Projected C7 Performance
Burning Brakes
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As a current GS daily driver, I'll be in no hurry to shop the new car if it doesn't turn me on. I may be spoiled now and hafta wait for the higher performance versions of the C7, but I'm hoping for:
0-60 in 3.8 with the better low end torque, assuming the power:weight ratio is just a hair better than my GS.
For the quarter I'll guess GM's press statement is 12.0 at 119.
On E85 that should put it in the 9s easy, right?
0-60 in 3.8 with the better low end torque, assuming the power:weight ratio is just a hair better than my GS.
For the quarter I'll guess GM's press statement is 12.0 at 119.
On E85 that should put it in the 9s easy, right?
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Who knows? The point is there is still a lot we don't know about this car. We don't have final HP or torque numbers. We don't have final weight data (we know some parts are lighter, but there is more stuff in this car). Faster than a GS is a broad statement. Anything better is just icing on the cake as far as I am concerned. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by the real number compared to my 3.9+.
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I realize we don't have any real data to go by, but based on what Tadge said a few weeks ago we can expect the C7 to do 0-60 in less then 4 seconds.
Now here is the question, the 2013 GS turn the 0-60 in 4 seconds flat. What are your expectations on the 0-60 time in the C7. Also what about 1/4 mile times? Again the GS is rated at a 12.3 @ 115.6 MPH
I am thinking maybe a 3.8 in the 0-60 and for the 1/4 mile 11.9
Now here is the question, the 2013 GS turn the 0-60 in 4 seconds flat. What are your expectations on the 0-60 time in the C7. Also what about 1/4 mile times? Again the GS is rated at a 12.3 @ 115.6 MPH
I am thinking maybe a 3.8 in the 0-60 and for the 1/4 mile 11.9
And Yep.
With the exception of braking, I dont think the C7 will beat the C6Z in any single particular performance measurement. But I do expect the C7 to provide very C6Z-like performance. Meaning it will be pretty much a drivers race between a C6Z06 & a C7/Z51. Fitting into the slot right between the C6GS and the C6Z sounds like just the right amount of progress for a C7 base car.
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The new Michelins have more grip, supposedly equivalent to a wider tire, I believe the weight of the C7 is going to be similar to C6 z06. So z06-equivalent torque, grip, weight and gearing should result in z06-equivalent acceleration
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Who knows? The point is there is still a lot we don't know about this car. We don't have final HP or torque numbers. We don't have final weight data (we know some parts are lighter, but there is more stuff in this car). Faster than a GS is a broad statement. Anything better is just icing on the cake as far as I am concerned. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by the real number compared to my 3.9+.
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St. Jude Donor '11
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I have not read a lot on the new tires, but I do know they are supposed to grip better then the wider GY's but I believe that is in the handle more then traction. AS for the weight, the C7 is actually heavier then the C6 and I am not talking Z06.
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I would hope to see 0 to 60 in 3.7 to stay some what competitive with the new iron that is on the street.
2013 GTR 2.8 10.90 QTR.
Gen V Viper 3.5 and 11.5 QTR.
Cadillac CTS V 4.0 and 12.1 QTR.
Porsche 991 S With PDK & LAUNCH CONTROL 3.5 and 11.8 QTR.
Camaro ZL1 3.8 and 12.1 QTR.
Ford Mustang BOSS 302 4.0 and 12.4
Thought I'd share this one. Motor trend released the quickest test cars for 2012,
10. 2013 BMW M5 – 3.7 seconds
9. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster – 3.6 seconds
8. 2013 Audi S8 – 3.5 seconds
7. 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 – 3.5 seconds
6. 2013 SRT Viper GTS – 3.4 seconds
5. 2013 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 – 3.4 seconds
4. 2012 McLaren MP4-12C – 2.9 seconds
3. 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition – 2.8 seconds
2. 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 – 2.8 seconds
1. 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S – 2.7 seconds
2013 GTR 2.8 10.90 QTR.
Gen V Viper 3.5 and 11.5 QTR.
Cadillac CTS V 4.0 and 12.1 QTR.
Porsche 991 S With PDK & LAUNCH CONTROL 3.5 and 11.8 QTR.
Camaro ZL1 3.8 and 12.1 QTR.
