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See this is what I don't understand. You all think that I am shading George's company in a bad light when all I wanted was some info before I talked to the man myself.
Answer this for me and then tell me if I did anything wrong.
Have any of you purchased a product and when something wasn't correct asked someone else who had the same product if had happened to them before you took it back? You all know that you have or at least would have of you knew someone to ask........
I feel that some of you need to take the lump of coal your trying to turn into a diamond out of your ballon knot.......
I for one did not mean to imply that you did anything wrong by your post. My response was just to say that if you did contact George @ MGW, that you would likely have a positive experience.
He has offered to fix or refund my money but to say I have had a positive experience is far from the truth. I was much happier when i thought I just had a broken shifter and didn't know that he had the info and never told anyone of the issue. He actually told me in an email that it was to inconceivent for the customer and too costly for him to notifiy all of the people who could have bought a bad shifter.......
You want to know what was inconveient? Finding this problem at 6pm leaving work 25 miles from home. Having to take a cab home and then having to get a ride back to work and fix it that night with the Hurst shifter I luckily hadn't sold.
I would have been much happier if I HAD gotten a notice that there may have been a problem and then I could have looked at it in my driveway without having to be broken down somewhere.
Let me end by saying- As much as I don't like the way I as a customer was delt with I will be getting the shifter repaired and reinstall it. At worst I get a shifter to sell at best I get a great shifter. I liked my shifter before it broke,never said I didn't. It's much better then stock,and much quieter then a Hurst.
I am confused and admit i am no expert but is this other post of yous about a broken shifter box caused by MGW or something else. I was thinking of getting an MGW this winter because i have read a lot of very positive threads about the shifter and support.
I am confused and admit i am no expert but is this other post of yous about a broken shifter box caused by MGW or something else. I was thinking of getting an MGW this winter because i have read a lot of very positive threads about the shifter and support.
There are a LOT of positive threads because it's a quality product made by a man constantly striving to make it better and better.
I've had an MGW in my Z06 for close to three years now and I still love it to death. So do many folks here on the forum.
Get one, be happy, and don't let every little bump in the road of life cause you to sit at home (especially when it's someone else's bump.)
If your 2007 has more than around 30k miles then it might be wise to replace the shifter box at the same time. Make everything in there brand new. It's an easy job.
I am confused and admit i am no expert but is this other post of yous about a broken shifter box caused by MGW or something else. I was thinking of getting an MGW this winter because i have read a lot of very positive threads about the shifter and support.
I cannot say with any centainty that the shifter broke my shifter box. It is just very coincidental that they both have the same isuse now with the box's shaft that mates to the trans has about .250 side to side travel when the box displayed no signs of trouble when I installed the shifter in June of this year. This is all my own speculation though.
/I realize this thread is about 4 months old but...
I don't believe the quality of the rubber had anything to do with this, it seems like you are putting your entire body weight into each shift! You managed to break the shifter and the box at the same time?! I feel sorry for your transmission, hopefully it doesn't give out on you soon. I own a 2001 z06, so I can't attest as to how much force is required to shift on your generation 'Vette, but I'm fairly certain you are BEATING THE SH** out of it!
/I realize this thread is about 4 months old but...
I don't believe the quality of the rubber had anything to do with this, it seems like you are putting your entire body weight into each shift! You managed to break the shifter and the box at the same time?! I feel sorry for your transmission, hopefully it doesn't give out on you soon. I own a 2001 z06, so I can't attest as to how much force is required to shift on your generation 'Vette, but I'm fairly certain you are BEATING THE SH** out of it!
FYI, If your car is making a lot of torque to the wheels, or if the clutch isnt operating to its full potential, then yes more shift pressure is needed...maybe not in your stock 01'....Stop being one of those guys...DONT BE A DIC*
FYI, If your car is making a lot of torque to the wheels, or if the clutch isnt operating to its full potential, then yes more shift pressure is needed...maybe not in your stock 01'....Stop being one of those guys...DONT BE A DIC*
FYI, if my car's clutch wasn't performing to it's full potential I wouldn't be BEATING THE SH** out of it! Who said my 01 was stock? It appears as if you are trying to be "one of those guys!" I, unlike the OP, know how to take care of my vehicle and operate it efficiently. But, you must be his boy or something so kudos to you for stickin' up for him.
