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Exige S 260 interior:
Lotus Exige S 260 Coupe $74,950
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YOU stated there is not a direct correlation between the 911's MSRP and the quality of the interior, compared to the Corvette. In my opinion, they are competitors and can/should be compared, $ for $.
The Lotus is an entirely different animal, and folks who go that route are generally not in the market for the 'vette or Carerra.
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That there is no "MSRP-to-interior quality" formula.
Two entirely different concepts; MSRP-to-interior quality, and "competitors".
And I did not draw any correlation between the 911's interior quality/MSRP as compared to the Vette. As a matter of fact, I have said that there is no correlation between MSRP and interior quality, using the Exige as an example. Your premise is that there is a correlation between MSRP and interior quality, and I'm saying there isn't. A clear distinction.
And I did not draw any correlation between the 911's interior quality/MSRP as compared to the Vette. As a matter of fact, I have said that there is no correlation between MSRP and interior quality, using the Exige as an example. Your premise is that there is a correlation between MSRP and interior quality, and I'm saying there isn't. A clear distinction.
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That there is no "MSRP-to-interior quality" formula.
Two entirely different concepts; MSRP-to-interior quality, and "competitors".
And I did not draw any correlation between the 911's interior quality/MSRP as compared to the Vette. As a matter of fact, I have said that there is no correlation between MSRP and interior quality, using the Exige as an example. Your premise is that there is a correlation between MSRP and interior quality, and I'm saying there isn't. A clear distinction.
Two entirely different concepts; MSRP-to-interior quality, and "competitors".
And I did not draw any correlation between the 911's interior quality/MSRP as compared to the Vette. As a matter of fact, I have said that there is no correlation between MSRP and interior quality, using the Exige as an example. Your premise is that there is a correlation between MSRP and interior quality, and I'm saying there isn't. A clear distinction.
The comment was made earlier about the Corvette's interior compared to the 911, and the cost relationship between the two. Then you jumped in tossing hand-grenades.
I agree with goatts: you would argue black vs. white.
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And there have been no grenades thrown. People here opine that the more expensive 911 should have a nice interior because of it's MSRP, but fail to offer any specifics regarding the correlation between the two.
As for Porsche, a large portion of the MSRP reflects what the car can command from the market; there is a significant profit margin dialed into the MSRP. Many people here confuse the profit margin with cost of materials.
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And there have been no grenades thrown. People here opine that the more expensive 911 should have a nice interior because of it's MSRP, but fail to offer any specifics regarding the correlation between the two.
As for Porsche, a large portion of the MSRP reflects what the car can command from the market; there is a significant profit margin dialed into the MSRP. Many people here confuse the profit margin with cost of materials.
As for Porsche, a large portion of the MSRP reflects what the car can command from the market; there is a significant profit margin dialed into the MSRP. Many people here confuse the profit margin with cost of materials.
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1. How much more does stuff Y cost than stuff X?
2. Does "stuff" alone define a "higher quality interior"? Or does design, fit, finish, art, durability and ergonimics also play a role in quality?
A manufacturer (Porsche for example), may be able to design and build an interior that costs them the same as it costs GM to design and build the same interior, but Porsche would be able to charge much more for it (profit margin) than GM. Or it may cost Porsche 5% more in design and manufacturing investments for their interiors versus GM, but Porsche can charge (and get) 20% more (profit margin) for it than GM. Some here attribute the entire 20% to the cost of actually designing and building the interior, when (in the case that I offered) it would in fact only be a 5% difference. I've made up the numbers but the concept and ratios apply regardless of the actual values. The Lotus S 260 is a perfect example of how you can not assign an "interior quality" based on an MSRP.
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Ok. In general, high end cars will all have expensive interiors. But the track versions of these cars will be stripped to save weight. Less is more. Porsche and Ferrari both do it (RS has pull strap on door and Ferrari removes the carpet). The Lotus you refer to is a track oriented car. I should not be having to explain this to you.
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Ok. In general, high end cars will all have expensive interiors. But the track versions of these cars will be stripped to save weight. Less is more. Porsche and Ferrari both do it (RS has pull strap on door and Ferrari removes the carpet). The Lotus you refer to is a track oriented car. I should not be having to explain this to you.
And the RS is a perfect example of a "high end" car (high MSRP) that has a lower quality interior; meaning that, like the Lotus example, one can not draw interior conclusions based on MSRP.
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What Porsche takes out of the RS in interior appointments is put back in, plus a lot more, by their Renn Sport treatment. You certainly knew that, but if you didn't, maybe you do now.
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1. How much more does stuff Y cost than stuff X?
2. Does "stuff" alone define a "higher quality interior"? Or does design, fit, finish, art, durability and ergonimics also play a role in quality?
A manufacturer (Porsche for example), may be able to design and build an interior that costs them the same as it costs GM to design and build the same interior, but Porsche would be able to charge much more for it (profit margin) than GM. Or it may cost Porsche 5% more in design and manufacturing investments for their interiors versus GM, but Porsche can charge (and get) 20% more (profit margin) for it than GM. Some here attribute the entire 20% to the cost of actually designing and building the interior, when (in the case that I offered) it would in fact only be a 5% difference. I've made up the numbers but the concept and ratios apply regardless of the actual values. The Lotus S 260 is a perfect example of how you can not assign an "interior quality" based on an MSRP.
2. Does "stuff" alone define a "higher quality interior"? Or does design, fit, finish, art, durability and ergonimics also play a role in quality?
A manufacturer (Porsche for example), may be able to design and build an interior that costs them the same as it costs GM to design and build the same interior, but Porsche would be able to charge much more for it (profit margin) than GM. Or it may cost Porsche 5% more in design and manufacturing investments for their interiors versus GM, but Porsche can charge (and get) 20% more (profit margin) for it than GM. Some here attribute the entire 20% to the cost of actually designing and building the interior, when (in the case that I offered) it would in fact only be a 5% difference. I've made up the numbers but the concept and ratios apply regardless of the actual values. The Lotus S 260 is a perfect example of how you can not assign an "interior quality" based on an MSRP.
may be able to design and build an interior that costs them the same as it costs GM to design and build the same interior
Or it may cost Porsche 5% more in design and manufacturing investments for their interiors versus GM, but Porsche can charge (and get) 20% more (profit margin) for it than GM
I agree with you that there is a wide band of parameters leading to an MSRP. This withstanding and with replacement costs in hand, it is hard for me to see that Porsche pays less for interiors and charges more...
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