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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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Proof that you can have your cake AND eat it, too

The ignorance of people on the road continues to blow my mind. Prime example: Most Prius/Corolla/Sentra drivers exceed 50 miles a day while my commute is exactly 15 roundtrip. Tell me who is really harming the environment more? For this reason, I make it a point to downshift, rev, etc next to 'economy cars' who are clearly tree hugging hippies
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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I read somewhere, forgot where, that humans actually only occupy about 2% of the planets land mass. If this is true, I have a hard time believing that it simply our existence that is causing climate change. I feel it's kind of like saying that the dinosaurs created the ice age.
I hope this doesn't derail the thread, but...

Human influence on climate change is well documented and proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Just because a handful of educated quacks say 'they're not convinced' doesn't invalidate the thousands upon thousands of studies that prove otherwise.

If you believe dinosaurs burnt billions of cubic meters of fuels (per year for over a hundred years) for their electricity and manufacturing, well then you should find some people who agree at www.theworldisflat.com.

The environmental impact of the Corvette is actually about average for road cars.

Plenty of real information is available for those who would like to intelligently discuss the topic.

As far as the performance of the Prius, it's actually not a bad car. It's certainly nothing like a Corvette, but with both the electric and gas propulsion, they have plenty of power for the average driver off the line. I'd personally never own one, since it's too much of a 'generic' car.

I like my cars like I like good art work, to inspire emotion.
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltespd
Studies have been done that rank Prius drivers as the #1 most annoying drivers.
When did they take that spot away from BMW drivers?


Cheers.
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltespd
Studies have been done that rank Prius drivers as the #1 most annoying drivers.
Even more annoying when they're NOT driving!
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Well, at least you can take comfort in the fact that he's stuck driving a Prius. LOL
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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What's the (out-of-focus) red stuff on top of the instrument cluster in the photo?
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WaxWeekly

Human influence on climate change is well documented and proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Just because a handful of educated quacks say 'they're not convinced' doesn't invalidate the thousands upon thousands of studies that prove otherwise.
I hate to take the thread off track but I just can’t let this one go unchallenged. Global warming isn’t a fact. After I retired from the military, I worked for Sandia National Laboratories, sister lab to Los Alamos for 17 yrs.

I will tell you that many highly credentialed PhDs (Sandia has 1000+ of them, mostly in engineering, EE, physics and math) are very skeptical of the claims made by the environazis and liberal think tanks.

The liberals have been guilty of “cooking the books” so many times to achieve the viewpoint that suits their goals that they’re not believable. Don
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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What's the (out-of-focus) red stuff on top of the instrument cluster in the photo?
The stitching from the steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by 04_Z06_CE
Gotta be careful with all these PRE ASSES
Jealousy runs rampid .
Worst car on the road is a PREASS!
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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Usually, steady driving wins the mileage race.
Interesting that in my area, many Prius drivers are super aggressive and defeat the idea of getting an economical car.
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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In 1984 I had a Volkswagen Rabbit diesel that got 55 mpg. Where are these kind of economy today 30 years later.
Im still amazed at my C7's 30+ milage.
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Originally Posted by Silverblue
Okay, so I am on my home the other day in my AW C7 vert, when some guy in a Prius cuts me off then slows down to like 15mph under the speed limit. We are in the left lane and the traffic in the right lane is to heavy to pass this idiot to the right. He stays in front of me for way longer than he needed to. Finally, I was able to pull the the right and pass the Prius. I looked in and sure enough, a very angry looking skinny old geezer with a braided pigtail of stringy gray hair and I'm not making this up, a tie died t-shirt, was clearly scowling at me as I passed. All I could think of was this really cool poster I saw on line...

Your first mistake was to let the Prius get in front of you in the first place.
Right click and save on the pic though.
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
He's just jealous.....


His wife wouldn't LET him buy a Vette.
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Originally Posted by W88fixer
I hate to take the thread off track but I just can’t let this one go unchallenged. Global warming isn’t a fact. After I retired from the military, I worked for Sandia National Laboratories, sister lab to Los Alamos for 17 yrs.

I will tell you that many highly credentialed PhDs (Sandia has 1000+ of them, mostly in engineering, EE, physics and math) are very skeptical of the claims made by the environazis and liberal think tanks.

The liberals have been guilty of “cooking the books” so many times to achieve the viewpoint that suits their goals that they’re not believable. Don
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Old Aug 19, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by W88fixer
I hate to take the thread off track but I just can’t let this one go unchallenged. Global warming isn’t a fact. After I retired from the military, I worked for Sandia National Laboratories, sister lab to Los Alamos for 17 yrs.

I will tell you that many highly credentialed PhDs (Sandia has 1000+ of them, mostly in engineering, EE, physics and math) are very skeptical of the claims made by the environazis and liberal think tanks.

