Z06 vs c6
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Originally Posted by 81ZZ4
Sheeeesh...
Some people just hate to see their loved old Vettes get...well...old.
I love my old Vette but each generation gets better than the previous...
Some people just hate to see their loved old Vettes get...well...old.
I love my old Vette but each generation gets better than the previous...
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From: Tumon GU
Originally Posted by jschindler
There are so many incredibly stupid (and rude) posts here I don't know where to start.
Some of you imply (or outright state) that anybody who buys a coupe or convertible and keeps is stock is basically a "pretty boy", or just doesn't care about performance.
You guys seem to assume that everybody has the same priorities and financial where with all to do whatever we want. We have no wives or children, house payments or other responsibilities.
I for one have had a very heavily modified car in the past (20 years ago), and my previous C5's have been only slightly modifiec (cat back exhaust and cold air intake being the only performance mods). My C6 will likely stay pretty stock. Do ya'll think I'm some kind of wimp who doesn't care about performance and only bought the car to be seen in? That's what you are telling me.
I await your response then I'll gladly post my history of roadracing motorcycles, drag racing and autocrossing my Corvettes. Then we'll discuss who the pretty boys are.
Some of you imply (or outright state) that anybody who buys a coupe or convertible and keeps is stock is basically a "pretty boy", or just doesn't care about performance.
You guys seem to assume that everybody has the same priorities and financial where with all to do whatever we want. We have no wives or children, house payments or other responsibilities.
I for one have had a very heavily modified car in the past (20 years ago), and my previous C5's have been only slightly modifiec (cat back exhaust and cold air intake being the only performance mods). My C6 will likely stay pretty stock. Do ya'll think I'm some kind of wimp who doesn't care about performance and only bought the car to be seen in? That's what you are telling me.
I await your response then I'll gladly post my history of roadracing motorcycles, drag racing and autocrossing my Corvettes. Then we'll discuss who the pretty boys are.
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Originally Posted by EHS
The get better, just sometimes not better looking.
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From: Tumon GU
Originally Posted by crand002
Your kidding right, it is about time GM got rid of the pop up headlights, cavalier interior, sqeaky drivetrain, and e-brake that actually works. And most importantly GM finally swallowed their pride and took ques from the Europeans when designing the c6. Trash european cars all you want but the fact to the matter is they are always 1 sometimes 2 up in generational designing over american cars like the corvette. The C6 is the first corvette that looks and drives like it belongs in 21st century. I'm not saying the Zo6 isn't a great sports car especially for the money but it does look very dated. Pop up headlights are an 80's phenomena not a 90's and present day phenomena.
The 350 v8 is the grunt that will always keep me attached to GM and the vette.....Where can you get a car in Europe for the value of the Vette? I dont care if it doesnt have that trendy Euro trash feel/design about it
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Originally Posted by dmaccor
You have to pay for that "euro" 21st century design.....I am glad the pop up headlights are gone....Cannot really figure why GM put them there in the first place....drag reasons only I guess?????? They look out of place when they are up??? But again that is personal.
The 350 v8 is the grunt that will always keep me attached to GM and the vette.....Where can you get a car in Europe for the value of the Vette? I dont care if it doesnt have that trendy Euro trash feel/design about it
The 350 v8 is the grunt that will always keep me attached to GM and the vette.....Where can you get a car in Europe for the value of the Vette? I dont care if it doesnt have that trendy Euro trash feel/design about it
Sit in a c6 and tell me it doesn't feel European. It does and that is something to be proud of.
I don't know if it would be accurate to assume that corvettes are a bargain in Europe unless you are in the armed services.
The fact to the matter is that the c6 uses traditional american heritage and combines that with the european refinement. I am not at all saying the car is European. Like I said in my original post, the c6 uses some Euro ques.
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From: Tumon GU
Euro refinement....?????
What is that???
I wonder what dave Hill thinks about "euro refinement"???
Anyway here it is...pretty sweet!!!!
What is that???
I wonder what dave Hill thinks about "euro refinement"???
Anyway here it is...pretty sweet!!!!
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[QUOTE=dmaccor]Euro refinement....?????
What is that???
Cars like SL55's, gt3's, CSL's, etc.
I wonder what dave Hill thinks about "euro refinement"???
I will assume Dave Hill is the Designer of the C6(Nice work by the way!!!!), whether he meant to or not the design of the c6 has a Modena look to it.
If you haven't driven or owned European sports cars you will not understand what I mean by "European refinement".
What is that???
Cars like SL55's, gt3's, CSL's, etc.
I wonder what dave Hill thinks about "euro refinement"???
