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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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New car to me and my first vette.06 convertible with 19k on it.What are any of you doing about service and the auto trans if any before 100k? Anyone doing just a fliud exchange only? I'm a big fan of Amsoil ATF.
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I have a manual, but changed it at 5,000 miles with Redline.

Since the real history of a used car is questionable, why not just change it.

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New car to me and my first vette.06 convertible with 19k on it.What are any of you doing about service and the auto trans if any before 100k? Anyone doing just a fliud exchange only? I'm a big fan of Amsoil ATF.
Congrats on your first Vette!

FYI, for your 06 auto AMSOIL recommends their low viscosity ATF which is their version of Dexron VI:
AMSOIL Low Viscosity Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATL) (Product Code ATLQT)

I'm more than happy to get this for you at dealer cost, about 25% below retail via the AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program if you decide to go with AMSOIL.
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Congrats on your first Vette!

FYI, for your 06 auto AMSOIL recommends their low viscosity ATF which is their version of Dexron VI:
AMSOIL Low Viscosity Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATL) (Product Code ATLQT)

I'm more than happy to get this for you at dealer cost, about 25% below retail via the AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program if you decide to go with AMSOIL.
Hey Sub, good to see you back on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Subdriver
Congrats on your first Vette!

FYI, for your 06 auto AMSOIL recommends their low viscosity ATF which is their version of Dexron VI:
AMSOIL Low Viscosity Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATL) (Product Code ATLQT)

I'm more than happy to get this for you at dealer cost, about 25% below retail via the AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program if you decide to go with AMSOIL.

one more thing if under 50,000 miles change it. NOW
most who wait for 100,000 have problems and need a rebuild
as the new fluid cleans things up.
if you change before 50,000 it doesn't seem to do that
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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2008 just hit 30,000 and is about to have filter changed and Amsoil put back in.
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I don't want to drain out a few quarts with filter and mix Amsoil with the factory fill.Was wanting to use a BG fliud exchange machine and remove,replace all the fliud.I'm a preferred Amsoil customer.Been using the stuff for years in everything I have. Any of you all done this and is any different the doing a regular car? The Amsoil site says the factory fill is the LOW VISCOSITY FLIUD and to do a total exchange 14 quarts is needed.

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I would change the diff fluid at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Ketchum
I don't want to drain out a few quarts with filter and mix Amsoil with the factory fill.Was wanting to use a BG fliud exchange machine and remove,replace all the fliud.I'm a preferred Amsoil customer.Been using the stuff for years in everything I have. Any of you all done this and is any different the doing a regular car? The Amsoil site says the factory fill is the LOW VISCOSITY FLIUD and to do a total exchange 14 quarts is needed.
Transmission flush implies all of transmission fluid will be replaced when in fact maybe half of it is. As they pump the new fluid in, it immediately mixes with the fluid in the sump where the transmission pump picks it up and pumps it right back out with the old fluid. In addition, there is only a small amount of old fluid in the torque converter that gets replaced and there is fluid in the servos, pistons, etc for the different gears that can not be replaced with a flush. The end result is you end up with about a 50/50 mix of old/new fluid...about the same thing that happens if you were to drop the pan for a fluid/filter change except you didn't get the filter changed and you paid for twice as much oil as was actually replaced. To me, that's like changing the engine oil without changing the oil filter...you basically paid more for less.

One more thing (which doesn't apply to your '06 with the older warranty), the Amsoil ATL is not on GM's list of licensed Dexron VI suppliers and is not held to the full Dexron VI specifications.

