I would love to see if anyone knows why the C6 (factory model only..I know there are alot of modified C6's already!) is so docile compared to the Z06?? Is it only the weight of the Z06 that makes it so much better or is there something we dont know about????....405 hp vs 400 hp should be alot closer, not to mention the braking performance ( maybe the C6 is just a girlieboy car untill the new Z06 C6 arrives?)

 

maybe the C6 is just a girlieboy car untill the new Z06 C6 arrives?)

In all seriousness, the C6 has been clocked as low as 12.6 at 114 (by Motor Trend) and zero to 60 in 4.1. That does not qualify any car as docile. I think in the same hands, the C6 may be a couple tenths off in the quarter mile and pretty much dead even with a Z06 to 60 MPH.

 

My opinion of the two cars is different. I have never owned a ZO6, but I did drive three before deciding on a C6 Z51 6 speed. As is sometimes the case, I think you are dealing with
perceptions here that are a bit misleading. The ZO6 has more exhaust sound inside, the suspension is less compliant, and the engine's power curve is not as flat as the C6. Not that the ZO6 is peaky in the way a 2 litre turbo might be, but it does come on stronger in the higher rev range. That creates a noticeable rush in acceleration. But with the C6 motor, you have made up some of that acceleration earlier in the rev band, so the end result is very similar. But the flatter power response can offer a real advantage in gear selection when negotiating turns at speed. Overall, I find the C6 to be deceptively fast, and very comfortable. Whereas, I thought the ZO6 was fast in a very blatant way, and not as comfortable. (But currently a heck of a bargain.)

 

But as far as feel,the new C6 has that "soft" feel about it which i cannot explain....and the brakes do not come close to my Z i stopping power. How do explain the factory recall of C6's for brake mods???

 

Z06 = boy's car

C5 & C6 = girlie cruiser car

 

Probably wouldn't be so docile if you had one...perhaps lots of LG motorsports mods like on the Z06 you have would help?...nothing wrong with the brakes performance but again if you had one you would know that...

Good luck with your C6 Z07 purchase

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a major design goal of the C6 to fit the European market? As I recall the exhaust was tuned to meet the stringest limits of Switzerland. Maybe the C6 is too euro for some taste, and just right for other's.

I wonder if Ford and DC will aim their next hyper performance cars towards europe too? Will be interesting to see the direction they take on the next Cobra and Viper?

Tom

 

The C6 is replacing the C5, not the Z06. When that car comes out you can then compare them. I suspect that one will be a little less docile. A lot of the times on the C6 that have been posted are from folks that havent been on a track in years, sometimes ever. They are then running a car that they have little wheel time in to see what it can do. People have posted some stellar times with the Z06 but most of them have come over time as they have learned the car. At the begining the average times people were getting for the Z was higher. We all know what a skilled driver can get out of the Z06 at this point. Not true with the C6.

 

And what do you think a Z06 is???

Unless you are talking about Corvette's first chief engineer, Zora Arkus-Duntov, who in 1963 created the original Z06 package intended to make the then new Sting Ray race ready right out of the showroom, then last time I checked, a Z06 was a C5.

 

I didnt feel the need to point out that the Z06 was a derivative of the C5. I kinda figured everyone knew that. Thanks for pointing that out however just in case there is someone, somewhere, that did not know this. My point still stands and you know its true. Talk around it all you want.

 

Oh, I'm just razzin ya
Indeed you have to compare like with like

C5 coupe/vert vs C6 coupe/vert

C5 Z06 vs C6 Z06

Have a good one

 

So you think the C6 is too docile? Think again - check out this post of mine:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1548754698

 

Hmm...

 

With drivers of simular skill levels, we do quite well besides putting 400 rwhp and 425 rwtq to the pavement. and if that is my girly side so be it. :

 

I got news buddy: C5 and C6 = grandma's car

Z06 = Barbie's car

ZR-1 = Batman's car


Flame suit ON!

 

So Batman likes to travel at 179 MPH, while grandma's traveling at 186 MPH? Very interesting! Always had my suspicions about him and Robin.

 

Oh my fickle fiendish friend - Life begins at 180 mph!! Heard this one before? It wasn't from the C6, I guarantee it! Of course, Batman not only likes to go fast, but ride in style!

 

I wouldnt even compare the C6 with the Z06......

The car has done nonthing but let me down since the REAL numbrs startd flowing...

When I saw the13.2 posted in AUTIMOBILE and anothe 13.1 posted in anothr mag...

I KNEW SOMTHING WASNT RIGHT..........

The car is much closer to a C5 than a C5 Z06....

A normal Z06 will run anywhe from a 12.3-12.6 ( and thats not even the quick ones.....)

The C6 is barely running beter than a C5..

Most people in there mn6 C6's are runing any wher fom 12.8-13.2
Most people in there mn6 C5's are runing any wher fom 13.0-13.4

SOMEBODY TELL ME IM LYING.......??????!!!!!!!!

Thats just not that impressive......

7 years later and all thats offered is a 2 tenth quicker car?????

We can talk about this pcm and reclibrion and tire stuff all day to get the 400 ponies out of her....

But bottom lne is the way the car was desighned (ie. BONE STOCK)

It's only proven to be slightly quicker than the C5...No where near the Z06...

As far as the break in and weather......

I could drive a Z06 right off the dealer floor with only 200 miles on it and still pull a 12.6 on a 85 dege day....

It's NOVEMBER.....How much below 60 degrees dos it need to get......

It's basicly winter weather right now......


I was seriously considring trading iny 04 t get a o5 a4.

Then I read how the number from Gm said the model i wanted from GM ran a 13.0......

When you consider tat no one has matched GM's numbers....That 13.0 will eaily be a 13.3 ( especialy if theZ51 is only averaging 13.0)

Then at my hot 80 dgre Hawaiian track tat 13.3 wuld easily be a 13.4 or 13.5...

I cant see spending another 10 grand for an car that will probaly be no quicker than the one I have....

Especialy when there both brand new......

Im just so disapointed in the car......I was expecting to see 12.5's and 12.6's by now bone stock.....

Instead Ive seen times no beter than what many have claimed to do in there bone stock C5's....


BUT
HEY THERES GOOD NEWS.....

THE Z06 C6 WITH 500 HP IS GONA RUN A WHOPPING 12.3 AT 116 MPH!!!!

Well...Thats what will happen with the added power if they screw it up the way the did the C6......

If where only seeing a 3 tenth improvement over the C5 with an extra 50 HP...

Then it's quite conceivable that with an extra 150 HP we'll only see an 9 tenth improvement over the C5...

So if the C5 averages 13.2....

The way things are goin the C6 Z06 would average 12.3....


Maybe the bar was just set to high with the C5 Z06....

And there only planning to beat it by 2-3 tenths like they did the C5 vrs C6....

 

Motor trend numbers are suspect..I dont know if I trust them.!!!!
I am not saying the C6 does not go quick. I am just saying it did not feel like I expected.It is still a vette

 

Believe what you want. I believe the C6 is a 1/2 second quicker than the C5. Have you not read Car & Driver and Motor Trends tests? Do you not believe my results against my friends Z06?