The liberals have been guilty of “cooking the books” so many times to achieve the viewpoint that suits their goals that they’re not believable. Don
I find it absolutely incredible that people really think that 6 billion people living, eating, working, driving, building, destroying, compiling, dying, etc on this earth has no affect what-so-ever on the climate.

Next time you start your car. Make sure to take a deep whiff of that exhaust. And try to convince yourself again that "global warming" is non-existent.
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Old Aug 19, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
I find it absolutely incredible that people really think that 6 billion people living, eating, working, driving, building, destroying, compiling, dying, etc on this earth has no affect what-so-ever on the climate.

Next time you start your car. Make sure to take a deep whiff of that exhaust. And try to convince yourself again that "global warming" is non-existent.
Uh...I call it engine warming.
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
I find it absolutely incredible that people really think that 6 billion people living, eating, working, driving, building, destroying, compiling, dying, etc on this earth has no affect what-so-ever on the climate.

Next time you start your car. Make sure to take a deep whiff of that exhaust. And try to convince yourself again that "global warming" is non-existent.
Ban sex and there won't be so many people breathing your air. Meanwhile China and the rest of the world is busy taking a big dump into the ocean.
Preach it to them ya tree hugger.
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Originally Posted by W88fixer
I hate to take the thread off track but I just can’t let this one go unchallenged. Global warming isn’t a fact. After I retired from the military, I worked for Sandia National Laboratories, sister lab to Los Alamos for 17 yrs.

I will tell you that many highly credentialed PhDs (Sandia has 1000+ of them, mostly in engineering, EE, physics and math) are very skeptical of the claims made by the environazis and liberal think tanks.

The liberals have been guilty of “cooking the books” so many times to achieve the viewpoint that suits their goals that they’re not believable. Don
Politicians and people with vested interest in the outcome creating studies that 'prove' the outcome that suits them best? You think only 'liberals' do that? Perhaps the assumption that it's a 'liberal vs conservative' topic is a good sign you need to review your perspective. Ever heard of the Koch brothers?

Regardless of where you sit on the topic, we'll all see the effects (or lack thereof) within the next 20-30 years. One of the more recent studies was about the acceptance of topics that span timeframes that are difficult for the average person to personally witness. It was interesting that acceptance of climate change is starting to increase in the central US, which is credited to personal experience of 'unusual extremes' by the people who live there. Regardless of the climate change topic, you have to admit that people are more likely to support things if they have personal experience.

If you're a fan of science, there was a great episode of the new Cosmos show that talked about the use of lead in gasoline. It covers a wide range of topics, and briefly touches on climate change since the methods most commonly used are the same methods proven in the discussions about the use of lead in gasoline.
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Originally Posted by WaxWeekly
I hope this doesn't derail the thread, but...

Human influence on climate change is well documented and proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Just because a handful of educated quacks say 'they're not convinced' doesn't invalidate the thousands upon thousands of studies that prove otherwise.

If you believe dinosaurs burnt billions of cubic meters of fuels (per year for over a hundred years) for their electricity and manufacturing, well then you should find some people who agree at www.theworldisflat.com.

The environmental impact of the Corvette is actually about average for road cars.

Plenty of real information is available for those who would like to intelligently discuss the topic.

As far as the performance of the Prius, it's actually not a bad car. It's certainly nothing like a Corvette, but with both the electric and gas propulsion, they have plenty of power for the average driver off the line. I'd personally never own one, since it's too much of a 'generic' car.

I like my cars like I like good art work, to inspire emotion.
I dig the avatar. As for the comment about humans effecting the climate, of course it's correct, but hopefully you know by now that this forum is littered with people who i'd guess seem to prefer being loud over being right who are just going to call you a tree-hugging hippie liberal who is believing the vast scientific consipiracy. A lot of the posters here keep the tin-foil industry in business. Check out the political section of the forum if you want a good laugh, it's chock full of derangement. I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince any of them though; they don't take too kindly to facts or even observations made by reasonable adults.

Back on topic, I totally agree about the Prius' good looks (or lack thereof). I'd never own one in its current form just because I really think that it's a boring looking car, and yes, I do put some value in form as much as function. The car is Toyota in its most typical element. I do have a neighbor who owns one who loves it for what it's worth and he even said that it'll surprise you with how fast it gets off a line. I'm sure that it's not Corvette territory, but it's not what you'd expect. I might have to go for a ride with him sometime and really get a demo of it if he's willing. I'm not sure that i'll get another car though since my Vette is my DD and I kind of like it that way. I bought it to drive it!
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Of course Corvette owners are perfect and never do anything to annoy other drivers. Then I wonder who was driving that C6 GS last evening that blew by me in a residential neighbohood with kids out?

Must have been a Prius owner driving his other car?
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