http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?...jWBJgkeXPekw--

Using Amsoil ATL in your '07-'11 Corvette A6 will void your warranty with GM leaving Amsoil as your only recourse to pay for repairs. Amsoil may say it meets the specs but it is not licensed by GM and GM is the one that determines warranty repairs. Nothing against Amsoil but you need to know what you're getting into before you roll the dice...kind of like getting your engine "tuned" which we all know GM says "tough luck" if something happens to any part of your powertrain. Caveat Emptor!
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Hey Sub, good to see you back on the forums. Question. On his 06, shouldn't he use the ATF vice the ATL? I know ATL is supposed to be backward compatible but his 06 used DEX III so thinking the ATF would be better?????????
The '06 used Dexron VI....you're probably thinking the '05.
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Sorry to get long winded but I retired in 2003 from the auto repair field.I did several different jobs in auto dealers including service manger etc.over 30 odd years.I have handed and sold literally several thousand trans fliud exchanges using BG exchange machines on many different brands of autos and trucks.I bet the transfer is a lot more then half.Mail carrier Jeep Cherokees with the AW4 trans had a drain plug and a permanent filter.When drained you got almost 5 qts out.Black as tar ATF.You could add new atf(5qts) and it would not change the color of that black as tar ATF at all.We could hook up a fliud exchange machine.Put jeep in low gear,wheels raised and exchange in 17 qts of new ATF.Get done,test drive,pull dipstick and the fliud LOOKED as fresh as out of a can.Mail carriers stopped accusing us of NOT draining their fliud after that.Plus the units shifted incredibly better.Only service on a trans I had customers comment about units shifting better and torque converter shudder being gone.Fleet trans failures dropped significantly.As far as Amsoil ATF not being certified it is a more superior product over the off the shelf stuff.Amsoil just didn't fork out big coins for the certification.neither has Redline and a few other boutique oil manufactures. Unless things have changed I never and I mean never had GM,Chrysler,Nissan or Mazda ask about WHO"S fliud was in a failed trans, differential or engine for that matter.Only IF the unit had been serviced as per the owners manual.
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Originally Posted by Ketchum
New car to me and my first vette.06 convertible with 19k on it.What are any of you doing about service and the auto trans if any before 100k? Anyone doing just a fliud exchange only? I'm a big fan of Amsoil ATF.
Once a year or every 40,000 miles I change ALL fluids. For the auto trans I drop the pan, clean it, install new filter & check gasket, bolt pan back up, and refill. You may not need to do that, but it is a cheap peace of mind for me. My vet is an 07 A6 Z51 with over 105,000 miles on it. I hope this help you.
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Any issues in that mileage? How many miles are you getting out of tires?
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The '06 used Dexron VI....you're probably thinking the '05.
My bad. You are absolutely correct.
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Originally Posted by timd38
I have a manual, but changed it at 5,000 miles with Redline.

Since the real history of a used car is questionable, why not just change it.
.....assume the car was neglected across the board.

I just worked on a car in which the owner was using low octane fuel the whole time. If a guy is that much of a cheapskate to want to save 3 bucks at a fill-up, he definitely dint keep up with fluids.
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Any issues in that mileage? How many miles are you getting out of tires?
No Sir, the A6 is performing well with no problems. As for the tires I do not remember.
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I guess what I need to know is if hooking up a BG machine to a Vette where do you plug in? I did see a ad on here somewhere a shop advertising trans fliud service with a BG machine.I may need to find that ad and call them.Shop near me with hook up and use my fliud for $35 bucks if not to difficult.I had used them in the past on other vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Ketchum
I guess what I need to know is if hooking up a BG machine to a Vette where do you plug in? I did see a ad on here somewhere a shop advertising trans fliud service with a BG machine.I may need to find that ad and call them.Shop near me with hook up and use my fliud for $35 bucks if not to difficult.I had used them in the past on other vehicles.
It likely plugs into one of the lines either back by the trans or maybe even up by the radiator (where the cooler is) I would assume.
But if you go that route, what about the filter and any potential particles still at the bottom of the pan?
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Usually what I do on low mileage vehicles going to Amsoil I do the exchange.Anything in the filter or pan stays there as the exchange is using the vehicles own power to exchange the fliud,There is no back flush or even a flush.Its done by the vehicles own trans pumping.Then in about 3k to 5k I do a pan drop and filter using more Amsoil ATF.In fact I have done it this way in the past not even using Amsoil fliud.If high mileage I do the whole thing at same time.You waste several qts of fliud as you do pan/filter top off using up to 6 qts of atf and then hook up exchange machine with another 17 qts of fliud.
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With only 19K on the car, it's real unlikely to have any problems caused by fluid issues. With no service documentation, my opinion would be to just change the oil/filter and nothing else. Given that GM only recently extended their warranties to 100K doesn't mean that the cars suddenly got a lot better, but that they had faith in what they were producing.

Thousands upon thousands of the cars will never have the A6 fluid changed prior to the factory service suggestions, without failures. By far, many of those may go twice the miles or even never and still survive, if they are not driven abusively.

I personally fully (12.75 qt) changed mine at 71K, due to putting in a high stall converter to improve my times at the drags. I doubt the A6 gets more abuse than racing and also that any particular brand of proper fluid will cause the transmission to fail.

If fear of the unknown is the reason to change the fluid, then you should never buy a used car. If you do change it, do it 3 or more times in the next 1000 miles to get a much higher percentage of that nasty old fluid removed. Consider draining/flushing/changing the power steering, windshield washer, coolant, differential, and brake fluids too.
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