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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 04:00 PM
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Sorry to hear it man! After having 2 700+rw stingrays with centri blowers I thought the Z06 was going to be slow when i first got it . Took it out on a 45 degree misty morning and damn near hit a wall (thankfully i didnt!). I was scared of it for a while but got used to it and was able to give it a few wot runs in warmer weather, and 2 months later here i am about to add a 2300 as well
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Ive had experience with pd blowers on all 3 ctsv's ive owned previously, but being about 1,000lbs heavier things were a bit more predictable when it would lose traction.

Glad you're ok and appreciate you sharing the info. Best wishes getting it all fixed up soon!!
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Wow! Sorry to hear about the accident, but on the bright side it's great that you are ok.

When I was tuning my Camaro (approx. 800whp Maggie), we do a bunch of tuning on the street...including 4th gear runs with TC off. When the weather cooled down a little combined with upping boost over 800whp, it was so scary that I quit. I turned around, when home and called the tuner. "I am done until next summer when I have DR's and warmer weather."

On my last run, in 4th gear at 50mph, 60mph, 70mph the car just spun the wheels breaking it loose. No shifting. Just smashing the throttle.
We aren't talking about "barking the tires". It was a full out breaking them loose and causing the rear to get squirrely.

Unfortunately, when you are doing a remote tune you have to get runs without traction control.

Regardless, happy you are ok and looking forward to the re-build.

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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 555ctsv
Sorry to hear it man! After having 2 700+rw stingrays with centri blowers I thought the Z06 was going to be slow when i first got it . Took it out on a 45 degree misty morning and damn near hit a wall (thankfully i didnt!). I was scared of it for a while but got used to it and was able to give it a few wot runs in warmer weather, and 2 months later here i am about to add a 2300 as well
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Ive had experience with pd blowers on all 3 ctsv's ive owned previously, but being about 1,000lbs heavier things were a bit more predictable when it would lose traction.

Glad you're ok and appreciate you sharing the info. Best wishes getting it all fixed up soon!!
I know what you are talking about. I had two Prochargers on my previous Vettes. I have had the Vortech on a previous mustang. I have had TT's on some of my "family sedans". :-)

The Maggie on my 6th Gen Camaro has been my favorite experience with forced induction. . . pump e85 and about 800whp...no alky...it's awesome. I will tell you, in the 800whp range, the extra weight doesn't stop the car from being completely ridiculous.
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 12:00 AM
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I can ask our shop what they think about making that drive after the install without a tune and see what they think. I know there is a fine line of “could you” and “should you” in this scenario though. I’d definitely want to know both before I committed to the install and made the drive.
I'd really appreciate it! It'd be nice to have a second opinion. I'm more worried about leaning it out. I'm not changing any fuel system stuff or injectors.
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 12:05 AM
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I'd really appreciate it! It'd be nice to have a second opinion. I'm more worried about leaning it out. I'm not changing any fuel system stuff or injectors.
Ill shoot a text in the morning and give our guy a call and see what he thinks. Should be a perfect guy to ask considering he just finished Sams car. Now keep in mind our guy has his ego very much in check when it comes to tuning, what’s safe and what could and should be done safely. He’s gonna lean towards the better safe than sorry unless you really push him and basically say “I hear what your saying and what’s safe” but could it be done? I’ll keep you posted.
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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I'm the same way. Nobody should want to risk their 15k engine. Safe is best
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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I'm the same way. Nobody should want to risk their 15k engine. Safe is best
so I just finished texting with our shop and he doesn’t think you’ll end up being able to get it started and keep it started after the install. That’s was his first response. So I threw the hypothetical “let say it did start and stay running” and it’s your customer who now had to get the car to you for the tune but he’s 3 hours away....how should/could he get the car to the shop?

First response was trailer it.

I pushed a little more and said “hypothetically” that’s not an option....could it be done and what problems could it make.

He said that yeah if it did start and stay running it could be done....but it really depends on the drivers self control on the way to never get into boost or lug it on the way.

So so it seems like the could/should question was answered in my view. It is possible if it starts and stays running as long as you carefully get it to the shop on the 3 hour ride. But not recommended unless it’s pretty much the only option. And care must be taken to do so without issues.

Hope that helps man, not saying that’s a definitive end all be all answer and maybe other tuners have a different opinion/suggestion but this is from a solid guy who just finished a similar build, he did my C6z as well and all you need to see is what my car made and sounds like and I fairly confident you’d agree he knows a thing or two about corvettes and blowers.

Let me know if I can help any other way! I appreciate you C7 broski’s letting a C6 guy into yalls section for a little bit lol.....When I return to my lands I’ll tell this story....the C7 guys are actually pretty cool! And maybe we should lighten up a little bit about their tail lights....🤣🇺🇸
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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Yeah I hope this helps other folks too. I will just spend the extra cash to trailer it down. Why mess around?

Oh, ew, you are a c6 guy? Conversation over! I wonder if its also because on the c6, you guys upgrade your injectors right from the get go, dont you?

I miss my c6 z06 so much, that 427..

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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Yeah I hope this helps other folks too. I will just spend the extra cash to trailer it down. Why mess around?

Oh, ew, you are a c6 guy? Conversation over! I wonder if its also because on the c6, you guys upgrade your injectors right from the get go, dont you?

I miss my c6 z06 so much, that 427..
That’s what I got from him, if you can trailer it....do it. If its literally your only option to drive it you could but be very careful.

