In addition to what LS1LT1 posted above, do you know how to read a financial statement, and UNDERSTAND it? I guess not, based on your post.

Since you don't think a Corvette is worth buying, move on Junior! A million and a half of us believe it is.

 

No but I do know GM is the first American Auto Company in history to have to take a government bailout to stay afloat and I have immediate family working for them so yes I'd say I have a very "basic" understanding of how it's doing as a company especially in relation to it cutting back on its fleet with Cadillac and its boot licking attitude towards fuel economy to please Washington and present a good image.

Also very mature post calling me junior obviously the company has seen finer moments and this car isn't stacking up anyone that thinks a base C7 can take a 2013 GT500 is being unrealistic and its interior in the C6 is inferior in itself. Add in the Viper and C63 in addition to its own V and it practically cant even hang within the top 5 cars to buy within that price range unless ofcourse your going for a nostalgia brand loyalty buy in my opinion.

If they want to make the Corvette a Halo car treat it like a Halo car otherwise just label it "The Trailer Trash Mercedes" and be done with it

 

Wrong son. Try Chrysler in 1979 for beginners.

 

Once again you've made this reference to "bowing down" to liberal government's fuel economy demands but I find that just a little puzzling considering that GM still produces vehicles such as the Corvette ZR1, Camaro SS and ZL1 and Cadillac CTS-V (with MORE on the way), never mind all of the full size trucks as well.
Seems to me that if they were cowering or living in fear as you seem to imply that those vehicles COULD NEVER exist.
Try again on that one dude.






Interesting that you'd say that because even Mercedes (and BMW) builds/sell cars for the 'budget minded'.
The REAL 'Trailer Trash Mercedes':
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...C/model-C250WZ
You give THEM a free pass on keeping costs down yet you won't give the same courtesy to GM/Chevrolet.
Biased much?

 

You bring up a valid point as a company overall designing the Corvette with fuel econ in mind over performance is stupid though. Anyone buying a Vette that needs to save the extra 5 dollars at the pump to hit up Target shouldn't be buying a sports car in my opinion

As for GM lets not forget the government owns a sizeable stock in the company and its affecting production ideas at least on a base level. That or they are just grasping at straws on why the car won't be able to perform in its base form...

Despite all the things we can speculate on one thing we can agree on is that for many prospective buyers the appeal of owning a Z06 C6 Vette goes down when a new generation is released. Consider that and the fact that the new base Corvette cannot compete and your looking at a line that's inferior performance and just lost serious appeal in its Z06 and ZR1 as it's "The old model" if your looking at a Viper with more HP and a GT500 with an equal interior at 650HP than it's just not that exciting of a release hell its not even really GM's flagship car around the 60k range anymore...

Still why not release a Z06 in general or at least offer more interior options for people who don't work at Burger King or honestly need to hold back 10k as the deciding factor on if they will purchase a brand new sports car.


If GMs doing so damn well along with Corvette why can't they keep the Z06 going and at least compete against the Cobra?

 

I think a lot of people are missing what GM is trying to do with the next generation corvette. They are trying to appeal to "everyone". The biggest turnoff to "everyone" has been the interior, and there's no getting around the fact that potential buyers took other cars over the c6 because of the interior.
I love the c6. I love sitting in the c6 because it's an awesome car, but I want to love sitting in the cabin because it's a nice cabin, not because of the car itself. The idea of enjoying the inside of your car because it's good would sell the corvette like hotcakes, because aside from good but still low fuel economy (not everyone drives only on the highway, with all this 30 mpg talk like that 15 city doesn't exist at all is foolish) that's really the only flaw the car has.
The idea of giving it that brilliant ATS interior would be great, as long as the car stays relatively cheap (-56k with the better selling auto). A big goal is to try to keep a more "refined" and advanced corvette not get too much above the current 51k base price, which sadly I think wouldn't be possible, but I'm hoping GM surprises us.

 

I agree as for pricing I say if it really comes down price it near 60 and put the ATS interior in or at least an LCD interface with bare basic apps nav interface/dvd/mp3 that alone would be fine

 

Which person at GM said they would not offer a Z06? You're going off on GM because of what someone on the internet speculated?

They have several interior options. They will have several interior options on the new car.

Did they upgrade the interior from the C3 to the C4? Yes. Did they upgrade the interior C4 to C5? Yes. C5 to C6? Yes. So you can fully expect them to do the same going to the C7.

 

Honestly it would still sell as well at 60 with a far better cabin, but I'm sure they're still trying to keep costs down for the sake of corvette tradition. GM realizes that crap it takes for the interior looking not bad, but cheap. It's very easy to use but a mass of useless buttons on leather sells better than simplicity on yucky plastic. This corvette is aiming appeal to more people on interior/fuel economy, as the c6 has performance pretty much perfected for a base car already.

 

Agreed 10K isn't going to be the deciding factor Corvette tradition withstanding there is no point in withholding cabin technology that is being put in a 35k vehicle.

 

If I recall correctly, the c6 was cheaper than the c5 when it came out. If GM addresses the interior issue, that would be impossible to duplicate with the c7, they won't get any significant profit. It's not a matter of putting a better interior from a cheaper car into a more expensive car, it's the fact that they can charge you more for it because, well, they just can. Here's the hoping that GM will keep the base price low but make the interior a 50k+ car with performance rivaling R8s truly deserves.

 

BUTTONS!!! i love the button doors, love the push button start,love the whole interior, i paid for a car that can run 198mph and zero 2 sixty in 3.6esh seconds. from the showroom floor,price cant be beat,can be serviced for a song compared to other car in our class. yes, we love our american corvette and i hope and pray that GM never turns the corvette in any form into a snobby wussyfied euro mobile sorry everybody, ok seats can be better, but if gm gives what everybody on this forum wants, base sticker price will start at 75k.

 

Perhaps but the competition is stepping up with comparably priced Halo cars within 10k of the Corvette.

You would think they would throw in the one feature that makes their luxury or at least technologically inferior brand stand out into a new Corvette but if they are that concerned on maximizing profit that they are willing to throw in a comparable interior that a Cobalt or Mazda 3 has than I see that as a reason to purchase elsewhere as will alot of people considering they can throw down an extra 10k finance it and walk out of the dealership with a car that would make the base C7 eat dust while giving them the same interior quality and Nav Package

 

Well said amigo. Well said indeed.

 

lol that is very true, about the mazda 3 comparison. xD I love my c6 but my friend's unoptioned cayman s, which is a great car as is, has an interior the c6 would kill for. I'dve gladly spent a good deal extra making the cabin a finer place to be. The cayman is competitively priced to the corvette, and although it is slightly slower (only slightly though), the less cheap and more sensible cabin makes for a better overall ownership experience. A shame about the ownership cost of those things though.

 

So do it! There are at least five prominent aftermarket vendors that will turn the C6 interior into whatever you want it to be.

 

IMHO the word luxury with all its derivatives and forms should be banned from the Corvette vocabulary.

Repeat after me: sport, sport, SPORT darn it!!

 

CORVETTE is and was meant to be a SPORTS car not a LUXURY SPORTS CAR, that is why you have the XLR.

 

I don't care if you want to call it a spaceship it's performance numbers don't match up to anything within 10k of it north or south... Holding back on interior options is ignorant and honestly how many of you are even planning on purchasing this vehicle next year to begin with at release or are looking to put down a deposit after you see it at the Detroit Auto Show Charity Gala next year?

Most of you guys seem to be enthusiasts living in a different era and at least one of you has been extremely disrespectful towards my age when the reality is I'm getting a commission check just shy of 30k from a company based out of Chicago next month... I'm a young business owner and a successful traveler and prospective buyer and would appreciate being treated with some respect on these forums Jack Hall your starting to get personally insulting over a car and honestly it says alot about your maturity regarding the subject matter.

Stop acting like tenure on a forum means something or raises the importance of your opinion when you have family working in engineering at GM and showing up with a pre production ZR1 like I experienced at my grandparents house with a diagnostic laptop hooked up to it or own a share in your own company that nets you 40-50k a year minimum at 25 you can lecture me or call me "Junior" until than realize I'm nothing more than a prospective buyer with an opinion who's bringing up cold hard facts regarding comparably priced vehicles and lay off the veiled insults if your value you age and maturity so very much...

I'm so underwhelmed by the C7 I may just go for a GT500 next Spring and forego the Family First discount... hopefully you guys aren't a good example of the thinking behind the design of this vehicle in general... I would go for a Z06 but lets be honest it loses its appeal when a new generation of the vehicle is released considerably for alot of people me included...

LCD HUDs should not be considered Cavier and Diamonds in 2013 especially when your loading a 35k Cadillac with a new system and it will be over a year old...

Either way guys I'm going to continue posting my opinions and the facts surrounding what else is out there and what prospective young buyers with the cash available to make a purchase next Fall are really thinking (You know since they are supposed to be tailoring this car to appeal to us)

Obviously there are alot of options out there right now within 10k of the Corvette and if it doesn't come out swinging its going to lower the appeal of a Z06 while failing to compete with a GT500 for interior design and performance a ZL1 for sheer horsepower a CTS-V for overall performance and interior compete it should admirably against the C63 AMG while failing to match up against its interior and lets not forget the Viper we know so little about.

Long story short young buyers who don't give a damn about what some dude did with a C5 when our parents were our age and don't take it into consideration when making a purchase have lots of options... my opinion stands put in something comparable to a 35k "Luxury" car in regards to appearance on the HUD and up the price point by about 5k. Or just leave it the same and let our generation come to terms that 50k for a sports car doesn't buy you an overall package from GM and we should go get a V if were that desperate to buy their cars and want something nice from the ground up...

 

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about or trying to say but I think you might be implying that GM has a certain 'future responsibility' to C6 Z06 (or even ZR1) owners and that they should NOT release a strong performing base C7 Corvette in order to appease them?
Let me ask you something, does Porsche give a flying f*<k about 2006 911 Turbo owners when they bring out a brand new, potent 911 Carrera S that's superior to the one that it replaces?
EVERY carmaker delivers the best new/replacement vehicles that they're capable of regardless of what the outgoing models did or didn't do.
In my opinion you're just not making much sense with this 'base C7 versus C6 Z06' stuff.






Maybe they WILL keep it going, no one knows for sure.
And for your information, there is a good chance that the base Corvette C7 will run right along side of a (more costly) 2013 Mustang GT500. It might give up a couple of tenths in straight line acceleration and even 5+mph in all out top speed but around a road course, stopping distances, overall handling dynamics etc it will likely be right there.
And again, the base C7 will likely MSRP for less than a base GT500 ($54k).
I think what you might be trying to say is, "hey, why don't they raise the base C7's price and just give it lots more power"?
Well, that's an option as well of course.
But this is a competitive marketplace and price IS still important to buyers.
Would you pay $75k for a base Corvette?
Just because Corvette owners want to keep the base car around $50k doesn't make them, as you say, trailer trash rednecks.
If that were true, then the Porsche 911 buyer must also be a trailer trash redneck who sells beer cans and shops at Target (your words, not mine) as well because he's also 'slumming it' and didn't buy a Ferrari 458, right?
Almost EVERYONE chooses/seeks some form of value when making a purchase.