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I'm not interested in getting in the middle of the rest of your post, only the comment on your quote above. Not every car manufacturer delivers the best new/replacement vehicles they are capable of. Porsche has a long term plan that is designed to release changes incrementally. The 991 S is certainly no the best they can currently do. They don't sit around waiting for some yet to be invented technology or engineering idea to pop into their heads, hoping this technology/idea comes to fruition before it's time to release the next model change.

 

Comparing that to the C7 isn't feasible the technology exists its being implemented into cars within the 35k price range at GM it will be over a year old when the C7 is released...

LCDs are not Euro Wuss DON'T it's called technology and honestly implying progress on a technological front somehow makes it "Euro or Wussy" sounds uneducated and like you want the car to not have features because "New Fangled Technology is for sissies Commies and Yankees!'

How about we just turn this thing into the Mad Max mobile and get a beer can cooler and call it a day would that make some of you happy?

It's a cheap sports car and its competition is starting to release their vehicles at the 60k range while offering more the V included... If you want to appeal to the youth give us what we can at least get elsewhere from 4 auto companies at around the same price within 10k...

ESPECIALLY when you have existing technology being put into 35k automobiles that crush the competitions interiors

 

Oh, so the new 911 is NOT better than the car it replaces as Porsche themselves keeps trying to tell us in every single ad that they print?

And you also believe that they intentionally held back on their $96k+ (base price) car and NOT give their customers all that they can give for that price?
Wow, yet another reason not to buy the new 'Super Beetle' I suppose LOL.

 

I honestly can't figure out what you're trying to say as it relates to my post. Maybe some punctuation would help.

 

Define "better".

Additionally, you used the word "best", not "better"

The 991 S MSRP does not represent a direct correlation to what it cost Porsche to design and produce the car. The MSRP simply reflects the cost to produce the car plus what it costs someone to enter the game; Porsche has a large profit margin built into the MSRP because that's what the car can command. The 991 S costs what it does because people are willing to pay that much for it. You and some others here seem to always look for a direct correlation between either MSRP and performance, MSRP and quality, or both. It doesn't always work that way.

 

I edited my post it was in relation to a comment quoted on this same page from DON'T saying he hopes they don't "sissify his good ol American Sports Car"

Sounds like a trailer from the movie Deliverance or a damn ROTC recruitment Ad

 

Are we still discussing the fate of a 60 year old legend as depending on LEDs and so called interior technology advancements?

 

Here are my posts to you.

Nothing disrespectful at all; I just pointed out a few incorrect statements you made in some prior posts. Also, you posted an opinion that the Corvette is not worth buying, so I recommended you move on, e.g. go buy another car that fits your ideas of being a worthy car.

Again, none of us, including you, know what the C7 is or will be, but you state you are “so underwhelmed” by it.

I hope you keep posting, and learning along with the rest of us.

Finally, I doubt that GM leadership believes they will sell many new Corvettes to 25 year old buyers. If they start to move the average age down by 3 to 5 years over the next five years they would be elated.

 

It looks as though some are.

 

Right on than obviously I misread your intentions.

As for the Corvette its going to persist no matter if they melt Barbie Dolls and Creepy Crawler Plastic and mold it with a waffle iron via Chuck Taylor.

What I'm saying is they could be losing out on alot of people who want to purchase the vehicle based on being a "full package" by simply not including existing GM technology that is being installed into cars nearly half its base price when the Tech will be over a year old.

Perhaps LCD would look cheap and out of place if styled in a sporty sense but honestly I think they have enough people working on the design to strip down the CUE and tailor it to a Corvette while not having to raise the price more than 5k. What we don't need is a buzzer going off because I got to drunk to stay awake on in a 400+ horsepower car that could afford me a down payment on a new Condo.

I really doubt considering most of the competitive cars are hovering around 60 that it will make a deal as long as its MSRP is nowhere above 60k it should be fine and honestly Corvette buyers are not going to go elsewhere over a 10k price hike.

People looking for more options will however in my opinion at least ones with a similiar mindset as me. I'm leaning heavily towards a GT500 next spring but hopefully speaking with some people as more info comes out and seeing it up close at the Charity Gala next year will convince me otherwise.

