New c4 info??
Melting Slicks
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I respectfully disagree, the Base Corvette doesn't have to at all. The Base C6 and soon Base C7 are in a completely different area. They compete with a much different demographic of cars...
As a matter of fact, lets just see what GM thinks the Base C6 competes with...
http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
No GTR there...
The Z cars are the super car fighters.
Z06 - http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
ZR1 - http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
As a matter of fact, lets just see what GM thinks the Base C6 competes with...
http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
No GTR there...
The Z cars are the super car fighters.
Z06 - http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
ZR1 - http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013
Melting Slicks
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The brand new C7 SHOULD compete with the older platform R35 GT-R in the same manner a C6 ZO6 competes with the GT-R. I suspect the next generation GT-R will out perform the base C7 until the ZR1 is introduced.
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My expectation's are a bit more realstic than a ZR1 going 240MPH+ or a base car for 60k beating a 90k+ GTR.
I am a fan of the corvette and would drop my jaw to the foor in joy if it was all true, but there is a thing called real life and even with out going that far. I think most will end up likeing it.
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Anyone who thinks the base C7 is going to compete with the C6z, is dreaming. It might take 3-4 years worth of upgrades and tweaks before that will happen, if at all.
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Drifting
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The bottom line is so many want CF, AWD, 600hp+ etc on a Corvette yet the reality is people buy what they can afford. If the standard C7 did everything desired on this forum, much fewer would be sold due to added cost. For example, the C6 has awesome performance if you buy a Z06 or ZR1 but the sales of those are much less than a standard GS etc. Most people are not willling to pay for the added performance.
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Even putting aside the surprising claims (e.g., 2+2) and mysterious source (“Corvette insider”), some things seem a bit inconsistent and/or unlikely to me. For example:
1.If the base C7 has DOHC (!) with VVT, I don’t think it would need 6.2 L even for 530 hp, and I think a 100-hp increase relative to the base C6 is unlikely. Also, with this major engine change, would it still have the LS3 bore & stroke?
2.Reporting of OEM-test 0-60 times at this stage smells fishy.
3.“I was there and I was shocked by how easily it handled the C6 Z06” sounds very fishy (this doesn’t sound like an OEM test).
4.The last ZR1 paragraph (complete with nano steel and Bugatti comparison) sounds like something a performance car enthusiast would write and not the result of OEM testing.
1.If the base C7 has DOHC (!) with VVT, I don’t think it would need 6.2 L even for 530 hp, and I think a 100-hp increase relative to the base C6 is unlikely. Also, with this major engine change, would it still have the LS3 bore & stroke?
2.Reporting of OEM-test 0-60 times at this stage smells fishy.
3.“I was there and I was shocked by how easily it handled the C6 Z06” sounds very fishy (this doesn’t sound like an OEM test).
4.The last ZR1 paragraph (complete with nano steel and Bugatti comparison) sounds like something a performance car enthusiast would write and not the result of OEM testing.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Cali for ya Republic
Too true. And as others have stated, the C6 wasn't comparable to the C5z for several years. It required an even bigger engine, and even more hp than what the base c6 originally came with. Then it took the GS to out-handle it.
Anyone who thinks the base C7 is going to compete with the C6z, is dreaming. It might take 3-4 years worth of upgrades and tweaks before that will happen, if at all.
Anyone who thinks the base C7 is going to compete with the C6z, is dreaming. It might take 3-4 years worth of upgrades and tweaks before that will happen, if at all.
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Team Owner
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And it remains to be seen when the Corvette will get the DCT.
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I also think DCT + the third gen magnetic suspension would leave all C6s in the dust at a twisty track. DCT is just a speculation, and to be realistic, will not happen at least immediately. That said, the magnetic suspension will wither be standard or option, and I'm looking forward to its first test results from the magazines!
Melting Slicks
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Where is Guibo on this 2 plus 2 rumor? Why would Bob Lutz say the C7 was so "radically different"? Why does it look very roomy behind the driver of the camo cars? They did extend the wheelbase on the mules.
The 4 seat Panamera does sell well and the 911 has extra seats and a motor behind the driver.
This 4 seater stuff is truly a wild rumor and let us not forget the 1963 Stingray 4 seater concept.
I just spent a couple of hours looking at C6s and wondering where those extra seats could go...
The 4 seat Panamera does sell well and the 911 has extra seats and a motor behind the driver.
This 4 seater stuff is truly a wild rumor and let us not forget the 1963 Stingray 4 seater concept.
I just spent a couple of hours looking at C6s and wondering where those extra seats could go...
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As I stated before, this was passed along to me and I am sharing it as I thought it was interesting. I am in no way implying this is fact
Melting Slicks
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I agree to disagree. But it's wrong to attribute my opinion to wishful thinking. If I buy the C7, it will be the ZR1.
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I think the original post was copied from another site by the OP, so they were not his words. I could be wrong, but that's they way I took it.
Melting Slicks
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I would love to see a 2+2 that is ascetically correct and a base car that could run with the Z car . Possibly too good to be true?
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