I will assume Dave Hill is the Designer of the C6(Nice work by the way!!!!), whether he meant to or not the design of the c6 has a Modena look to it.
If you haven't driven or owned European sports cars you will not understand what I mean by "European refinement".
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From: Tumon GU
You are right.the "refinemenent' we see now has been missing for a long time.
Keep up the good work and make it better.
He is slowly learning.....give him a couple more years and we will see the $70,000(100,000) Super Corvette!!!
Still heaps less than the Euro equilvalent.
I guess BG really want to have some "euro market"....You have to play their game.
I wish they would build a right hand drive version and they would have 1000's of buyers in UK and Australia who love the Corvette......
Keep up the good work and make it better.
He is slowly learning.....give him a couple more years and we will see the $70,000(100,000) Super Corvette!!!
Still heaps less than the Euro equilvalent.I guess BG really want to have some "euro market"....You have to play their game.
I wish they would build a right hand drive version and they would have 1000's of buyers in UK and Australia who love the Corvette......
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Originally Posted by jschindler
There are so many incredibly stupid (and rude) posts here I don't know where to start.
Some of you imply (or outright state) that anybody who buys a coupe or convertible and keeps is stock is basically a "pretty boy", or just doesn't care about performance.
You guys seem to assume that everybody has the same priorities and financial where with all to do whatever we want. We have no wives or children, house payments or other responsibilities.
I for one have had a very heavily modified car in the past (20 years ago), and my previous C5's have been only slightly modifiec (cat back exhaust and cold air intake being the only performance mods). My C6 will likely stay pretty stock. Do ya'll think I'm some kind of wimp who doesn't care about performance and only bought the car to be seen in? That's what you are telling me.
I await your response then I'll gladly post my history of roadracing motorcycles, drag racing and autocrossing my Corvettes. Then we'll discuss who the pretty boys are.
Some of you imply (or outright state) that anybody who buys a coupe or convertible and keeps is stock is basically a "pretty boy", or just doesn't care about performance.
You guys seem to assume that everybody has the same priorities and financial where with all to do whatever we want. We have no wives or children, house payments or other responsibilities.
I for one have had a very heavily modified car in the past (20 years ago), and my previous C5's have been only slightly modifiec (cat back exhaust and cold air intake being the only performance mods). My C6 will likely stay pretty stock. Do ya'll think I'm some kind of wimp who doesn't care about performance and only bought the car to be seen in? That's what you are telling me.
I await your response then I'll gladly post my history of roadracing motorcycles, drag racing and autocrossing my Corvettes. Then we'll discuss who the pretty boys are.
I have yet to figure them out at all. I only started posting because I thought it was a good way of exchanging information. I thought it would be more of a gathering of persons with common interests than a bunch of "Old Ladies" whining about changes.
Why do so many of the C5 owner have such a hard ons that we bought C6's.(I have yet to read the blazing nasty critisism's of C6's from C1, 2, 3 or 4 owners).
Why would it matter to them how we spent our money? Or if we are willing to take the depriciation hit. First I bought the car and will keep it next I don't care what it is worth if I like it and am going to keep it. It's a pity when your love of an activity needs a speadsheet.
Luckily the poeple who post, including me, are only about 2% of the overall ownership of Corvette's so the damaged egos that are such negative influences are a vociferous minority.
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I have lots of freinds who drive C5s and a few who have bought C6s. The 'base' coupe and convertible cars are really nice all around grocery getters. If thats what you like, then you should be happy driving it.
I don't think there should be bad feelings between the generations of bodystyles. People buy what they like.
Now, everyone be happy. We all drive Corvettes.
I don't think there should be bad feelings between the generations of bodystyles. People buy what they like.
Now, everyone be happy. We all drive Corvettes.
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From: Tumon GU
Originally Posted by RichardTigner
I have lots of freinds who drive C5s and a few who have bought C6s. The 'base' coupe and convertible cars are really nice all around grocery getters. If thats what you like, then you should be happy driving it.
I don't think there should be bad feelings between the generations of bodystyles. People buy what they like.
Now, everyone be happy. We all drive Corvettes.
I don't think there should be bad feelings between the generations of bodystyles. People buy what they like.
Now, everyone be happy. We all drive Corvettes.
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All these posts about how the C6 is this perfect car. All these guys on here talk about its 'awesome performance'. I guess you will all be trading in your base cars for Z06s in 2006. These will kick the base coupes *** everyday and twice on Sunday, even if you have the fantabulous Z51 option.
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C6 is far from Perfect....
If you have seen any of my previous posts the last thing I think is that mine or any C6 is perfect.
