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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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good post. This is why I treat people like animals in life because the majority are
I've found the opposite to be true in real life. There are many animals on the internet, however.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Someone once said that. "The masses are asses". There truth in that statement although not absolute. Some people just don't think about anyone further than the end of their own nose. Pre occupied in their own little world. Then there are those that look at a Corvette as just a car and will bang the door without a thought. Kinda sad but it is the times we live in. I drive my car less to public places these days.
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Originally Posted by 05gtslow
So I can't park next to your Vette unless I'm in what you deem a worthy vehicle? If I came across you messing with my valve stems you'd be lucky I would only arrest you (as an officer of the law) for destruction of property. In my state if it's $250 or more, it's Felony Destruction of Property. Or tampering with my vehicle's safety or road worthiness could lead to other charges. I see nothing wrong with the picture you posted, but you do not come across well posting this as a "moron" who parked next to you. And before you tell me to shut up because you don't care what I think, maybe you shouldn't post threads if you don't like people telling you they don't agree you.
You really should re-read all the posts before getting so nasty.

First, I never said the guy didn't have the right to park next to my car. He could, he did. No Big deal. The whole post had nothing whatsoever to do with who I "deemed" worthy, it was a comment on people who deliberately park as close as they can to "nice" car, just to be spiteful or mean. The owner of the old Buick could have chosen 250 other spaces that were much closer to the door, instead, he parked there. There were fifteen empty spaces in that row between his car and the next one. It was a deliberate choice, and he while he was between the lines, he was a foot closer to my car than a centered car would have been. Again, no big deal, but clearly deliberate.

Second, the valve stem thing never happened, I never said that it did. It was not even referencing the same parking event. It was talking about an event where the guy parked in my space, a foot from the car, and I couldn't eve get in. That time, I was all the way at the end of a huge lot and there was virtually nobody else in the lot. Still, the comment was a joke I even clarified it in a later post. You, as an officer of the law, should know that you can't go around threatening to arrest people who haven't done anything. Lighten up.

Third, I didn't tell anyone to "shut up". Like you, the other poster didn't read all the posts and made some completely erroneous assumptions about my motives for posting. I'll read your posts and answer, so long as you have read all the posts, understand all of the discussion, and are reasonably cordial.

Fourth, maybe "moron" was a poor choice of words, but I personally don't think anyone who deliberately does this kind of thing is very bright. Just my opinion, don't agree, if you like, but, I think I can express it when I want.

Fifth, I have no problem with disagreement. However, if you make threats (as you did) and are nasty, as he was, or try to put words in my mouth, as you both did, I will respond in kind, or more likely, will cease communication with you.

Have a nice day.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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I honestly don't see a problem either - 90% chance he does not even know what's parked next to him. He is parked perfectly in the middle of the space, per parking lot specs. We tend to think everyone knows to tiptoe around our new toy but 90% of the public just does not know or care anything about cars, like this guy, obviously. He was probably thinking about paying his gas, rent and elec bill with money orders, not your vette....
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettrocious
Nice theory, however, I think the walk is the same, either way.
No, if he parked closer to the store, he would then have to walk back (away from) the store, to look at your car. Parked where he is though, he can get out and see your car, walking the same distance to the store that you did! Parking closer to the store would mean he has to walk further to admire your car.

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It was a deliberate choice, and he while he was between the lines, he was a foot closer to my car than a centered car would have been. Again, no big deal, but clearly deliberate.
Without using measuring tools, I don't see how he could be more centered in the space.

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Second, the valve stem thing never happened, I never said that it did.
You implied it originally.


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You, as an officer of the law, should know that you can't go around threatening to arrest people who haven't done anything. Lighten up.
I believe his statement was essentially, IF he caught you breaking the law, he would arrest you. No threat there!
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Glen e
I honestly don't see a problem either - 90% chance he does not even know what's parked next to him. He is parked perfectly in the middle of the space, per parking lot specs. We tend to think everyone knows to tiptoe around our new toy but 90% of the public just does not know or care anything about cars, like this guy, obviously. He was probably thinking about paying his gas, rent and elec bill with money orders, not your vette....
Sir, you win the sensible statement of the year award. I fully agree. I think lots of folks will park next to another vehicle in a lot full of open spaces just by habit. I see it all the time.


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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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I'm Canadian. We don't have these problem's here. We just all get along.
Yeah, right Canada is nirvana. Don
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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I think all of you guys need to drink some more Egg Nog. Its really not that serious. If you want a guarantee that someone wont park beside your brand new Vette, then leave it parked in your garage.

As long as someone parks in their space, between the lines.. and doesnt damage your vehicle in anyway. Then there's really nothing to complain about. Its a public parking lot and they have just as much of a right, as you do.. to park in any space they desire. Now of someone damages a vehicle, when parking in a space.. then thats a totally different situation.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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There are many folks here on CF that have been here longer than me, but in my relatively short time here I have discovered that most people fall into one of two groups - Corvette Guys and Guys with Corvettes (using "guys" generically here, ladies!). Neither group is inherently good or bad, they just have a different perspective on their cars.

In most CF threads, this difference remains in the background and is often not noticeable. However, every now and then, a thread comes along (like this one) that brings this difference to the fore.

The Guys with Corvettes group is made up of folks who have chosen, for whatever reason, to buy and drive a Corvette. But, as many posts in the thread have stated, it is "just a car" to them. They don't view their Corvette much differently than any other "regular" car - they drive it, enjoy it and don't really worry too much about it.

