert
I think they are in the same place. While its more likely to happen to a front grill cai intake, I did say it was slightly possible to happen to an upper opposite side of radiator intake. I can only guess a lot of water splashed to the radiator and bounced across to the shroud filter side. I think somebody on Smokin Vettes forum had Honker hyrdolock too.
I'd really like to see the speed and puddles that these people that hyrdolock their corvettes are going through. I have a vararam, and have gone through 2-3 inches of water just fine....and driven in torrential downpours with no problems.

I came CLOSE to hyrdolocking my RX8 which had a front moint CAI filter...BUT that was because a pickup decided to cut me off and threw a ton of water on my front end. It got to the point that my car was missfiring...but I took the filter out and let it dry...no problem.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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I'm sorry about the damage to your car.

Instead of de-modding the car in an attempt to defraud the dealership and GM in order to get free warranty repairs, I suggest you man-up and be responsible for your actions. I can understand your motivation but those that commit fraud are thieves...they're stealing. Again, I sympathize with your situation. It’s your conscience (or lack thereof) but come on...do the ‘right thing.’
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
I'd really like to see the speed and puddles that these people that hyrdolock their corvettes are going through. I have a vararam, and have gone through 2-3 inches of water just fine....and driven in torrential downpours with no problems.
?? The OP said he was going less than 10mph through 6" of water.

I congradulate you on making it through 2-3" inches of water with your Vararam. Though the last time you posted about how your "Vararam Parted The Seas" it was "I have driven in 4 inches of water no problem". Now this miraculous story is down to 2 inches?

We have had other former Vararam owners chiming in with their own hydrolock misfortunes. I still believe its more likely to happen to a Vararam, but I always say it could also happen to Honkers and other radiator side intakes. If ya play, ya gotta pay. Maybe someday we'll get a real 6" water update from you. Till then...

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
I'm sorry about the damage to your car.

Instead of de-modding the car in an attempt to defraud the dealership and GM in order to get free warranty repairs, I suggest you man-up and be responsible for your actions. I can understand your motivation but those that commit fraud are thieves...they're stealing. Again, I sympathize with your situation. It’s your conscience (or lack thereof) but come on...do the ‘right thing.’
The OP said several times he isn't going to the dealership to try getting this done as warranty work.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ames
The OP said several times he isn't going to the dealership to try getting this done as warranty work.
True, he did say that after editing the post of course, this was the actual original post:
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Puddle was a little too deep for my 08. Was about 6 inches deep, but the puddle won. Motor cut right off...wouldn't start up. I took the air intake hose off and a good amount of water poured out of the TB. Called my insurance company to have it towed to my local performance shop and to place a claim. Warranty won't cover, due to Callaway Honker intake. Not even going to try...unless my insurance doesn't cover, then I guess I'll buy a new shroud and have the shop put it back to factory and pay for towing to the dealer. Not a great way to start off the day.
Those that have hydrolocked an LS motor, what type of damage is generally done? Thanks.
Again this is not to give the OP a hard time or anything, he certainly is taking the correct (legal) route...but for those all too quick to jump down the throats of others who have mentioned how fraudulent it initially appeared, please understand where it is coming from.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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People... the dealer will never ever ever ever ever ever cover hydrolock. This is a user error and has nothing to do with GM/Chevy. It doesn't matter what kind of mods you have done to the car or even if it's 100% oem stock. Your comprehensive insurance policy covers this. And a reputable quality CAI is not a problem. They cannot deny coverage because you have an aftermarket air intake on the car. From there perspective it's flood damage.
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True, he did say that after editing the post of course, this was the actual original post:Again this is not to give the OP a hard time or anything, he certainly is taking the correct (legal) route...but for those all too quick to jump down the throats of others who have mentioned how fraudulent it initially appeared, please understand where it is coming from.
More like some of the people ripping the OP were not quick enough. He edited it yesterday. If people wanted to rip the guy they should have jumped in then. The OP edited the post yesterday and has said he's doing the right thing and we still have people ripping him. If you are going to give someone suggestions and rip them then read the whole thread in it's current context.
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Originally Posted by Ames
More like some of the people ripping the OP were not quick enough. He edited it yesterday. If people wanted to rip the guy they should have jumped in then. The OP edited the post yesterday and has said he's doing the right thing and we still have people ripping him. If you are going to give someone suggestions and rip them then read the whole thread in it's current context.
Also true.
I was merely responding to those that might be responding to those of us that may've responded before the edit.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
People... the dealer will never ever ever ever ever ever cover hydrolock. This is a user error and has nothing to do with GM/Chevy. It doesn't matter what kind of mods you have done to the car or even if it's 100% oem stock. Your comprehensive insurance policy covers this. And a reputable quality CAI is not a problem. They cannot deny coverage because you have an aftermarket air intake on the car. From there perspective it's flood damage.
I agree; this is not a car manufacturer problem or responsibility. Most cars, ours included, can drive through torrential rain. What we can't drive through are certain amounts of standing, or thrown water if that "wall of water" is high enough.

I think OP is now looking at this correctly and seeking the correct solution(s) to the problem. My biggest fear is that one can't always tell just how deep the water is, esp. when it's pouring out and visibility is terrible. But worse still is if this happens at night---then it's really a gamble.
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