FYI, if my car's clutch wasn't performing to it's full potential I wouldn't be BEATING THE SH** out of it! Who said my 01 was stock? It appears as if you are trying to be "one of those guys!" I, unlike the OP, know how to take care of my vehicle and operate it efficiently. But, you must be his boy or something so kudos to you for stickin' up for him.
not one of his boys...i dont even know him...its just obvious he beats the **** out of it lol the boxes are impossible to break. I had an mgw fail but it was one of their re-designs and it was warrantied no problem..so it isnt always abuse
...its just obvious he beats the **** out of it...
These cars are built to withstand a certain amount of "spirited" driving, but everything has it's limits. If his pockets are deep enough to accomodate the costs associated with such abuse then good for him, I just hate seeing beautiful cars being ragged out. Especially when people do it, then come here complaining because something broke!
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/I realize this thread is about 4 months old but...
I don't believe the quality of the rubber had anything to do with this, it seems like you are putting your entire body weight into each shift! You managed to break the shifter and the box at the same time?! I feel sorry for your transmission, hopefully it doesn't give out on you soon. I own a 2001 z06, so I can't attest as to how much force is required to shift on your generation 'Vette, but I'm fairly certain you are BEATING THE SH** out of it!
Sir did you even read the post by george where admitted that he sent out uncured rubber inserts with some shifters??? I weigh 155 lbs I don't think it was an issuse with me breaking it.....
I, unlike the OP, know how to take care of my vehicle and operate it efficiently. But, you must be his boy or something so kudos to you for stickin' up for him.
Nice way to ***-U-ME sir... Again George sent out bad shifters and admitted to doing so.
I know it must make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to think you're a better person or driver then me somehow because I recieved a bad shifter. While you're at it why don't you just assume that I beat women and children also.
Wow some people really need to get a life and stop butting their dicks into where they don't belong..................
Should a notice have been sent to customers who purchased shifters around the time frame that the bad batch was discovered, instructing them to inspect the rubber grommets? Absolutely, no argument from me there! In a perfect world where businesses start from scratch with millions of dollars on hand that can afford to send out massive recalls for every product sold, this wouldn't have been an issue! I believe George did the right thing by scrapping the batch and redesigning the isolator to further prevent it from happening again. He also provided you with very generous options to remedy this issue, but instead you chose to publicly bash him here on this forum (and who knows how many other forums). I intend to buy an MGW shifter in the near future, regardless of what a woman/children beatin' non-skilled driver has to say about it!
Well thank you for for not being too much of a douch to not admit I am right that I should have been warned.
BTW-I didn't know that it took millions of dollars to send out an email to his customers or a pm here.....Stop acting like I am the bad guy here. I got f***ed and all he has to say is it was too inconveinent for him to warn me. I hope something happens to your 50K+ car and the person who's part is responsible says the same to you.
I don't consider a warranty that I paid for to begin with when I bought the shifter as good customer relations. Maybe you do but that is the bottom of the list of things the biz can do to reslove a problem.
When a problem arises is when you see what kind of person they are. George choose to hide from it and just wait for them to come back because a warning would have hurt his reputation.
First, an email/pm and a recall are two different things, the latter being of greater cost.
Secondly, by using his funding to research and redesign the isolator, I'm sure his actions have prevented this from happening again or at least GREATLY reduced the chances. While assisting any customers who brought issues to him regarding your same situation on a case by case basis.
Besides, do you know for a fact that your shifter came from this "bad batch?" Or are you ***-U-ME...ing that it did based on his response here?
I never asked for a recall, only a warning. What r&d? SeMs as though with the amount pf redesigns he has gone through that WE aew his r&d......... Maybe if he tested them for a year or 15k miles before he sold them he might not have these issuses. But I'm sure that is my fault to you also.....
The fact that it hadn't spent a year in R&D didn't keep you from buying it, you bought it because it was recommended by nearly every 'Vette enthusiast and for good reason! Open your eyes and realize that the world you live in isn't perfect, stuff wears out and things break, sometimes grommets are defective...**** HAPPENS! The website doesn't imply that years of R&D were put into anything, yet significant design changes have improved upon these issues! You can't blame MGW for leaving you stranded at work. You took the risk of modifying your only mode of transportation, that's on YOU!