If indeed GM offers a family discount on the C7 out of the gate I could throw those into tuning upgrades from Hennessy and a new Corsa Exhaust and still not even hit 70k while running a 650HP C7

 

To be fair and realistic. I think no car in the world really has an assured future by inertia. Corvette has earned its place in the market by doing good things or otherwise getting things mostly right.

I would really like to better understand what it is meant by new technology and full package.

Maybe, maybe not. By now it is clear that your preferences lays in the interior (and this is an interior thread) so you are wishfully saying "why not add 5K for a CUE" which taken per se seems a downright improvement. Let's step back or up for a second and let's say I am the sport type and I really want the C7 to stop/decellerate 30ft/faster than the C6. Let's say this means 5K ceramic brakes.
Question: facts and history on hand how many more buyers are going to pay that extra 5K for an interior technology item vs a sports improvement item on a sports car?


truth of the matter is Corvette/GM has always been explicit on who their target competition is for the base coupe: Ferrari entry level and Porsche 911. Both are considerably over 60K. I think the wishfull desire to pit cayman's, M3s, 63AMGs against a corvette did not bring the desired results. At least not on the performance level?

Corvette starts at 49K and goes to 138K. Aren't there enough options??

 

Well put post as far as technology options I would like a digital speedometer HUD like the CUE offers outside of that a basic slightly upgraded Nav package. No need to install the whole CUE into a Corvette although that would be awesome.

That's the thing obviously your listening to the opinions of a guy who would gladly wait til next fall and purchase a Z06 but it loses its appeal when it will be replaced by a new generation C7.

As for performance you bring up a VERY valid point if they are sacrificing performance by putting in a CUE like HUD stick to basic nav and a digital speedometer and I would be thrilled better quality leather would be nice as well

 

Yeah, I found that a bit puzzling as well.
What exactly does he find so underwhelming about it?
It's interior that none of us has even seen yet?
It's engine that none of us know the size of or what it's exact power ratings are?
It's performance figures that no one has track tested yet?
The artist renderings, the 'Jalopnik interpretations' of what they supposedly saw in person or even some test mules completely covered in canvas/rubber/plastic?

Based on that logic, I guess I'm so underwhelmed by the 2025 Corvette as well.

 

How can you be so underwhelmed by a car you have NEVER seen and don't know the specifications? Again, why do YOU think that their will not be a C7 Z06?

Do you know what a HUD is? Does Porsche have one? How about Ferrari? No they don't but the Corvette does. Why do you care if it is LCD, LED, or LASER, or magic pixie dust. By the way, it is where certain information is projected onto the inside of the windshield on the lower edge of yor vision when you are looking "heads up" at the road. It is so you do not have to look away from the road to see the information. It has nothing to do with touchscreen displays in the center stack or a reconfigurable gauge cluster.

 

Plenty of "legendary" products have died when they stopped meeting market requirements.

Makes it tough on the Vette design team but that's why they're paid the big bucks. Take my "ideal" Vette -- a 2,900 lb 450 HP C5 in 7/8 size with a very plain but elegant interior (kinda like what's in there already) but with somewhat better materials and with superb, supportive, CLOTH (Alcantara OK but $$$$?) seats (like my '93 C4 -- best seats I ever had). Great big easy to read analog gauges; no NAVI or other such stuff (HUD OK but simple and cheap).

Great American sports car? Yeah, but the thing would not sell (even to me since I only buy used).

So you can book it -- the C7 will have a major upgrade in most interior features, lots of "wow" factor, improved materials and better fit and finish, but still short of Porsche/Audi standards. This shortfall will be noticeable to the nitpicker but will not hurt sales at all. Importantly, expect one-size-fits-all seats which will look nice but leave the performance enthusiast a bit disappointed.

 

the interior of the new 911 really really impresses me, and i hope it isn't too late to insure the c7 is comparable .

i must admit when i drive my c6 i'm not really conscience of the interior- just road and speed.

 

No way to upgrade the interior and keep the vette in it's current price range.

The vette is a world class sports car due to it's performance/handling.

Seats are fine unless you track it.

Supportive seats will be uncomfortable for heavy guys/gals so they need to be an option and not standard.

An upgraded interior should be an option also so that those of us who don't care don't have to pay for it. The existing interior is fine with me.

Exterior styling should be striking.

 

The 911 costs twice as much as the vette so I guess it does have a nicer interior.

 

Agree here 100%.