Please help me with Headers selection
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Please help me with Headers selection
It looks like these are the best and also the most expensive LG Motorsports 1 7/8 Super Pro Long Tube Headers. Seems they produce the most HP & Torque and this will put you at about $1700.
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks
Le Mans Master
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From: Atlanta GA
[QUOTE=xlr8nflorida;1592787498]It looks like these are the best and also the most expensive LG Motorsports 1 7/8 Super Pro Long Tube Headers. Seems they produce the most HP & Torque and this will put you at about $1700.
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks[/QUOTE
I am sure there are other brands but i went with the LG's because of the many reports on how well they were made , how well they fit and how easy they were to install ... all things you have to consider in your decison .
Nothing like doing all that work and finding out that you have a header flange leak or your kit is missing the correct O2 sensor extensions or you got the wrong clamps or exhaust gaskets.....
As far as sound , with my NPP's closed , it is only a bit louder than stock , just enought that you can hear the engine
Dave
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks[/QUOTE
I am sure there are other brands but i went with the LG's because of the many reports on how well they were made , how well they fit and how easy they were to install ... all things you have to consider in your decison .
Nothing like doing all that work and finding out that you have a header flange leak or your kit is missing the correct O2 sensor extensions or you got the wrong clamps or exhaust gaskets.....
As far as sound , with my NPP's closed , it is only a bit louder than stock , just enought that you can hear the engine
Dave
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It looks like these are the best and also the most expensive LG Motorsports 1 7/8 Super Pro Long Tube Headers. Seems they produce the most HP & Torque and this will put you at about $1700.
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks
But you still can add some mod's in the future, but would not advised to go crazy with big lift cams and high flowing heads. That's where the larger tube headers come into play.
A lot of folks are happy with ARH as another brand to research.
Last edited by extrapilot; Aug 6, 2016 at 08:55 AM.
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My first question is: Why do you want headers? You don't plan on more mods, they cost a lot for the performance gain, a tune is required to extract the most power, they don't increase the sound much, the cosmetic appeal is minimal, and the car is a DD.
You could buy used headers, choose from several brands under $1K, or use Z06 manifolds & pipes to get nearly the same results at a much lower cost and then include a dyno tune to get more power than just headers alone.
Just for reference, my '08 is running used LG Streets with Z06 mufflers. The cost including a NPP-in-a-box was less than $1200. The sound is controllable and it makes enough power along with several other low cost bolt-on mods to have fun at the track and run 10's in the 1/4. The car is a DD with 138K miles, of which about 1/3 are road trips of 2000 miles minimum that always get more than 26 mpg.
You could buy used headers, choose from several brands under $1K, or use Z06 manifolds & pipes to get nearly the same results at a much lower cost and then include a dyno tune to get more power than just headers alone.
Just for reference, my '08 is running used LG Streets with Z06 mufflers. The cost including a NPP-in-a-box was less than $1200. The sound is controllable and it makes enough power along with several other low cost bolt-on mods to have fun at the track and run 10's in the 1/4. The car is a DD with 138K miles, of which about 1/3 are road trips of 2000 miles minimum that always get more than 26 mpg.
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Depends on what model of our headers you pick of course, and what you are doing with it.
We offer a few discounts to forum members, and you can also find some killer deals through our dealer network too! If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to help anyway I can.
Anthony
We offer a few discounts to forum members, and you can also find some killer deals through our dealer network too! If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to help anyway I can.
Anthony
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Thanks for the help from all the people who responded.
This is just my driver, it has really low mileage but will sell it and purchase another in 5 years or so. I have a LT-5 ZR-1 that I put about $15,000 in mods into it. On that car I went with Stainless works headers. I'm not interested in doing that with my C6, I just want to squeeze out some more relatively inexpensive ponies and than call it a day.
In regards to what I'm looking for:
1. Deeper/louder sound without being obnoxious.
2. If I could grab 20-30 HP and be in the 450-460 hp range I'd be happy.
3. I may or may not tune it.
4. Not looking for a hack job header, Looking for something I can either install myself or bring to a shop and have it not be a nightmare to install. Preferably a header, that I can pull off and sell down the road and get alittle $ back. A header that is probably coated so it looks good and helps with heat etc.
Thanks for input.