Ford Mustang BOSS 302 4.0 and 12.4
Thought I'd share this one. Motor trend released the quickest test cars for 2012,
10. 2013 BMW M5 – 3.7 seconds
9. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster – 3.6 seconds
8. 2013 Audi S8 – 3.5 seconds
7. 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 – 3.5 seconds
6. 2013 SRT Viper GTS – 3.4 seconds
5. 2013 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 – 3.4 seconds
4. 2012 McLaren MP4-12C – 2.9 seconds
3. 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition – 2.8 seconds
2. 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 – 2.8 seconds
1. 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S – 2.7 seconds
Last edited by DRLC5; Jan 28, 2013 at 04:10 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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The weight figures floating around are media estimates, the same people who brought you news of the 5.5 liter engine and other C7 "facts". I will worry about the weight when it is time to buy and at that time there will be real numbers instead of fluff.
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St. Jude Donor '11
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I think I heard Tadge say that it was heaver then the C6 in one of the interviews. So I would have to believe him if he said it.
Melting Slicks
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I think the C7 Z51 will be in the mid to low 7:30's at the Nurburgring.
Should have no problems outperforming the C6 GS in any performance test save for skidpad and max braking.
Straight line, it should trap 117-119mph IMO. Probably towards the higher end.
Crazy numbers from any version of a base 'Vette IMO.
Should have no problems outperforming the C6 GS in any performance test save for skidpad and max braking.
Straight line, it should trap 117-119mph IMO. Probably towards the higher end.
Crazy numbers from any version of a base 'Vette IMO.
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It's a common misconception that the Grand Sports are quicker/faster than the base C6 LS3s, but they're not. Even with their slight gearing advantage they're ultimately a tiny bit slower than the base cars when comparing manual to manual or automatic to automatic.
So I'm hoping that the C7 is notably quicker than the base car, not just the Grand Sport.
Burning Brakes
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I would hope to see 0 to 60 in 3.7 to stay some what competitive with the new iron that is on the street.
2013 GTR 2.8 10.90 QTR.
Gen V Viper 3.5 and 11.5 QTR.
Cadillac CTS V 4.0 and 12.1 QTR.
Porsche 991 S With PDK & LAUNCH CONTROL 3.5 and 11.8 QTR.
Camaro ZL1 3.8 and 12.1 QTR.
Ford Mustang BOSS 302 4.0 and 12.4
Thought I'd share this one. Motor trend released the quickest test cars for 2012,
10. 2013 BMW M5 – 3.7 seconds
9. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster – 3.6 seconds
8. 2013 Audi S8 – 3.5 seconds
7. 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 – 3.5 seconds
6. 2013 SRT Viper GTS – 3.4 seconds
5. 2013 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 – 3.4 seconds
4. 2012 McLaren MP4-12C – 2.9 seconds
3. 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition – 2.8 seconds
2. 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 – 2.8 seconds
1. 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S – 2.7 seconds
2013 GTR 2.8 10.90 QTR.
Gen V Viper 3.5 and 11.5 QTR.
Cadillac CTS V 4.0 and 12.1 QTR.
Porsche 991 S With PDK & LAUNCH CONTROL 3.5 and 11.8 QTR.
Camaro ZL1 3.8 and 12.1 QTR.
Ford Mustang BOSS 302 4.0 and 12.4
Thought I'd share this one. Motor trend released the quickest test cars for 2012,
10. 2013 BMW M5 – 3.7 seconds
9. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster – 3.6 seconds
8. 2013 Audi S8 – 3.5 seconds
7. 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 – 3.5 seconds
6. 2013 SRT Viper GTS – 3.4 seconds
5. 2013 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 – 3.4 seconds
4. 2012 McLaren MP4-12C – 2.9 seconds
3. 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition – 2.8 seconds
2. 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 – 2.8 seconds
1. 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S – 2.7 seconds
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I could really care less about what everyone paid for there car. When they line up next to me It is on. I don't ask or say your car cost more than mine..lol.Run what you brung. I know the Vette is a decent car for the money. The GTR is running against and beating cars that cost 2 to 3 times more?
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I did see that one, but for the life of me can't remember which one it was. They're all sort of running together in my brain. I think he was at the show in this one. But I believe he said they were still looking for a way to get some more weight out of it. I guess we'll know by September.