So is what you're saying the only available model of Corvette be the Z06? My C6 wasn't bought for racing that's what race cars are for. I'm just trying to understand the point of the debate.
The debate actually is very simple:
"Speed cost money how fast do you want to go?" "HE WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY WINS!!!!"
I'm not trying to insite the ire any other model year Corvette owners, but apparently just by purchasing my C6 over the Wht/LO/LO C5 vert sitting next to it at the dealership was enough if you read a lot of the posts.
So is what you're saying the only available model of Corvette be the Z06? My C6 wasn't bought for racing that's what race cars are for. I'm just trying to understand the point of the debate.
The debate actually is very simple:
"Speed cost money how fast do you want to go?" "HE WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY WINS!!!!"
I'm not trying to insite the ire any other model year Corvette owners, but apparently just by purchasing my C6 over the Wht/LO/LO C5 vert sitting next to it at the dealership was enough if you read a lot of the posts.
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Originally Posted by z06monster
All these posts about how the C6 is this perfect car. All these guys on here talk about its 'awesome performance'. I guess you will all be trading in your base cars for Z06s in 2006. These will kick the base coupes *** everyday and twice on Sunday, even if you have the fantabulous Z51 option.
Do you think maybe those posts that talked about awesome performance were driving something with less performance than a stock C5 and to them, it was awesome performance?
What's wrong with C6 owners being proud of their car? That seems to be a problem for some folks.
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Originally Posted by bangbgC6
Why do so many of the C5 owner have such a hard ons that we bought C6's.(I have yet to read the blazing nasty critisism's of C6's from C1, 2, 3 or 4 owners).
Don't get too upset - the same thing happened when the C5 came out. The same thing will happen when the C7 comes out. I guess everyone just wants to think they bought the best car out there for their money - nothing wrong with that.
Getting back to the topic of the thread - GM made the base coupe perform almost as well as the outgoing Z06 because they don't necessarily want the base vette quite as aggressive as the high performance model - that is what their next high performance model will achieve.
The base model performs very well - and can top out over 180 mph - that is a lot of car for the $$$. The next 'Z06' will take it to another level - but of course, it won't be quite as comfortable a ride as the base coupe/conv.
They're all nice cars - now let's go enjoy 'em!
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Thats right..He who has the most power wins !!!
I know the power does not have to used, but it is nice to think you have the best that BG build ..
The C6 Z is just around the corner...
I am not saying the C6 Coupe is not nice or the Convertible (if they start building it)..What ever turns you on!!!
I know the power does not have to used, but it is nice to think you have the best that BG build ..
The C6 Z is just around the corner...
I am not saying the C6 Coupe is not nice or the Convertible (if they start building it)..What ever turns you on!!!
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If I didn't already own a C5 or had owned 2 of them Coupe and Z06, and I wanted a squared off version of them with non pop up head lights...I would have bought a new generation Viper...
But being that this post was about C6 vs Z06. From everything I have seen and read the Z06 is faster. Now if this was a stock C5 Z06 vs a stock C6 Z06 it would be a no brainer. Its kind of like when the C4 ZR1 was around and the C5 came out, the ZR1 still blew it away, and then when the C5 Z06 came out...the magazines had the ZR1 vs Z06 issues and the Z06 beat the ZR1. There is no doubt the new stock C6 Z06 will outperform the old stock C5 Z06...but I know it won't out perform my old Z06...click on pics if you need to see.
But being that this post was about C6 vs Z06. From everything I have seen and read the Z06 is faster. Now if this was a stock C5 Z06 vs a stock C6 Z06 it would be a no brainer. Its kind of like when the C4 ZR1 was around and the C5 came out, the ZR1 still blew it away, and then when the C5 Z06 came out...the magazines had the ZR1 vs Z06 issues and the Z06 beat the ZR1. There is no doubt the new stock C6 Z06 will outperform the old stock C5 Z06...but I know it won't out perform my old Z06...click on pics if you need to see.
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Originally Posted by z06monster
All these posts about how the C6 is this perfect car. All these guys on here talk about its 'awesome performance'. I guess you will all be trading in your base cars for Z06s in 2006. These will kick the base coupes *** everyday and twice on Sunday, even if you have the fantabulous Z51 option.
First, as has been pointed out, I don't think anyone implied that the C6 is "perfect". Does it have "awesome" performance. Well, that is very subjective. But in the overall pecking order of the automotive world, yes, it is pretty damn awesome.
And if you think it's not going to be "awesome" compared to a C6/Z06, then go find someone with and Enzo and see if your beloved C6/Z06 looks "awesome" compared to an Enzo.
As I said, it's all relative.