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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonshurnas

1. ok lets get the fact straight the current 05 c6 has a higher top speed than the z06 period the zo6 was 172 and the c6 is 186

next i could of bought a z06 for a lot less than my c6

the c6 is a much better and more refined ride though.

2. all of you idiots that think your z06 is faster guess what i dont give a ****! i get more ***** in my c6 than you will in a z06! you know why?? the car looks way cooler! and chicks dont want a poser in a year old z06

3. so **** you zo6 man!

4. crab man i agree with you ! who are these jealous punks anyway for them to think that a z06 is a better car is just stupid.

5. what are you an idiot as well? come on dumbass look inside a c6 next time you get some time???? your z06 has an interior like my s10 truck for christ sakes! i think you should keep your z06 your not good enough to have a c6

6. when the c6 z06 comes out next year nothing will be able to compete with it and i will probably trade in my c6 but to all you loosers that own a 04 zo6 or older get a life you suck! the fact is the new c6 is just as fast 0-60 and does have a higher top speed. oh and well did i mention that it looks way better! for all you competative *******s with a year old car you can get lost. Because of the c6 owners know that you guys feel inferior , and for good reason.

7. Who Was It Intended For??

8. i guess your right no disrespect intended
No disrespect intended? What DID you intend? Some manner of reverse logic worship? Seriously - do your knuckles drag on the ground? Really seriously - cut out the caffeine/sugar cane/steroid sandwiches - I fear you may become overly energized!

As for the thread - the Z06 is quicker, and the C6 is faster. Each to his own!

Oh yeah - and on point number 2: NO WAY you're getting anything - once they hear you grunting and farting, the girls don't usually tear off the panties - unless you like farm livestock.............. even then, I don't see it!

Oh, BTW - I was just busting your chops - its called a joke - you have a nice day!!

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonshurnas
all of you idiots that think your z06 is faster guess what i dont give a ****! i get more ***** in my c6 than you will in a z06! you know why?? the car looks way cooler! and chicks dont want a poser in a year old z06

How sad that you have to USE your car for that. Maybe they should add that to the C6 brochure.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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I've raced a couple of C5's with my C6, and I came out on top by 3 car lengths starting at about 30mph and going to 100mph. Now I don't know how big that margin would be if a ZO6 vs a standard C5 raced the same way, but I think the C6 would hold it's own against a ZO6.
Now, I'll stir the pot. Any concensus on which is faster, 6spd or auto?
Mine is an auto with 3:15's. My opinion is the auto for the avg driver will be faster. Time will tell. (pun intended)
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RWSjr
Any concensus on which is faster, 6spd or auto?
Mine is an auto with 3:15's. My opinion is the auto for the avg driver will be faster. Time will tell. (pun intended)
The six speed is faster. No consensus needed - this is a fact. This gets debated every three months on the forum like clockwork. Yes, some six speed drivers won't get the most out of their car - but the question is "which is faster", not "who's the better driver".

Oh, and even at that, the six speed is still faster - even in a bad drivers hands. But the automatic MIGHT get there quicker!
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonshurnas
so **** you zo6 man!


Dude, did you skip a dose or something?
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by z06monster
How sad that you have to USE your car for that. Maybe they should add that to the C6 brochure.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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C6 (best)

60ft 2.22
1/8th 8.823
86.92

Z06 (Best)
60ft 2.09
1/8th 8.793
86.72

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These times are just sad. My 02 Formula with just exhaust and a lid ran a best of 8.38 at 86.6 mph. What was the elevation? The track I ran had elevation of 500 feet or so. My 60' was 2.09, not very good at all.
As I said before the track is up hill and horribly slick. That was not the point, the point was to compare the two. On a better track I am sure they would be quicker but still remain very close.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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The six speed is faster. No consensus needed - this is a fact. This gets debated every three months on the forum like clockwork. Yes, some six speed drivers won't get the most out of their car - but the question is "which is faster", not "who's the better driver".

Oh, and even at that, the six speed is still faster - even in a bad drivers hands. But the automatic MIGHT get there quicker!
35 years ago when I was competing in NHRA drags, Ronnie Sox was called Mr 4 Speed because he could still beat automatic cars with a manual shift in Super Stock. No one else could. Even that long ago, the automatic had already been recognized as the quickest quarter mile tranny. Autos simply shift faster and more consistently than manuals in the hands of mere mortals

Now let me hasten to add that's with both cars setup for drag racing under the then existing Super Stock rules. In showroom stock classes, which had to run street tires, the gap was often even wider because the autos could always be launched better. Most drag races between well matched cars are won or lost in the first 60 feet.

Today, things are a bit different because you can't order a showroom stock auto with a real performance rear ratio. That gives the manual cars a chance to be competitive again.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Down here at SGC today, a bone stock C6 dynoed 351 rwhp today SAE corrected. Pretty damn impressive!!
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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The C6 is to a Z06, like a 325 is to a M3.

Apples and Oranges.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by z06monster
The C6 is to a Z06, like a 325 is to a M3.

Apples and Oranges.
Don't know much about the 325 or the M3, but sounds to me like someone else doesn't know much about fruit or vettes or both.
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Originally Posted by z06monster
The C6 is to a Z06, like a 325 is to a M3.

Apples and Oranges.
An M3 has over 50% more horsepower than a 325 and costs twice as much. A C6 has the same horsepower as a Z06 and costs about 10% less. Yes, you may be talking about the C6/Z06 - but it's almost a year away and we don't know ANY of the specs on it.

