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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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I really don't think the reported blown engines are an attempt to deride GM. I don't see it as the Porsche event you describe either and hope it doesn't become that.

I do have a feeling that your simple oil filter change is not the answer.

Originally Posted by cmicasa
Well thus far out of almost 40K the occurrence has been very limited to a few vehicles. With GM being under the microscope because of the ignition recall of the Cobalt I doubt seriously that if this were a real concern a recall would not have been issued immediately. Worst case scenario I could see is GM recalling the C7 for a oil filter change, perhaps to a new speced AC Delco or even a Fram or Mobil 1. This has not yet turned into a PORSCHE RECALLING $230K GT3s for a ENGINE CHANGE
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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He has a thread about his engine on this forum and whew there are so many posters bad-mouthing him for what he must have done wrong to cause it to blow.

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Forum chatter should be taken for face value but I would expect some PR concern considering one of the most popular auto magazines has experienced failures in two cars firsthand. If there is an issue regarding failure frequency then I would like to at least be aware and my firsthand experience just happens to be seeing a white C7 blow a motor and catch fire at Roebling Road on August 16. I have no idea if the owner is active on these forums or not.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
I change the oil/filter right at 1000 miles on EVERY car I have owned (even pre-owned ones). My 2014 Stingray is sitting at 957 miles on it and will be taking it to my dealer this week.

It may be a waste of resources, but it makes me feel better.

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Good lord are you kidding.

Silly waste of money but knock yourself out. Just do not even try to say that it makes any sense at all.

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
I change the oil/filter right at 1000 miles on EVERY car I have owned (even pre-owned ones). My 2014 Stingray is sitting at 957 miles on it and will be taking it to my dealer this week.

It may be a waste of resources, but it makes me feel better.

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Depends on the type of miles. For example, city "stop and go" driving is MUCH harder on oil than is highway cruising.

YMMV.....
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HolyRoller
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I have a 2011 Z06 and for months there were 2 or 3 "experts" that went on and on and on complaining and crapping all over the LS7.

Got to the point where I actually spoke to a quality engineer that I knew from the BG plant and he confirmed that some bad heads got into the system and there were a few failures that GM replaced under warranty.

The real issue is that some of the failed engines were 2006 Z06s and out of the 5 year 100,000 mike warranty.

Really bad news for those folks......

I enjoy the forum but like any blog, there are always folks that like to create false alarms.

Take it all with a grain of salt,,,,,,
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GOLD72
That's a throw back of over 45 years of automotive history. I have a Caddie 3.6L also. The last car I had with a drop-in filter was my 67 Camaro 327.
My Mercedes uses a drop in cartridge oil filter. It's top mounted and I don't spill a drop of oil replacing it during an oil change.

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HolyRoller
Looks like the cause was a defective oil filter shedding a piece of metal into the oil stream. So by changing from a known good filter to an unknown one, you just doubled your chances of the same thing happening to you.
Funny . . . and true.
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My Mercedes uses a drop in cartridge oil filter. It's top mounted and I don't spill a drop of oil replacing it during an oil change.

My 1953 chevy had that exact same setup. It was a 6 cylinder.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossofiron
Good lord are you kidding.

Silly waste of money but knock yourself out. Just do not even try to say that it makes any sense at all.

If those were a 1,000 track miles at 9/10 I would agree with that oil change interval.

If you drive at 10/10 change oil filter after every track day
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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The big difference between Z06 Ls7 and a Porsche or Merc is that a LS7 crate engine can be had for $12k...the others even junk yard motors are not that cheap
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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I would be interested if any of the failures were on the dry sump Z51 C7
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kp
Or, you could have a 'bad' filter on your car now and changing it can reduce the chance to zero.

Goes both ways..
If you change one filter that may or may not be bad (50/50 chance) with another one that may or may not be bad (another 50/50 chance), you are really back in the same boat that you started on. Unless you are somehow able to inspect the new filter, inside and out, to check for problems/weaknesses in its ability to properly filter, it seems to me that your chances of the new filter being better than the old are still just 50/50.

Now, if you know for sure that you have a bad filter (100% chance of being bad) or if you know with a probability greater than 50/50 that you have a bad filter, it would make perfectly good sense to change it because the new filter would have no worse a chance of being bad than 50/50 and you are likely to come out ahead by changing it - my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by *C7*
My 1953 chevy had that exact same setup. It was a 6 cylinder.
yep, Why change something when it works.
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Car and Driver managed not just to blow up 1 motor, but 2. They also blew up a yellow one testing out at VIR. Cant blame the race track because the C7 was the only one out of 25 cars they tested. What is going on here ??
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Originally Posted by DJackman
Car and Driver managed not just to blow up 1 motor, but 2. They also blew up a yellow one testing out at VIR. Cant blame the race track because the C7 was the only one out of 25 cars they tested. What is going on here ??

Where is this info posted at?
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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Where is this info posted at?
Check out the latest issue of Car and Driver.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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Well... If your transmission doesn't overheat, you can count on your engine blowing up.

So much for a track worthy car. LOL`
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Posi6
Lotta people "poo" "poo"ing the report not worried about the engine? Reminds me of when LS7's were dropping valves left and right.
Not really, said the owner of a 2007 Z06 that was tracked and lived on the C6 Z06 forum.

Nice try.
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I changed my oil on my C-7 at 1000 miles and only use K & N oil filter, a little more expensive but worth it in my opinion and I like the wrench flats on the filter..... makes changing the filter so easy.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Depends on the type of miles. For example, city "stop and go" driving is MUCH harder on oil than is highway cruising.

YMMV.....
Yep, YMMV, especially if you have forced induction. I am in boost way more on the hwy than in the city, so higher revs, more pressure and heat and blowby contaminants in hwy driving for me.
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