Vararam Intake Manifold
Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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Yes sir 
I already have two air tubes that come down from my roof scoop feeding a box where my filter currently is. I just think that by having dual TBs in my case would be aesthetically pleasing if for no other reason. Plus, maybe one day when I get the budget to go crazy with twin turbos, it would already be ideal for that as well.
I already have two air tubes that come down from my roof scoop feeding a box where my filter currently is. I just think that by having dual TBs in my case would be aesthetically pleasing if for no other reason. Plus, maybe one day when I get the budget to go crazy with twin turbos, it would already be ideal for that as well.
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Those are such cool cars but my wife would divorce me if I tried to spend the next 2 years in the garage. Maybe some day.
Racer
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Hell.....what's the point in that, unless you flip for an over-sized tube and splitter that'll split under the hood?
Then.....SD conversion, specialized tuning program and a tuning who's figured out the program, plus an additional TB.
IMO, Edelbrock should be engineering and offering the SD conversion, the tune program, and the additional hardware (for single tube splitting into two). And all that costs additional cheese.....not to mention some interesting fitment issues.
I can't see the Edelbrock intake being worth the hassle
.....KW
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Its a show car/race car setup.
It isn't made for a corvette, just an ls3. The 2nd TB would be right through the alternator.
As for offering tuning/etc for a race car part, ahahahahaahhahahahahahahaah.
It isn't made for a corvette, just an ls3. The 2nd TB would be right through the alternator.
As for offering tuning/etc for a race car part, ahahahahaahhahahahahahahaah.
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One tube that feeds 2 throttle-bodies?
Hell.....what's the point in that, unless you flip for an over-sized tube and splitter that'll split under the hood?
Then.....SD conversion, specialized tuning program and a tuning who's figured out the program, plus an additional TB.
IMO, Edelbrock should be engineering and offering the SD conversion, the tune program, and the additional hardware (for single tube splitting into two). And all that costs additional cheese.....not to mention some interesting fitment issues.
I can't see the Edelbrock intake being worth the hassle .....
KW
Hell.....what's the point in that, unless you flip for an over-sized tube and splitter that'll split under the hood?
Then.....SD conversion, specialized tuning program and a tuning who's figured out the program, plus an additional TB.
IMO, Edelbrock should be engineering and offering the SD conversion, the tune program, and the additional hardware (for single tube splitting into two). And all that costs additional cheese.....not to mention some interesting fitment issues.
I can't see the Edelbrock intake being worth the hassle
.....KW
Aftermarket will figure out the tuning part.
Racer
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KW
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Just like any other mod, ever. How is this different than a fast, msd, or other intake? Besides adding a 2nd tb with a controller for that, you still need to tune for those.
Does edelbrock ship jets and settings for carbs with all its old school intakes? Nope, you have to tune them. Tuning is part of modding a car, if you can't handle it or don't have a shop to do it, stay stock. This is a race part, for high end all out applications, not a bolt on and go product.
Any mods that change airflow/power need tuning.
Does edelbrock ship jets and settings for carbs with all its old school intakes? Nope, you have to tune them. Tuning is part of modding a car, if you can't handle it or don't have a shop to do it, stay stock. This is a race part, for high end all out applications, not a bolt on and go product.
Any mods that change airflow/power need tuning.
Racer
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Just like any other mod, ever. How is this different than a fast, msd, or other intake? Besides adding a 2nd tb with a controller for that, you still need to tune for those.
Does edelbrock ship jets and settings for carbs with all its old school intakes? Nope, you have to tune them. Tuning is part of modding a car, if you can't handle it or don't have a shop to do it, stay stock. This is a race part, for high end all out applications, not a bolt on and go product.
Any mods that change airflow/power need tuning.
Does edelbrock ship jets and settings for carbs with all its old school intakes? Nope, you have to tune them. Tuning is part of modding a car, if you can't handle it or don't have a shop to do it, stay stock. This is a race part, for high end all out applications, not a bolt on and go product.
Any mods that change airflow/power need tuning.
How is it different from the "fast, msd, or other intake"? Really? You mean....beside the obvious.....right
?KW
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They don't come with tuning. In some cases, you also need added parts like injector spacers/rails.
It isn't marketed as a direct replacement for ls3 manifolds. it is a ls3 port shape for that style of head. Hell, it won't even fit a vette without moving coils, alternator, etc.
It isn't marketed as a direct replacement for ls3 manifolds. it is a ls3 port shape for that style of head. Hell, it won't even fit a vette without moving coils, alternator, etc.
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They don't come with tuning. In some cases, you also need added parts like injector spacers/rails.
It isn't marketed as a direct replacement for ls3 manifolds. it is a ls3 port shape for that style of head. Hell, it won't even fit a vette without moving coils, alternator, etc.
It isn't marketed as a direct replacement for ls3 manifolds. it is a ls3 port shape for that style of head. Hell, it won't even fit a vette without moving coils, alternator, etc.
Seriously???
Melting Slicks
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I think you guys are missing Unreal's point. The new Edelbrock is no different than any other intake manifold or major engine mod in that they all require tuning and possibly additional parts for a complete fit. Now whether or not that tuning will be more complex than standard IMs I couldn't say. But it will require tuning just like a FAST, ported stock IM, etc. Unless he is blind and using a voice interactive PC, I don't think he would say the Edelbrock is the same as other IMs.
But this thread is about the Vararam manifold......I think
But this thread is about the Vararam manifold......I think
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Plus you could still run a maf with this if you wanted. No reason it wouldn't work. Only downside to the maf would be air leaks on the unmetered side. Could run dual 4" inlets to the filter, and just put the maf on the drivers side on, and account for the airflow in the tables.
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99% would not benefit from the added volume or complexity of dual 90 mm throttle bodies. Team Corvette races a C7R with twin inlet restrictors at about 30 mm each (a half dollar piece is 30.61 mm), it's plenum volume that is the most influential on NA motors and forced induction motors can push a ton of air through a single 102 TB. If twin TB's is your thing they look cool but I haven't seen documented benefits.
Melting Slicks
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I find the arguments against running a single MAF and then splitting into dual tubes for the edelbrock manifold funny seeing as how thats essentially what the vararam intake design does. The vararam just utilizes a single TB instead of dual TBs. The dual plenum aspect of both manifolds is very similar.
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I find the arguments against running a single MAF and then splitting into dual tubes for the edelbrock manifold funny seeing as how thats essentially what the vararam intake design does. The vararam just utilizes a single TB instead of dual TBs. The dual plenum aspect of both manifolds is very similar.