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
An M3 has over 50% more horsepower than a 325 and costs twice as much. A C6 has the same horsepower as a Z06 and costs about 10% less. Yes, you may be talking about the C6/Z06 - but it's almost a year away and we don't know ANY of the specs on it.

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Yea dude...I thought the average price out the door for a C6 is 55k?
My 2001 is still as tight as a fishes *** and cost 35k on ebay.....?????
It boils down to the C5 Z..vs the c6 Z....base models dont count if you are in the "petrol head", group....

I know we all love vettes what ever they are, but preformance models are what I wanted to find out about...not street cruisers.....
The newer the better and BG keeps on getting it better.....

BTW..I know this is a C6 forum.....How else do poor C5 owners or whatever, find out about possible surprises we can expect in the new C6 "Z"

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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WOW. This thread really has stirred up some agression.

My take is, that:

1. The C6 is superior to the C5. Sorry guys, but technology advances.
The C6 is a refined C5. Things are also designed for the better such as the interior.

2. Contrary to a lot of C5 Z06 owners, the C6 Z51 is very close in performance to the previous Z06, and contrary to what someone
previously posted, the C6 can be modified to better the C5 Z06.

3. The C6 to me has a more agressive look to its lines. I like that look. To me the C6 is better looking than the C5. I also love the fact that they took some length and girth off the car. I always didn't like the C5 to the C4 for that reason even though I owned a C5. To say that the C6 is better looking than the C5 is personal opinion at the best because "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" They are both GREAT looking cars.

4. I consider myself a very practical and sometimes frugal person and would not have sold my C5 and overlooked a C5 Z06, to purchase a C6 because it was a lesser car.

I am still waiting on the c6 Z06 though as I am curious.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AJC5
WOW. This thread really has stirred up some agression.

My take is, that:

1. The C6 is superior to the C5. Sorry guys, but technology advances.
The C6 is a refined C5. Things are also designed for the better such as the interior.

2. Contrary to a lot of C5 Z06 owners, the C6 Z51 is very close in performance to the previous Z06, and contrary to what someone
previously posted, the C6 can be modified to better the C5 Z06.

3. The C6 to me has a more agressive look to its lines. I like that look. To me the C6 is better looking than the C5. I also love the fact that they took some length and girth off the car. I always didn't like the C5 to the C4 for that reason even though I owned a C5. To say that the C6 is better looking than the C5 is personal opinion at the best because "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" They are both GREAT looking cars.

4. I consider myself a very practical and sometimes frugal person and would not have sold my C5 and overlooked a C5 Z06, to purchase a C6 because it was a lesser car.

I am still waiting on the c6 Z06 though as I am curious.

1. They use a MUCH finer grade of plastic in the C6.

2. And the Z06 can be modded too, not sure about the point there.

3. The C6 is smooth, tighter and has more angles than curves. Get rid of the Billy Bass Mouth and its awesome.

4. Since you bought a C6 and not a C5 Z06, everyone who didn't isn't nearly as practical or frugal as you.


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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Jim, I'd love to see that C6 run. I personally don't buy alot of these poor 1/4 slips I've seen for the C6....the dyno numbers and gearing (Z51) are there to run a whole lot better times than 13.0s....I think the car should run pretty close to a Z06. I know my best showroom stock time was 12.10 at 117, on a 1.96 60ft out at HRP. I see no reason why a C6 shouldn't get down that low, especially if the weather cooperates.

I'll be down at HRP this Friday, after the Texas/AtM game. Probably about 6:30pm. Come on out, hopefully the weather will be great. Considering all the rain Houston has had over the past few weeks, I think HRP will have no choice but to re-prep the box area at least. The place should be hooking by Friday.
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1. They use a MUCH finer grade of plastic in the C6.
That is correct among other things. I am not asking for stainless steel with leather wrapping, but I hope that the C6 does not get the same stigma associated with it as the C5 did for having a "rental car interior" I loved my C5 but the moving plastic panels with the push plastic retainers was ugly and very cheap.

2. And the Z06 can be modded too, not sure about the point there.
You misunderstood what I was trying to say. Actually it was you who made the statement that I was responding to:

Your little base C6 is a cute little car. However, no amount of money you throw at it will make a Z06, 04 or 06. Face that reality.
Actually this is considering that all the Z06 parts for the C5 were interchangable with the base model and we can assume the same with the C6. In addition, the aftermarket will be there and I am sure that a base C6 will be able to outperform a C5 Z06 with some modifications. Yes you can mod the Z06 also but you indicated that nothing you could do to the base model could make it like a Z06. This was the statement that I was responding to.

4. Since you bought a C6 and not a C5 Z06, everyone who didn't isn't nearly as practical or frugal as you.
In my opinion yes. We already have agreed that the C6 is an advanced version of the C5 in quite a few respects and serves as a great base to modify even better than its predessor (larger engine, better trans and clutch). It wouldn't be very practical to buy one within even 5K of the C6 price to go backward. That is like saying, I have a choice of getting a LT5 C4 or a base C5 at around the same price. Collectibility notwithstanding the decision is simple; C5.
Now if you get the C5 Z06 for a lot less then that is the better value, but I was comparing new with new.

Also this logic is my opinion. In some cases people can't live with the change to the exterior and I understand that, but to put down the new vehicle just because of that isn't good either.
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