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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
So 11 pages and 205 posts later ................... The price is ? .........
Check with your local dealer or the GM website when GM releases official pricing.

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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
It will be interesting to see how the C7 tracks against the 458. The 458 has been soundy beaten on the track by C6 Z-06 and ZR1. I doubt the C7 will match the 458 in the standing 1/4. But with its excellent torque, e-diff and 3rd gen mag suspension, it may track fairly competively with the 458.

Will be fun to see how she does.






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Close enough considering the 458 lists at $230K.
True LOL, but that's only what it lists for, those things are still selling for well over $290k!
Even some used ones are listed for over $260k.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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I may have to save a little longer before making the leap.
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2013 1LT is $49,600. The new Vette should cost 52,000 if they want a marginal increase in price. So I bet it will be 53k.

The problem is that nobody pays MSRP for the current Vette so the 1LT is really more like 45K.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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If even 59k to start it is still a steal. Good Lord folks, if even 450 HP look at what you are getting. Aluminum frame, carbon fiber hood / roof, Brembo brakes, etc., probably a Z51 3LT with leather, carbon fiber interior components, heated & cooled seats, etc. is probably around 70k to 75k.

Look at a Porsche Carrera S, 400 HP, not quite up to par with the C7.

Starts at $98,900!!! Oh, you want real leather seats, check the option box, leather on the dash, check another box, real aluminum trim, check another box, upgraded brakes, yep, check another box. I went to the Porsche website, checked the boxes to match what I would think a Z51 3LT would be...........so many boxes to check I stopped counting a about 125k! And you still have just 400 HP.

Whiners & posers please leave the room!
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Corvette prices have been a joke for years. The 1Lt I bought in '08 stickered at 50K and I paid 41K. They can base them at 53,55, or 59 then discount them 10-15 grand to sell. Stupid.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DRC
If even 59k to start it is still a steal. Good Lord folks, if even 450 HP look at what you are getting. Aluminum frame, carbon fiber hood / roof, Brembo brakes, etc., probably a Z51 3LT with leather, carbon fiber interior components, heated & cooled seats, etc. is probably around 70k to 75k.

Look at a Porsche Carrera S, 400 HP, not quite up to par with the C7.

Starts at $98,900!!! Oh, you want real leather seats, check the option box, leather on the dash, check another box, real aluminum trim, check another box, upgraded brakes, yep, check another box. I went to the Porsche website, checked the boxes to match what I would think a Z51 3LT would be...........so many boxes to check I stopped counting a about 125k! And you still have just 400 HP.

Whiners & posers please leave the room!
If you are using HP as the sole basis of your comaprison, Why does the GT500 have 200hp more for about the same price???
Thats 2-0-0.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
If you are using HP as the sole basis of your comaprison, Why does the GT500 have 200hp more for about the same price???
Thats 2-0-0.
I am comparing two true sports cars, Vette & Porsche. Yes, the Mustang GT 500 is big HP for about the same $, so is the ZL1 Camaro, but those are heavy muscle cars, handle well, pretty cool for the money, but no match on a road course for a C7 or a Porsche 911.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
If you are using HP as the sole basis of your comaprison, Why does the GT500 have 200hp more for about the same price???
Thats 2-0-0.
And the GT500 is fine if brute force is all that you're after. The GT500 is an impressive car, no doubt, and a good value at $55K.

But given the choice of a 662 HP Mustang or a 450HP Corvette at the same price, I will take the Corvette everyday. It is simply a car I like better.
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Originally Posted by Gadfly
Just reading Mt, they set estimated base at 59k....which is about 10k too much... thoughts?
It's GM's response to all those comments. "The seats suck", "the interior is sub-par", etc.

You want all of that fixed? PAY FOR IT. There's a reason that Porsches cost what they cost.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Bell
It's GM's response to all those comments. "The seats suck", "the interior is sub-par", etc.

You want all of that fixed? PAY FOR IT. There's a reason that Porsches cost what they cost.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Bell
It's GM's response to all those comments. "The seats suck", "the interior is sub-par", etc.
You want all of that fixed? PAY FOR IT. There's a reason that Porsches cost what they cost.
Not exactly. The problem was with the content at the existing price. For what the msrp has been, quality should have been much better.
Price hikes have outstripped wages and (admittedly cooked) inflation numbers already.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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DRC---The Motor Trend article this month says that the base C7 has vinyl interior. Instead of raising the price to cover leather, they kept the price lower (bean counters again) but took something away. If you want leather you will have to check the box. Somewhat like a ceral box that is half full. Contents may settle in shipment. LOL.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Colorado C6
DRC---The Motor Trend article this month says that the base C7 has vinyl interior. Instead of raising the price to cover leather, they kept the price lower (bean counters again) but took something away. If you want leather you will have to check the box. Somewhat like a ceral box that is half full. Contents may settle in shipment. LOL.
Exactly, that is why I posted a C7 Z51 3LT is probably in the 70 to 75k range. That is a steal IMHO, a Porsche Carrera S starts at 99k, when you option it for real leather, etc. you get to about 125k quite easily.