This is just my driver, it has really low mileage but will sell it and purchase another in 5 years or so. I have a LT-5 ZR-1 that I put about $15,000 in mods into it. On that car I went with Stainless works headers. I'm not interested in doing that with my C6, I just want to squeeze out some more relatively inexpensive ponies and than call it a day.
In regards to what I'm looking for:
1. Deeper/louder sound without being obnoxious.
2. If I could grab 20-30 HP and be in the 450-460 hp range I'd be happy.
3. I may or may not tune it.
4. Not looking for a hack job header, Looking for something I can either install myself or bring to a shop and have it not be a nightmare to install. Preferably a header, that I can pull off and sell down the road and get alittle $ back. A header that is probably coated so it looks good and helps with heat etc.
Thanks for input.
Last edited by xlr8nflorida; Aug 8, 2016 at 02:31 PM.
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Thanks for the help from all the people who responded.
This is just my driver, it has really low mileage but will sell it and purchase another in 5 years or so. I have a LT-5 ZR-1 that I put about $15,000 in mods into it. On that car I went with Stainless works headers. I'm not interested in doing that with my C6, I just want to squeeze out some more relatively inexpensive ponies and than call it a day.
In regards to what I'm looking for:
1. Deeper/louder sound without being obnoxious.
2. If I could grab 20-30 HP and be in the 450-460 hp range I'd be happy.
3. I may or may not tune it.
4. Not looking for a hack job header, Looking for something I can either install myself or bring to a shop and have it not be a nightmare to install. Preferably a header, that I can pull off and sell down the road and get alittle $ back. A header that is probably coated so it looks good and helps with heat etc.
Thanks for input.
This is just my driver, it has really low mileage but will sell it and purchase another in 5 years or so. I have a LT-5 ZR-1 that I put about $15,000 in mods into it. On that car I went with Stainless works headers. I'm not interested in doing that with my C6, I just want to squeeze out some more relatively inexpensive ponies and than call it a day.
In regards to what I'm looking for:
1. Deeper/louder sound without being obnoxious.
2. If I could grab 20-30 HP and be in the 450-460 hp range I'd be happy.
3. I may or may not tune it.
4. Not looking for a hack job header, Looking for something I can either install myself or bring to a shop and have it not be a nightmare to install. Preferably a header, that I can pull off and sell down the road and get alittle $ back. A header that is probably coated so it looks good and helps with heat etc.
Thanks for input.
Le Mans Master
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From: corpus christi Texas
[QUOTE=Dcasole;1592787994]
I had ARH installed 5 years ago and they leak on all eight. To this day I'm still tying to get them replaced....I will never recommend ARHs to anyone!!!
It looks like these are the best and also the most expensive LG Motorsports 1 7/8 Super Pro Long Tube Headers. Seems they produce the most HP & Torque and this will put you at about $1700.
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks[/QUOTE
I am sure there are other brands but i went with the LG's because of the many reports on how well they were made , how well they fit and how easy they were to install ... all things you have to consider in your decison .
Nothing like doing all that work and finding out that you have a header flange leak or your kit is missing the correct O2 sensor extensions or you got the wrong clamps or exhaust gaskets.....
As far as sound , with my NPP's closed , it is only a bit louder than stock , just enought that you can hear the engine
Dave
Are there other brands that are almost as good and not bad to install for less money?
For example the Texas Speed and performance headers.
Does anybody have a sound clip of stock LS3 with Headers only?
I just daily drive my 08 C6. Not planning on any other mods.
Thanks[/QUOTE
I am sure there are other brands but i went with the LG's because of the many reports on how well they were made , how well they fit and how easy they were to install ... all things you have to consider in your decison .
Nothing like doing all that work and finding out that you have a header flange leak or your kit is missing the correct O2 sensor extensions or you got the wrong clamps or exhaust gaskets.....
As far as sound , with my NPP's closed , it is only a bit louder than stock , just enought that you can hear the engine
Dave
Melting Slicks
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From: Indianapolis IN
I run ARH and have 0 issues. They are very high quality. You get what you pay for.
Cherokee, I have never heard of a case like that. I would imagine they would seek to make this right unless they were damaged.
Cherokee, I have never heard of a case like that. I would imagine they would seek to make this right unless they were damaged.
