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I agree. Too much hand-wringing going on over minutia, but that's what the forum is about, I guess.
What most of these folks don't understand is business: the business of selling cars. Even a jump from <$50K to $55K would be shocking, advancements be damned.
Only shocking to the market segment GM wants to drop.
I don't think GM wants to 'drop' any segment. There are lots of 'older' folks who really like it and a smaller segment who don't.
I guess we will see when the pricing and availability comes out. I wont be surprised if GM limits dealer allocation and tightens the spread between invoice and list as well as raising the list base price to $56995, so that its profit targets are met with fewer sales.
I dont think GM wants to cater to the Walmart crowd anymore ,like they have been lately. New C6's for under $40k is insane ,and cheapens the brand.
I guess we will see when the pricing and availability comes out. I wont be surprised if GM limits dealer allocation and tightens the spread between invoice and list as well as raising the list base price to $56995, so that its profit targets are met with fewer sales.
I dont think GM wants to cater to the Walmart crowd anymore ,like they have been lately. New C6's for under $40k is insane ,and cheapens the brand.
I wouldn't be too worried about huge increases because if you believe some of the stuff we've heard, they are capable of building 18 C7's per hour at the plant and we keep hearing rumors of high (30-40k) sales goals.
The new under $40k C6's are likely 'narrow' bodied and lower optioned (1 or 2LT) versions that dealers are trying to clear off their lots.
Look what my friends paid for C6 427 convertibles . Two of them were over $90,000 with 60 year packages. I guess there is a large range of prices. Kerbeck's has new C6's for $41,000...
If they actually paid that much, they over paid.
That might be the sticker, but they should have paid MUCH less than that.
The average msrp of a vehicle sold in the USA is 32 grand. The average price paid is 28 grand. The average cost of a vehicle purchased is 26 weeks of income.
The 1lt stingray will cost 53 grand give or take a grand..the z51 with grand sport like equipment will start about 6 grand more...give or take a grand...
I wouldn't sweat the price increase. It will be the various new options that will quickly raise the price.
I would suggest a 1lt z51 will range to 59 grand....the MRC option will another 1500 and the competition seats will range 1500 to 3000.
That's all anybody needs...all the other fabulous options will add up rather quickly.
That how Porsche does it.....
GM will make the average c7 and sell it for half the average tranaction price of a 911 S which ranges pretty much right now over 110 grand...
The beauty is the c7 will crush a 911 and if you want the beautiful interior....you ll still be 50 grand under the German wunder car.....
The Audi r8 doesn't stand a chance performance wise either....IMO
The discounted pricing of the recent 3 years for c6 s is gone. As the demand hopefully on the c7 will deliver MSRP transaction pricing.....
Otherwise the vettes in big trouble.....
In 3 years we might manage a few grand off msrp but usually it's a shell game..GM raises the price and just discounts back down to the release pricing of the new generation.
LT4 higher performance models will demand better pricing as z51 capacity exceeds demand slightly and higher performance versions begin the cycle all over again...
Along with all the excellent media coverage that GM loves
Just reading Mt, they set estimated base at 59k....which is about 10k too much... thoughts?
As long as quality control, fit and finish is worthy,how could anyone think this kind of performance could be worth less. Go price out a Boxter or a Shelby Mustang.( Real world price.)
I would think that GM would price it just above what the current 2013 models are going for in 2014 and then incrasae the price as they usually do. As I recall even though GM improves each generation it keeps the price point at an affordable level so that individuals can up grade from a C6 to a C7
59 K would be pricing it out of its current market. I doubt that GM would want to lose whatever older indivduals purchase Corvettes in an attempt to go upscale as well as get the younger individuals to buy it.
Price comparison needs to be aligned with a C6 Grand Sport and not a C6 coupe.
29-39-49-59-69-79K I dont get it. What are you basing the price on.70k is a bargain compared to what. Nobody knows what this car drives like or what it can do or even if you have seen the final version yet although we probably have and your making these baseless assumptions. At least get one piece of performance data before you start saying it handles better than a PORSCHE for half the price or its just as fast as a FERRARI for a tenth of the price or whatever. You don't know if the dam thing could beat a kia because the only person you know to drive it is Matt Lauer!
Can we at least safely compare the C7 to, lets say, another Corvette . Such as a C6 Grand sport. We all know what a performance machine this car is. Makes $59-$70k not so bad. My six year old ZO6 lz2 stickered for $76,500 in 2006.
Price comparison needs to be aligned with a C6 Grand Sport and not a C6 coupe.
That is how I did it when I was trying to guess the price of a C7 vert. I used the price of a 2013 GS vert with the options I could price and guessed at options that I couldn't price such as the C7 2LT package. I assumed that the C7 2LT would be a little less than the C6 3LT.
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I think the C7 will be replacing the GS in pricing instead of the base coupe that NO ONE bought. That STARTS at 57k, so I'd bet the C7 starts at 59k for a stripper
If you don't think $50k vs $60k+ is a totally different price territory. Look at the total annual sales of the GTR, Boxter, Viper. There is a reason why the Corvette was a mass produced sports car for the money.
Sure, they will still have buyers if GM increased the price by 10%. But they will have alot less buyers. People are in a credit crunch. They will make more sales and more money by keeping the price low and make money to add ons, warranty, maintenance, etc..
55K is more than acceptable for the specs and content. The C7 is superior to the C6 in every way and it offers a level on content, quality, design, and sophistication that warrants that price. Porsche charges twice as much for less and they don't have a problem selling.
People also need to realize that the Corvette has been priced lower for a couple reason.
1) The Corvette has always been such a bargain proposition that it couldn't warrant the price points that it deserved. Now, the C7 offers a level of content not rivaled by anything short of 100K.
2) The Camaro is back and wasn't in the past what it is today. The ZL1 put up the same Ring time as the C6 Z06 when it first debuted, which is very impressive. In other words, Chevy now has another world class performance machine that also needs pricing room to operate. The C7 is better than the ZL1 as well, so it make compete sense that it would at least start at the same price point and go higher.
The Corvette is Chevy's and GM's flagship. It deserves more than Camaro or bargain pricing and people are willing to pay more for a quality and world class product, which the C7 is.
I've said it more than once...Corvettes are still attainable, but they haven't been affordable for a while.
The C7 is on a completely different path than the C6. It is receiving global praise from around the world across all types of demographics, which is exactly what it deserves. You can't expect rock bottom prices for a machine of this caliber.
I'll bet my last dollar that the C7 will easily outsell the C6 because it appeals to a larger audience. Corvettes are moving into a different phase - they are not cheap, they are world class in every way, and they must grow in order to compete.
Just because the Corvette is an American car, it doesn't mean that Chevy should only be concerned with American tastes. There are plenty of people around the world, and in the US, that expect more and will pay more for a better car.
Corvettes are not for everyone to own. If you don't like it, go buy something else. Actually, there isn't anything you can buy for the dollar that even comes close to the value that the C7 brings. You'll easily be over 100K if you want to top the C7.
I here what your saying but a $70K C6 will still top a C7Z51.
Just because you cant afford it doesnt mean there arent many others who can. Your expectations are unrealistic.
GM wont be marketing this car to people like yourself or some of the others posting here where a $5000-$6000 higher price point pushes them out of the market.
I think they should price the outgoing 2013 C6ZR1 at $60K so I can afford to buy one "Dam it"
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