GM gives you a choice to enter into a C7 probably in the low to mid 50's, and some people will be happy with that degree of technology & performance with a vinyl interior, then you upgrade from there.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sprtplt
Not exactly. The problem was with the content at the existing price. For what the msrp has been, quality should have been much better.
I agree.

I think people are a little shocked at how the pricing could turn out because the Vette has always lagged in content and overall quality so much that it's foreign for them to hear what actual legitimate prices for a proper and quality product are.

The C7 is what the Vette should have been for a long time - a complete car. Pricing would have been higher in the past if GM took the same approach then, but they chose not to because of the market they were catering to.

I think people need to adjust their mindset about what it means to offer the world's best pound for pound sports car; it goes beyond performance. The Vette is not a Cruze or Impala or Camaro, it is GM's flagship. Thus, pricing and positioning will reflect that.

The C7 is proof that GM can offer loads of content and quality at a reasonable price point. It could have been this way in the past had GM held themselves and the public held GM to higher standards.

I think people need to ask themselves why Porsche is able to charge twice as much for a similar product, while offering less performance at the same time? Love or hate Porsche, it is a fact. The perceived value, whether real or fake, their marketing and brand positioning has given them to ability to do so.

I'm not saying that the C7 should be priced at 100K because Porsche does it, but I think everyone saying that GM is going to lose customers if they bump the price is not looking at the bigger picture. People will pay for a quality product or what they perceive to be quality product. Porsche is a shinning example of this.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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It is simply that you get what you pay for depending on the market. That is if you want one when the demand is high the profit is high, if you want one when demand is low, the profit is low. You can buy C6 at good price for the buyer now. But you will pay top dollar for a C7 today.
Old Jan 28, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RC000E
People want Porsche interior, Aventador performance, 100k mile warranty...for 50k or they're PISSED...lol.
I want Corvette interior and Corvette performance for 50k or less. I could care less about Porshe this or Acentador that.

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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Thank you!

I love the folks comparing the base C7 with Z51 package, which then is no longer the base car, with GS pricing to justify the $60K price.

I am bookmarking this "great??" thread to see who is correct once GM announces the MSRP of the base C7 coupe. Arrogant *** that I am, I'll take my $53K as being a LOT closer than the 'mere' $60K (thus keeping out the riff-raff) being tossed about by the H-Rs.
Jack what your actually seeing is the excitement. Of the z51 package and how on the c7 it will contain many of the grand sport c6 features.

When I bought my c6 as a 2008 model ...the z51 was a 1500 dollar package....it did not include so many of the cool manual grand sport c6 features.

That is the reasoning to suggest the z51 on the c7 will be justifiably more in line with a grand sport c6 pric increase as compared to a c6 z51 which only added 1500 dollars.

Sure it would be great if the c7 z51 option was 1500 dollars but I don't believe that's logical....

Looking at what the c7 z51 involves I see its value as an option very close to what a grand sport c6 option costs today....
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Corvette prices have been a joke for years. The 1Lt I bought in '08 stickered at 50K and I paid 41K. They can base them at 53,55, or 59 then discount them 10-15 grand to sell. Stupid.
Thank you for input. With Fords what, everyone just pays sticker? And Dodges? And whatevers?
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Originally Posted by Caddylac10
I agree.

I think people are a little shocked at how the pricing could turn out because the Vette has always lagged in content and overall quality so much that it's foreign for them to hear what actual legitimate prices for a proper and quality product are.

The C7 is what the Vette should have been for a long time - a complete car. Pricing would have been higher in the past if GM took the same approach then, but they chose not to because of the market they were catering to.

I think people need to adjust their mindset about what it means to offer the world's best pound for pound sports car; it goes beyond performance. The Vette is not a Cruze or Impala or Camaro, it is GM's flagship. Thus, pricing and positioning will reflect that.

The C7 is proof that GM can offer loads of content and quality at a reasonable price point. It could have been this way in the past had GM held themselves and the public held GM to higher standards.

I think people need to ask themselves why Porsche is able to charge twice as much for a similar product, while offering less performance at the same time? Love or hate Porsche, it is a fact. The perceived value, whether real or fake, their marketing and brand positioning has given them to ability to do so.

I'm not saying that the C7 should be priced at 100K because Porsche does it, but I think everyone saying that GM is going to lose customers if they bump the price is not looking at the bigger picture. People will pay for a quality product or what they perceive to be quality product. Porsche is a shinning example of this.
Not this person. I can get a used C6 Z06 and a used C5 Z06 for the price of a C7 55-59k!! No thank you GM. To me the C6 was already a quality product! I dont care what the rest of the world thinks.



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