C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

FireCore 50 Ignition Wires :thumbs:

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 27, 2011 | 11:31 PM
  #1  
trayack's Avatar
trayack
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 61
From: Nantucket MA
Default FireCore 50 Ignition Wires :thumbs:

So there was some duscussion about this brand of wires over on the YellowBullet. (Drag racing site for those that aren't familiar with it)

FireCore makes the wires for Top Fuel, Funny Car, and Prostock teams. There have been some interesting claims made about their performance so I figured I'd give them a shot. I didn't expect anything to be honest with you as they are such a short run to the plugs. I did expect a good quality wire though. The cost of the wire set was $115, and they arrived in 3 days which is impressive for where I live.

I was very impressed with the construction of these wires. They are 8.5 ml's thick and about 10 inches long. They use the factory style boots that accept the metal heat sheilds. Fitment is great as they use a 135 degree boot instead of the factory 90 degree.



So...here's the best part. Like I said I didn't expect anything to change as I was replacing a factory set of wires that had less than 300 miles on them. Boy was I wrong!

On first start up I noticed a smoother idle (I have a mild cam+P1SC making just over 600rwhp). When I took it for a cruise I noticed that the car just seemed to run smoother, and the little bucks and skips that were there because of the cam were either gone, or greatly reduced. Gone is the exhaust backfires (burbles) on decel although I sorta enjoyed them. Full throttle is nice and smooth too. Not sure if I picked up anymore power (only beat on it once) but I'll just have to see.

To remove the plecebo effect I told my father to take the car out to a cruise night tonight. He drives the car regularly so he knows it well. Half way though the ride he calls me on my cell. He goes "What the hell did you do to this thing now?!" He informs me that its super smooth now and HE noticed a boost in performance not to mention normal driving. He actually asked if I retuned without telling him.

So, all in all.....I can't say enough about these wires. Great product, and the owner is super super nice. Look em up...order a set for yourself!

- Travis
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 07:33 AM
  #2  
Gering's Avatar
Gering
Tolero Apto Victum
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 9,669
Likes: 37
From: Woodlands TX
Default

Good write up, thanks. Have you used www.briskusa.com spark plugs before?
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 11:34 AM
  #3  
trayack's Avatar
trayack
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 61
From: Nantucket MA
Default

I have not...might have to give them a shot at some point.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 01:57 PM
  #4  
Ragtop 99's Avatar
Ragtop 99
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,537
Likes: 1,403
From: Bethesda MD
Default

That seems like a lot from a wire switch.
Maybe one of the factory wires wasn't fully seated on the plug? I had one like that. Not enough to throw a code, but when I got it to crimp tightly on the plug, it was a noticeable improvement in idle quality.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 03:25 PM
  #5  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

I ALSO find it difficult to believe that you found any increase or additional power or performance from a wire swap. The stock GM Performance RED wires are an up grade but only for Wire QUALITY. They are excellent quality wires and fit perfectly and are more durable than the origional OEM wires.

If one of more of your wires were bad or not properly connected, I would agree, new properly fitting and properly connected wires would make a difference.

Its been tested time and time again and several people have done back to back dyno test on high dollar plugs and wires and found ZERO/NADA NILCH/NO hp/tq improvements over the STOCK Stuff.

BC
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 04:16 PM
  #6  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Just like the Nology Spark Plug Wires (VERY EXPENSIVE WIRES) and PULSAR Sparkplugs (VERY EXPENSIVE PLUGS) ,,, They have been tested and prove no real gains

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ark-plugs.html

If these plugs and wires were really what they say they were,,, why wouldn’t FORD, CHRYSLER, GM, TOYOTA, HONDA, etc.... incorporate them for the HP/ECONOMEY GAINS??????

I would be willing to bet a pay check that; Any engine engineer would give blood and body parts for a bolt on/plug in on 10-15 HP...

So,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Have you seen them on any OEM Stock Vehicles????

Some of the FAMOUS platforms that you see running them do so for the CASH from advertisement. If I was a famous race car driver and you were giving me $50,000 for me to run and sponsor your product, do you think I would say that they didn’t work???

SO,,, Why doesnt someone get one of those wires and cut the bastard open and lets see the MAGIC that makes them BETTER than everything else

BC
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:00 PM
  #7  
99blancoss's Avatar
099blancoss
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 2
From: Portland OR
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
Default

I have to agree with Bill. Its an 8" long wire.. your not going to see any difference at all UNLESS you have an existing bad wire. Its amazing what gets pushed.. I offer MSD and wont ever try and say they make more power.. they are a better quality due to the components used is what I say and they have excellent heat protection and are a great choice when doing long tubes.. BUT its an 8" long wire.. maybe there is some loss sustained after it heats up.. that is the popular craze now... heat protection and we offer a 1200* heat sleeving on our MSD's now as well as the cool socks option.. and in turbo and s/c applications that are a good idea.. BUT again unless you have a bad wire your not seeing a power increase by swapping an 8" wire out for a more expensive magic one
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2011 | 03:28 PM
  #8  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

100%

Purchase wires for QUALITY CONSTRUCTION and proper fit and function,,, NOT HP HYPE.

BC
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 31, 2011 | 02:49 AM
  #9  
trayack's Avatar
trayack
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 61
From: Nantucket MA
Default

Rather than start an internet fight I'll keep it simple. My OEM wires were just fine and installed correctly. The FireCore wires DID make a diff in idle and cruise quality ON MY CAR.

OEM will use the bare minumim to get by as a result of cost, thats why we mod our cars.

Bottom line, use what ever you want. I was just offering up my experience with another option that most, if not all of you haven't heard of yet. If you're in the market for a new set of wires, maybe give these a shot....if not, no worries.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2011 | 03:03 AM
  #10  
TommyV's Avatar
TommyV
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,253
Likes: 50
From: Sandy Eggo Calif.
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12, '16
Default

Originally Posted by trayack
My OEM wires were just fine and installed correctly.
So the rough idle, bucks, skips, and backfires were just normal?
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:09 AM
  #11  
tjwong's Avatar
tjwong
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,596
Likes: 19
From: Portland Oregon
Default

You could have a wire 3 feet long and it won't make any difference. You may measure if slight voltage drop with a 3 foot long wire but be aware that you have over 50kv output from your COP ignition coil, a 1kv drop would not affect it at all with another 40 kv in reserve. it only takes about 10 to 15kv for at most engine operating conditions and even at 40kv you have an additional 20kv in reserve. I claim snake oil as in most of these types of products.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2011 | 12:28 PM
  #12  
Bill Curlee's Avatar
Bill Curlee
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 32,910
Likes: 2,402
From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Look at the SPECS for the thunder volt wires. If you cut open a GM Performance Red Wire,,, there made the same way. In fact some of the aftermarket wires are also constructed the same and have thicker insulation. They dont claim 10-15 HP increases!

In a HIGH VOLTAGE circuit,,, the current does NOT flow thru the wire... It flows on the OUTSIDE of the conductor in a phenomena called the SKIN EFFECT. The resistance of the wire has very little effect on the current delivered to the spark-plug.

Another vote for snake oil!
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2011 | 09:58 PM
  #13  
trayack's Avatar
trayack
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 61
From: Nantucket MA
Default

Thanks guys....keep up the good work.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To FireCore 50 Ignition Wires :thumbs:





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE