Solid Axle Conversion
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From: Austin Tx
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I've had a th400 and a glide in the same car, glide hands down unless making north of 2000hp then the 2 speed 400 starts to make sense. But even 1000whp in a 2,500lb car is going to be a missile on the street.
I went with a 1.80 glide this time. Have to see if the converter I got works, might be a little spicy.
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Mine has 7 pg clutches, and 7 custom clutches (each bigger surface area than a th400), and another 5 clutches, maybe 6, all holding the power in forward direct in 1:1 gear.
Trans brake can work in 1st 2.63, or second 1.54 ratio. Shift time should be somewhere between 50-100ms. Maybe less, we'll see.
There is new stuff coming out, at least that I'm working on with a few others, and it's going to put the th400, pg, etc all to shame.
Oh and it has overdrives too. Go figure.
Trans brake can work in 1st 2.63, or second 1.54 ratio. Shift time should be somewhere between 50-100ms. Maybe less, we'll see.
There is new stuff coming out, at least that I'm working on with a few others, and it's going to put the th400, pg, etc all to shame.
Oh and it has overdrives too. Go figure.
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I just like the th400 2 speed setups, because you have more starting line ratios to choose from. PG's are very light, and with such little drag, minimal losses. However right now PG parts are on a much worse backorder. Can't get a lot of good parts for them, especially clutches. But there are a few gems you can get.
Meanwhile, you can get 4l80 borgs all day for dirt cheap, and those in a th400 with a few reds will hold all the power you ever need.
I personally like the pg more than the th400. But, I have to say the ability to use second as a launching gear, and the other available gear ratios really opens up what you can do with the car. Can change power adders, tire setup, go from no prep, to radial prep. Basically it just gives you a ton more options. There really aren't that many starting line ratios you can choose from with the pg. And it seems like most are harder to get. But again I'm never going to bad mouth a PG. They have a special place in my heart.
Just don't put a 4l80 in it lmao.
Meanwhile, you can get 4l80 borgs all day for dirt cheap, and those in a th400 with a few reds will hold all the power you ever need.
I personally like the pg more than the th400. But, I have to say the ability to use second as a launching gear, and the other available gear ratios really opens up what you can do with the car. Can change power adders, tire setup, go from no prep, to radial prep. Basically it just gives you a ton more options. There really aren't that many starting line ratios you can choose from with the pg. And it seems like most are harder to get. But again I'm never going to bad mouth a PG. They have a special place in my heart.
Just don't put a 4l80 in it lmao.
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Oh also FWIW there is a cheap option for a two piece th400 case. Jegs and Summit both have them now. So that's really quite nice. Hell ATI even makes a th350 case too. Costs about the same as a pg shorty.
Lot of good options out there...
What fluid, friction and drum setup would you run on the glide? Would you just go for an 8 clutch? Or would you get a 10 drum?
I think for a street glide I would go for the extra thick clutches, either high energy or otherwise, and do 8 maybe 9 depending in a 10 drum. Less drag, more material, more fluid.
Lot of good options out there...
What fluid, friction and drum setup would you run on the glide? Would you just go for an 8 clutch? Or would you get a 10 drum?
I think for a street glide I would go for the extra thick clutches, either high energy or otherwise, and do 8 maybe 9 depending in a 10 drum. Less drag, more material, more fluid.
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Looks awesome, what size tire is on there? did i miss that? looks bigger than a 28 or it's just that its sitting absolutely perfect! Love it. Great thread and love keeping up on it, i'm also a manual guy that is likely going auto when I find a roller around here. you guys are the real heros
Do you plan on street driving on those front runners? what tires do you have on there? I have rear 15x10's but am unsure what to run up front because i do the majority of my driving on the street or street to the dragstrip.
Do you plan on street driving on those front runners? what tires do you have on there? I have rear 15x10's but am unsure what to run up front because i do the majority of my driving on the street or street to the dragstrip.
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Looks awesome, what size tire is on there? did i miss that? looks bigger than a 28 or it's just that its sitting absolutely perfect! Love it. Great thread and love keeping up on it, i'm also a manual guy that is likely going auto when I find a roller around here. you guys are the real heros
Do you plan on street driving on those front runners? what tires do you have on there? I have rear 15x10's but am unsure what to run up front because i do the majority of my driving on the street or street to the dragstrip.
Do you plan on street driving on those front runners? what tires do you have on there? I have rear 15x10's but am unsure what to run up front because i do the majority of my driving on the street or street to the dragstrip.
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I went full ham this weekend and ripped all the stock wiring, speakers, amp, fuseboxes, BCM, window regulators, etc out of the car, then deleted the mufflers and made new up pipes, added up to a good bit of weight! Routed the Holley harness in a more logical manner and rewired everything that I needed for a drive and took it for a spin, always fun to kick back and enjoy the sweat equity.
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That's wild, do you have big brakes or a handling package? i'm a base with 15" conversion and sway removed, but a blower installed... 3040 with 175 driver and tools, full tank.
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Last time at the track it was 3000 even with me, now with a full tank and me its about 2700.
I went full ham this weekend and ripped all the stock wiring, speakers, amp, fuseboxes, BCM, window regulators, etc out of the car, then deleted the mufflers and made new up pipes, added up to a good bit of weight! Routed the Holley harness in a more logical manner and rewired everything that I needed for a drive and took it for a spin, always fun to kick back and enjoy the sweat equity.
I went full ham this weekend and ripped all the stock wiring, speakers, amp, fuseboxes, BCM, window regulators, etc out of the car, then deleted the mufflers and made new up pipes, added up to a good bit of weight! Routed the Holley harness in a more logical manner and rewired everything that I needed for a drive and took it for a spin, always fun to kick back and enjoy the sweat equity.
I'm still trying to figure out front wheels, should have some rears and tires here within the month and tracks are finally open up North here as well.
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Last time at the track it was 3000 even with me, now with a full tank and me its about 2700.
I went full ham this weekend and ripped all the stock wiring, speakers, amp, fuseboxes, BCM, window regulators, etc out of the car, then deleted the mufflers and made new up pipes, added up to a good bit of weight! Routed the Holley harness in a more logical manner and rewired everything that I needed for a drive and took it for a spin, always fun to kick back and enjoy the sweat equity.
I went full ham this weekend and ripped all the stock wiring, speakers, amp, fuseboxes, BCM, window regulators, etc out of the car, then deleted the mufflers and made new up pipes, added up to a good bit of weight! Routed the Holley harness in a more logical manner and rewired everything that I needed for a drive and took it for a spin, always fun to kick back and enjoy the sweat equity.
Also, did you get to 3k lbs because of the solid rear axle? What was the irs weight?
I'm debating/looking at setting up a 9", but keeping it IRS. Not super interested in adding a bunch of fabrication right now.
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Where did you run the holley from and through? I'm trying to find a good spot, thinking about just going through the torque tube tunnel or something. Not sure yet.
Also, did you get to 3k lbs because of the solid rear axle? What was the irs weight?
I'm debating/looking at setting up a 9", but keeping it IRS. Not super interested in adding a bunch of fabrication right now.
Also, did you get to 3k lbs because of the solid rear axle? What was the irs weight?
I'm debating/looking at setting up a 9", but keeping it IRS. Not super interested in adding a bunch of fabrication right now.
It was 3k lbs with me in it with IRS.
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Where did you run the holley from and through? I'm trying to find a good spot, thinking about just going through the torque tube tunnel or something. Not sure yet.
Also, did you get to 3k lbs because of the solid rear axle? What was the irs weight?
I'm debating/looking at setting up a 9", but keeping it IRS. Not super interested in adding a bunch of fabrication right now.
Also, did you get to 3k lbs because of the solid rear axle? What was the irs weight?
I'm debating/looking at setting up a 9", but keeping it IRS. Not super interested in adding a bunch of fabrication right now.
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I ended up putting my holley in the passenger foot well, and going through the grommet there to the passenger side battery location. I have to keep my bcm and all that. Not ideal at all, really wish I could dump a huge majority of the factory harness but just not something I am willing to do with the current climate/where I live.
Sky how do you like the pheonix front runners? Are they still good?
I got my 15" irs setup. Hoosier 28x10.5w d07 (or is it c07?) semi stiff wall bias ply. Just on some cheap wheels, but didn't buy front tires yet. I have heard some good things about Pheonix bias ply's, but not much for the front runners yet.
I got real pissed yesterday when I realized the pinion I bought wasn't 30 spline. Total oversight. Just too focused on everything else I've been doing with the car. Really don't want to go up to the 8.75" gear right now (case cost+gears=yikes). I was planning everything else to be doing first start next weekend!
Sky how do you like the pheonix front runners? Are they still good?
I got my 15" irs setup. Hoosier 28x10.5w d07 (or is it c07?) semi stiff wall bias ply. Just on some cheap wheels, but didn't buy front tires yet. I have heard some good things about Pheonix bias ply's, but not much for the front runners yet.
I got real pissed yesterday when I realized the pinion I bought wasn't 30 spline. Total oversight. Just too focused on everything else I've been doing with the car. Really don't want to go up to the 8.75" gear right now (case cost+gears=yikes). I was planning everything else to be doing first start next weekend!
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I ended up putting my holley in the passenger foot well, and going through the grommet there to the passenger side battery location. I have to keep my bcm and all that. Not ideal at all, really wish I could dump a huge majority of the factory harness but just not something I am willing to do with the current climate/where I live.
Sky how do you like the pheonix front runners? Are they still good?
I got my 15" irs setup. Hoosier 28x10.5w d07 (or is it c07?) semi stiff wall bias ply. Just on some cheap wheels, but didn't buy front tires yet. I have heard some good things about Pheonix bias ply's, but not much for the front runners yet.
I got real pissed yesterday when I realized the pinion I bought wasn't 30 spline. Total oversight. Just too focused on everything else I've been doing with the car. Really don't want to go up to the 8.75" gear right now (case cost+gears=yikes). I was planning everything else to be doing first start next weekend!
Sky how do you like the pheonix front runners? Are they still good?
I got my 15" irs setup. Hoosier 28x10.5w d07 (or is it c07?) semi stiff wall bias ply. Just on some cheap wheels, but didn't buy front tires yet. I have heard some good things about Pheonix bias ply's, but not much for the front runners yet.
I got real pissed yesterday when I realized the pinion I bought wasn't 30 spline. Total oversight. Just too focused on everything else I've been doing with the car. Really don't want to go up to the 8.75" gear right now (case cost+gears=yikes). I was planning everything else to be doing first start next weekend!