2016 deliveries
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Dave
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There is one member on here who posted that he drove his 2016 home last night and he posted pics of it in his garage, but yet he has no invoice yet. How did he get around this? Others have suggested that his selling dealer could get in big trouble for doing this! My thought is that perhaps the dealer knows this customer very well and simply put a dealer license plate on the car making it technically a "demo" right now and not titled to the new owner just yet until that invoice arrives?
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There is one member on here who posted that he drove his 2016 home last night and he posted pics of it in his garage, but yet he has no invoice yet. How did he get around this? Others have suggested that his selling dealer could get in big trouble for doing this! My thought is that perhaps the dealer knows this customer very well and simply put a dealer license plate on the car making it technically a "demo" right now and not titled to the new owner just yet until that invoice arrives?
I'm sure a small town dealer would probably be willing to do this for a local, long time customer, but it's illegal in many ways.
Dave
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No. They will release invoices for all that are ready to be invoiced all on the same day. The GM term is "released to market". When a model is released to market, invoices, window stickers and certificate of origins are all released to dealers.
The window stickers and MSOs do not ship together since they come from two different places.
Even though a dealer can not sell a car without an invoice or a window sticker, they can sell it without the MSO unless you are getting your own financing and your bank/credit union wants a copy of the MSO before they will fund the loan.
Dave
The window stickers and MSOs do not ship together since they come from two different places.
Even though a dealer can not sell a car without an invoice or a window sticker, they can sell it without the MSO unless you are getting your own financing and your bank/credit union wants a copy of the MSO before they will fund the loan.
Dave
What does the term "release to market" cover. When the car is ready for shipping or actually loaded on the transportation vehicle ?
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Actually, it's still illegal. The car has no window sticker which is a $10,000 fine from the Feds. A dealer tag can only be put on a car that the dealer owns and the dealer has not been invoiced for that car so he does not own it and the dealer tag is meaningless.
I'm sure a small town dealer would probably be willing to do this for a local, long time customer, but it's illegal in many ways.
I'm sure a small town dealer would probably be willing to do this for a local, long time customer, but it's illegal in many ways.
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There could be any number of reasons that a car is not yet released to market but, like I talked about in an earlier thread, I think it's only a matter of waiting till all of the 2015s have hit the ground. I have a customer who did a courtesy delivery in CA and his car just got to the dealership yesterday! It wouldn't be right to the west coast dealers who are still waiting on 2015s to hit the lot while east coast dealers were delivering 2016s.
Dave
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Actually, it's still illegal. The car has no window sticker which is a $10,000 fine from the Feds. A dealer tag can only be put on a car that the dealer owns and the dealer has not been invoiced for that car so he does not own it and the dealer tag is meaningless.
I'm sure a small town dealer would probably be willing to do this for a local, long time customer, but it's illegal in many ways.
Dave
I'm sure a small town dealer would probably be willing to do this for a local, long time customer, but it's illegal in many ways.
Dave
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No. They will release invoices for all that are ready to be invoiced all on the same day. The GM term is "released to market". When a model is released to market, invoices, window stickers and certificate of origins are all released to dealers.
The window stickers and MSOs do not ship together since they come from two different places.
Even though a dealer can not sell a car without an invoice or a window sticker, they can sell it without the MSO unless you are getting your own financing and your bank/credit union wants a copy of the MSO before they will fund the loan.
Dave
The window stickers and MSOs do not ship together since they come from two different places.
Even though a dealer can not sell a car without an invoice or a window sticker, they can sell it without the MSO unless you are getting your own financing and your bank/credit union wants a copy of the MSO before they will fund the loan.
Dave
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Your car could ship even though it's not invoiced. Your car could actually get to the dealer's lot and not be invoiced. I've got quite a few here already, but I can't sell them yet.
Dave
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Every car that is built will probably get an invoice all at the same time, unless the car is only one or two days old. Cars usually don't get invoiced for a few days after they are built.
Your car could ship even though it's not invoiced. Your car could actually get to the dealer's lot and not be invoiced. I've got quite a few here already, but I can't sell them yet.
Dave
Your car could ship even though it's not invoiced. Your car could actually get to the dealer's lot and not be invoiced. I've got quite a few here already, but I can't sell them yet.
Dave
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Someone said that invoices would be out tomorrow though... Someone that said they family member works in GM HQ.
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Dave - Can you magically make my car leave Kentucky and start heading to Arizona please? I'm OK without the invoice. I just want to give my z06 a hug.
P.S. - I did order it through you, and I am only being half serious about the magic.
P.S. - I did order it through you, and I am only being half serious about the magic.
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I'm sorry to say, I believe your dealer is mistaken. Invoices are generated once per day in batches. Your dealer is the only one reporting an invoice. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. Hopefully it is run tonight and you will see it in the morning.