I think that’s pretty standard practice on the C6z’s, mine already had some upgraded injectors....I’m mean not much bigger and they were fast injectors which suck....I’ve got injector dynamics 1300’s now......but my C6z is “slightly” modified lol
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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Well the car is up to 50k in damages. looks like a total loss. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. I stopped by a place where I bought my first z51 and looked at a couple cars. Decided to order a base model z06. Wasn't going to do it yet, but they said they had to order one any way so I did with no money down. Only options I got were the spectra grey wheels, the carbon flash jake logo on the hood, and the jake logo center caps. The car is blade silver with black interior. My worry is what the insurance will be now. Also looking at a 2007 z06 with 20k miles.
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by samwint77
Well the car is up to 50k in damages. looks like a total loss. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. I stopped by a place where I bought my first z51 and looked at a couple cars. Decided to order a base model z06. Wasn't going to do it yet, but they said they had to order one any way so I did with no money down. Only options I got were the spectra grey wheels, the carbon flash jake logo on the hood, and the jake logo center caps. The car is blade silver with black interior. My worry is what the insurance will be now. Also looking at a 2007 z06 with 20k miles.
buy the new Z. Don’t buy a 12 year old car.
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by samwint77
Well the car is up to 50k in damages. looks like a total loss. I'm trying to figure out what to do next. I stopped by a place where I bought my first z51 and looked at a couple cars. Decided to order a base model z06. Wasn't going to do it yet, but they said they had to order one any way so I did with no money down. Only options I got were the spectra grey wheels, the carbon flash jake logo on the hood, and the jake logo center caps. The car is blade silver with black interior. My worry is what the insurance will be now. Also looking at a 2007 z06 with 20k miles.
If your gonna spend C7z money just get a C6 ZR1 you’ll be happier in the end. If you don’t want to spend the 60k on the ZR1 just get the C6z you were talking about and with the left over money available you can do whatever you want to the car. I know this for certain....both cars I mentioned above will be 6 spd.....not sure on the C7z. Maybe take a ride in mine before you pull the trigger on the C7z......obviously my opinion is biased but the two friends I do have with C7z’s said if they did it again they would have got the C6 ZR1 instead. It’s only two people but that’s what I got.
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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Buy the new z. You'll have a better car and you'll have warranty. If you get the m7 you won't have any cooling issues tracking it. If you don't track it you won't have any cooling issues with either car. I have a 2015 and love it. I'm debating on getting a 19 or waiting and getting the second year of the mid engine car. As long as mine keeps running good I'll probably wait. Good luck either way. Sorry about the bad luck with your car. It sucks.
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Buy the new z. You'll have a better car and you'll have warranty. If you get the m7 you won't have any cooling issues tracking it. If you don't track it you won't have any cooling issues with either car. I have a 2015 and love it. I'm debating on getting a 19 or waiting and getting the second year of the mid engine car. As long as mine keeps running good I'll probably wait. Good luck either way. Sorry about the bad luck with your car. It sucks.
Better car? Better how? Very debatable and only an opinion. What’s isn’t opinion.....C7z is new/newer. Interior and all the tech **** if your into that is way better(comes with a weight cost though). Warranty. But Sam will have that warranty voided real quick like....so not sure that’s even a strong point or not. Another fact....the last C7 didn’t work out very well lol. Maybe not meant to be? Last fact and maybe the most important for Sam....the C7z is much easier to drive, it comes with all the “nanny” features to keep it out of a ditch and on the road.....as long as you don’t turn them off this time lol.

Decisions.....decision.....🤔 either way you’ll have another bad *** corvette! I think we’d all agree on that.🇺🇸
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Better car? Better how? Very debatable and only an opinion. What’s isn’t opinion.....C7z is new/newer. Interior and all the tech **** if your into that is way better(comes with a weight cost though). Warranty. But Sam will have that warranty voided real quick like....so not sure that’s even a strong point or not. Another fact....the last C7 didn’t work out very well lol. Maybe not meant to be? Last fact and maybe the most important for Sam....the C7z is much easier to drive, it comes with all the “nanny” features to keep it out of a ditch and on the road.....as long as you don’t turn them off this time lol.

Decisions.....decision.....🤔 either way you’ll have another bad *** corvette! I think we’d all agree on that.🇺🇸
Lol, you SOB! I'm really considering getting a base z51 to put all my stuff on. Like 2018 since I don't think they can tune the 2019's yet. Plus they have some better tire options. which i may need......
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Glad to see you getting back into a vette! So..... what are you gonna do with that heartbeat in the wrecked car...?

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Lol, you SOB! I'm really considering getting a base z51 to put all my stuff on. Like 2018 since I don't think they can tune the 2019's yet. Plus they have some better tire options. which i may need......
Thats probably the smoothest path considering all the parts you already have, just get a manual this time😃 or one of those Carbon C7....those are cool

maybe try and drive a C6 ZR1 though...before you make any final decision🤔
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Lol, you SOB! I'm really considering getting a base z51 to put all my stuff on. Like 2018 since I don't think they can tune the 2019's yet. Plus they have some better tire options. which i may need......
Was your original Vette a Z51. I just realized that you have to be careful about the pulley system because our cars have different configurations - Wet sump vs dry sump.

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Thats probably the smoothest path considering all the parts you already have, just get a manual this time😃 or one of those Carbon C7....those are cool

maybe try and drive a C6 ZR1 though...before you make any final decision🤔
actually looking at a lightly used 2017 z06. If I pick that up i'll sell my stuff I had on the grandsport.
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Was your original Vette a Z51. I just realized that you have to be careful about the pulley system because our cars have different configurations - Wet sump vs dry sump.
My first vette was a z51, the second one was a grandsport which had all the parts on it.
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