Nothing's wrong.... You have a bit of "Chuck CoW TECHNOLOGY" that our resident

engineer AIRBUSPILOT can't seem to rationalize....

EXACTLY like I have been attempting to drill into his thick, pompous head... (we all know that pilots are

smarter than the average male human species) Wouldn't the world be a better place if we could

achieve optimal operating temps with MINIMAL fan effort, speed, noise, etc?????

YES, it would be....And with my tune and stat.....IT IS.

For those of you that can see the clear benefits of using people (like me) who have a wealth

of knowledge and experience we're willing to to share for free.....as opposed to a "KNOW IT ALL"

that's trying to bolster his sense of self worth by putting someone down that has much more

real world experience than himself.... I just don't get it....

I'm not here to win any contests, I just want to help you guys see through (or cut through)

all the garbage and misconceptions that people post up here as the TRUTH.

That's it boys.
Chuck CoW

 

Funny, you trying to insult me by perfectly describing yourself (thick headed, pompous, etc.).

I guess if I'm so wrong (all that fancy science you shouldn't believe) you have nothing to worry about. But since you've never been able to explain why a colder engine makes more power than a warmer one will, your credibility is questionable. Throw in your usual immature insults, and that's pretty much sums it up.

If you don't agree with my opinion, then debate it with factual science. Otherwise, just shut up and stick to cartoon drawings and every changing font sizes.

 

Your location is close to me and if you want we can take my car out so you can see first hand how a C6 with a 160 stat w/reprogramed fans works. My car is also an A6 it has headers, cai, 160 and a tune. In 3 years it has never had one hiccup it runs hard and drives perfect. the heater even works good.




btw I run Mobile 1 oil and I've been told that's no good either.

 

That has nothing to do with what he's asking

 

Are you sure about that?



The benefits are being able will show him firsthand how the reprogramed fans work i.e. what temps they come on/off at and what temps the car runs at on the road.

 

Haha I'm so intrigued by this discussion over a $20 part that takes 10 minutes to install. Just do it. With or without a tune or any other perf parts you may or may not see a difference, but remember you will only be out $20 bucks... Every good tuner will tell you to just do it. No one is making money on $20 corvette thermostats so not a very good gimmick ehhh?

 

I don't always agree with Chuck CoW, but I do this time. From a pratical stanpoint if you drive your car hard, heat soak is an issue that robs power, especially on FI cars.

My past car was a non-intercooled supercharged car that you could watch the temp gauge climb the longer you held it at WOT. After WOT, the temp would recover but never as low as before. Switching to a 160 helped this a lot. It alowed the temp to recover to a lower level (around 175). With FI, the difference between a cool running engine or a heat soaked engine was unmistakable. The car clearly ran better with the 160 stat.

With NA the difference is the same but more subtle. Bottom line is you need to keep the underhood temps low for best performance.

 

right on.. just do it..

 

Based on this post as well as others, I will no longer consider doing business with a certain vendor. Nothing turns me off more than smoke screens, propaganda and flashy crap. I'm my book, the louder you scream and try to discredit others, the quicker you lose me. Lines blurr very quickly when money is on the line...now I can't tell what is true and what is a sales pitch. I'm backing away from this thread....QUICKLY!!!

 

Where are you all buying your stats from?

 

Summit (usually gets to you the fastest) or Maryland Speed (lowest price)

 

Gene @ GMParthouse has them on sale.

 

78 posts about a thermostat?

 

While we are talking 160 stats and best operating temps any views on using products like Redline Water Wetter along with stock stats or even a 160 stat to achieve even lower temps?

Tnxs,
John

 

Yes, BUT... Waterwetter or similar products only work on water, not antifreeze. So, to keep my 570 rwhp Z cool (with a Vette Air scoop partially blocking the radiator) I run 25% antifreeze, 75% water, one bottle of WW, a 160 stat, and fan (NOT FANS, there's only one on a C6) settings of 30% @ 192, 60% @ 196, and 90% above that.

Winter time she cruises at 175+, summer 180-185.

 

I have seen the best results on the track running straight water and water wetter.

For a 50/50 mix you would see some improvement in temps but water wetter also claims to reduce hot spots which may not show up in coolant temps.