Melting Slicks
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From: Miami Florida
[QUOTE=Cherokee Nation;1592806832]
I have never complain to them cause I'm not going to waste my time and money sending back my headers but will say this sense Cherokee brought it up, my ARH did leak from all eight as well where the four pipes are welded together to the collector simply put the ? that welded them didn't weld the four tubes together before welding the collector pipe on when this happen although the welder did weld them outside he just could not seal the collector and was evident by black smoke and any one could hear them but worse yet we could detect the issue in the tune as well.
A shop cut the collector off to both headers and weld the tubes then welded the collector back and I have the scars to prove it as well as the $214.00 bill.
So ya sold very expensive but not checked for leaks before packing them is defective in my book.
So will I recommend this product to my friends? NO.
A shop cut the collector off to both headers and weld the tubes then welded the collector back and I have the scars to prove it as well as the $214.00 bill.
So ya sold very expensive but not checked for leaks before packing them is defective in my book.
So will I recommend this product to my friends? NO.
Melting Slicks
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From: Indianapolis IN
I have never complain to them cause I'm not going to waste my time and money sending back my headers but will say this sense Cherokee brought it up, my ARH did leak from all eight as well where the four pipes are welded together to the collector simply put the ? that welded them didn't weld the four tubes together before welding the collector pipe on when this happen although the welder did weld them outside he just could not seal the collector and was evident by black smoke and any one could hear them but worse yet we could detect the issue in the tune as well.
A shop cut the collector off to both headers and weld the tubes then welded the collector back and I have the scars to prove it as well as the $214.00 bill.
So ya sold very expensive but not checked for leaks before packing them is defective in my book.
So will I recommend this product to my friends? NO.
Unfortunately everyone is human and we do make mistakes from time to time. ARH is so rare at making them its almost unheard of.
You really should have contacted them. I think you would be surprised what some of these top tier companies will do to keep their reputation at or very close to 100%.
Last edited by User Omega; Aug 18, 2016 at 02:59 AM.
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[QUOTE=xBoostx;1592871470]
But...but...you did waste your money repairing them. Why would anybody pay $$$ and NOT send them back. 
I bought used 1-3/4 ARH off the forums last year. Fit and finish is perfect. I have a few buddies with them and no issues.
I bought used 1-3/4 ARH off the forums last year. Fit and finish is perfect. I have a few buddies with them and no issues.
Melting Slicks
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From: Miami Florida
[QUOTE=Curt D;1592873877][QUOTE=xBoostx;1592871470]
But...but...you did waste your money repairing them. Why would anybody pay $$$ and NOT send them back.
Nope not crazy didn't want to wait weeks with the car on jack stands plenty of work having to remove a defective set of headers and having to install them for the second time add weeks of wait.
But...but...you did waste your money repairing them. Why would anybody pay $$$ and NOT send them back.
Nope not crazy didn't want to wait weeks with the car on jack stands plenty of work having to remove a defective set of headers and having to install them for the second time add weeks of wait.
Melting Slicks
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From: Miami Florida
Unfortunately everyone is human and we do make mistakes from time to time. ARH is so rare at making them its almost unheard of.
You really should have contacted them. I think you would be surprised what some of these top tier companies will do to keep their reputation at or very close to 100%.
You really should have contacted them. I think you would be surprised what some of these top tier companies will do to keep their reputation at or very close to 100%.
Le Mans Master
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From: Atlanta GA
[QUOTE=xBoostx;1592874491][QUOTE=Curt D;1592873877]
But...but...you did waste your money repairing them. Why would anybody pay $$$ and NOT send them back.
Nope not crazy didn't want to wait weeks with the car on jack stands plenty of work having to remove a defective set of headers and having to install them for the second time add weeks of wait.
I hear where you are coming from but with the price we are paying for Corvette headers I would have made them ship me another set before hand so I could just drop one side and put the new one back up , then drop the other side ......
Then if they wanted the defective headers back , I would have shipped them back in the box that the new ones came in on their dime .....
In the end you got it fixed but not welding the pipes ...... that's not what I paid for
Just my 2 cents ...
But...but...you did waste your money repairing them. Why would anybody pay $$$ and NOT send them back.
Nope not crazy didn't want to wait weeks with the car on jack stands plenty of work having to remove a defective set of headers and having to install them for the second time add weeks of wait.
Then if they wanted the defective headers back , I would have shipped them back in the box that the new ones came in on their dime .....
In the end you got it fixed but not welding the pipes ...... that's not what I paid for
Just my 2 cents ...
Last edited by Dcasole; Aug 18, 2016 at 05:00 PM.