The Corvette Guys group is made up of folks who have chosen to buy and drive a Corvette because it is an "aspirational" vehicle to them - something they always wanted and treasure now that they have it. These folks view their Corvettes as much more than "just a car" and only ask that others - be they "car guys" or not - simply show a little courtesy in public situations such as this parking example.

As you probably already know, I fall into this latter group, and IMO if asking for a little courtesy from others equates to asking for some kind of "special treatment" from them in their own minds, then I think that is a sad commentary on them.

To be clear, I am not defending Corvette owners who act like a**hats. They get what they deserve. But why is it too much to ask, if you park way out in the boonies and there is plenty of parking elsewhere, that nobody park right next to you? I don't know the answer, but as I stated in my original post - I have learned that it IS, in fact, TOO MUCH to ask of many people, so I choose to leave my collector cars at home in situations like these. And that is my recommendation to all who find themselves in the Corvette Guy group. It just makes life easier for everyone.

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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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The guy in the chopper has got to be extremely angry. He flew over to the Depot to get some finishing nails and this happens.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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The guy in the chopper has got to be extremely angry.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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The biggest problem is the guys that paint the lines for parking spots need to put them further apart... It seems to me that they use Smart car dimensions as an average car size in some lots now.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
but if it is so special that you can't stand someone parked next to it, don't drive the damn thing to a public parking lot.
What do you guys think you own the parking lots? You don't like anybody parking next to you, then stay the f**k home and leave your car in the garage. It's the chance you take live with it.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by harrydunn
the guy in the chopper has got to be extremely angry. He flew over to the depot to get some finishing nails and this happens. :d

Now that's funny...

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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 4XLR8N
I have learned that it IS, in fact, TOO MUCH to ask of many people, so I choose to leave my collector cars at home in situations like these.
There you go now you have your answer.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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I am a blend between those with a Corvette and Corvette Guy. I have decided that the car is depreciating, why save it? Sometimes think I have the only Corvette in the area, never see another for weeks on end. I drive mine, there always is a place to park, sometimes you have to look harder to find it. I think people are more responsible now then they were yesteryear (I remember when my car had many door hits, none now). When the new car arrives I will; find new roads, we have to, Chevrolet mandates it.

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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Lagoon
No, if he parked closer to the store, he would then have to walk back (away from) the store, to look at your car. Parked where he is though, he can get out and see your car, walking the same distance to the store that you did! Parking closer to the store would mean he has to walk further to admire your car.
Let's review the math:
1) He parks next to me: he walks 250 feet to the store, then 250 feet back. Total 500
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2) He parks close to store: walks 200 feet to my car, then 250 feet to store, then 50 feet back to his car. Total: 500 feet.

Same distance.

Originally Posted by Blue Lagoon
Without using measuring tools, I don't see how he could be more centered in the space.
You weren't there to "see" it, I was. The photo is deceptive.


Originally Posted by Blue Lagoon
You implied it originally.
IT WAS A JOKE. You could read a lot of things into my comment, so I clarified that it was a joke in a separate post long before the poster made his post


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I believe his statement was essentially, IF he caught you breaking the law, he would arrest you. No threat there!
The implication was that I had already broken the law. It was an implied threat and it was clearly directed at me.
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Originally Posted by vortex1
The biggest problem is the guys that paint the lines for parking spots need to put them further apart... It seems to me that they use Smart car dimensions as an average car size in some lots now.
The minimum parking space dimensions are usually controlled by a zoning ordinance or building code. The minimum number of stalls for a given type and size of business is also controlled by ordinance or code. The developer of the real estate is going to invariably design the parking lot to use the least amount of real estate for the number of parking stalls required. Very few businesses are going to exceed those dimensions.

Those developers also lobby for the dimensions and number of stalls to be reduced as much as they can get away with so as to maximize the "value" of their real estate.

Many of those dimensions predate the prevalence of SUV's and pickups being used as daily drivers.

The long term answer is to lobby your local building authority (City or County, usually), to adopt a code with wider spaces. Be very vocal about it. Write emails to each counselor. Write a letter to the editor. Make it an election issue. Also, find out what car the mayor and council members drive, and be sure and park tight next to them every time you see them (not to harass, but to demonstrate that the spaces are too small).

Also lobby the businesses themselves. Point out the negative customer experience you have every time you visit their store and that if they want affluent customers who can afford nice cars, they need to realize those customers need to feel their property is safe in the parking lot.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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If you kicked in his doors when you left, would he notice??
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jimb100
Its so hard to understand why so many people think Corvette owners are a holes.

Maybe its because some Corvette owners complain about their cars getting keyed for "no reason" while they feel its OK to pour hot coffee on someone else's car as a punishment for parking to close to their precious Chevy.

...and some people like YOU don't understand that it wasn't ABOUT my "Corvette". It was about some ahole who deliberatly parked his POS car 1 FOOT away from my "nicer" car. ONE FOOT AWAY. Meaning he literally had to squeeze out of his car door, when he had a hundred other spots closer to the front door of the store to park in. So, he parked that way for the SOLE PURPOSE of trying to **** of the owner of the nicer car (me). So, got exactly what he had coming to him.

I laughed the entire time I drove away from his coffee covered car, just like I laughed at your reply above.

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