 

I have read this forum with great interest, especially the debate between Chuck and Airbus Pilot ( I am a pilot also, prefer boeings over airbus, more of a pilots plane, like the vette, I can stomp on my rudders as long as I am in VA (maneuvering speed) realm without rudder falling off the plane but I am not trying to start a new war here), I certainly respect experience gained for modifying thousands of cars.

I have a question for you Chuck.

I have successfully used 160 stats on my previous corvettes (without modifying fan settings) but this is the first time I have one with a dry sump system and 10.5 quarts of oil to bring up to temps therefore I am bit hesitant. The GS is not tracked (yet), driven very spritedly, and my one way to work commute is 11 miles,one way. By horsing around from light to light I get my oil temps to 187 by the time I get to work (or home) and that is probably why I average 13 miles to the gallon (what my DIC says). I am afraid that if I go to 160 stat my oil temps will not get hot enough to boil the moisture out of all that oil. Even with 6 quarts a proper drive should be about 21-22 miles, from what I hear. What is your opinion on this subject?...probably being bit overly concerned about this, but us pilots are like that...

PS, I'll be checking your tuning section on your web pages as soon as that darn construction is over!

 

With the utmost respect for you and the members of this forum....

You guys (Corvette Forum Members) have yourselves worried sick over stuff that you just simply

don't understand. All day long I answer questions from guys worried about oil temp vs. coolant temp

and it's effect on moisture in the oil and nonsense like that....

Last time I checked, oil and water don't mix.....and let's say you poured a shot glass

(which is like 50 times or more than condensation could accumulate to...)

Do you think it would last more than 5 minutes in an engine running at 200 degrees....

When condensation accumulates in your oil fill cap in cold climates, dose it really do anything

in your engine....? Has anyone's engine ever failed from something like this.????

For whatever stupid nonsense reason someone decided to alarm thousands of innocent

middle aged dudes with corvettes, I'll never know!

By the time your engine oil reaches 150 or so, you're good to go. A 160 stat is NOT going to make

it happen any later (only the higher temps) and wether you have a 160 or not, there is no need to

warm up your vehicle any more or less.

AGAIN, guys...Hear me out... WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS...

What the HECK are you worried about and more importantly...WHY!?!?!

Cause some "DUDE" on the Corvette Forum said you MIGHT get moisture in your oil?!?!?!

OH MARY! PLEASE! Tell me another story.

In all seriousness, does anyone out there who might be on the fence give any thought to the

FACT that I've installed 1,000s of 160 stats in 1,000s of Corvettes (and other vehicles)

over the years??? Both in the HOTTEST climates and as far north as ALASKA.....

Someone, PLEASE SOMEONE... Direct me to a post or thread on this forum that links, suggests, implies,

or proves that installation of a 160 stat causes even the SLIGHTEST UNFAVORABLE circumstance....

Show me just one.... Prove it to me. Just the slightest shred of evidence that what

I've been doing for 25+ years and 1,000s of times is WRONG or detrimental in ANY WAY, SHAPE, or FORM.

Sure, some of you are confused....

But, don't you feel better about it after using some common sense and reading what I've written...

It's a good thing it's SUNDAY night, cause I'm getting tired of these "THERMOSTAT" threads....




Chuck CoW

 

Chuck, you are spot-on.

This is one of the biggest things I've noticed about this forum, compared to other forums. Most other forums, the guy on the other end of the keyboard actually works on his own cars or has dirt under his fingernails.
This is the only "car" forum where I read in many posts... "My mechanic says this" or "My mechanic says that". Many people here don't know any more about cars than what their "mechanic" told them or what they've read on the internet... yet they spout off here as an expert.
I see posts from people who are proud of a new polished oil cap or stripes on their fenders.

God... I cannot fathom the panic that would ensue if many of these folks pulled a valve cover off in the middle of Winter to find a white pasty film of goo under it. Oh the HORROR !

Guys asking for a "scientific explanation" as to why a 160 T-stat works ? What do you suppose they would think of a guy running a restrictor plate instead of a thermostat ?

Pure comedy is what it is and these people will never understand how foolish they sound.