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Torque converter failure 2015
8.36%
Torque converter failure 2016
4.18%
Torque converter failure 2017
2.09%
Transmission failure 2015
3.13%
Transmission failure 2016
0.52%
Transmission failure 2017
0.78%
No failure 2015
26.37%
No failure 2016
39.43%
No failure 2017
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 12:59 AM
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Guys you take it really careful when u check the results.
I just went over all the members list who marked:
Torque converter failure 2017
And NONE of them actually posted an issue with their A8, they might just voted so. I am pretty sure that if someone who has new car would be posted some words about it!
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:06 AM
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Agree, care should be taken when reading the results because there are some votes, especially in the 17 category that are false and need to be ignored, but not all of them.

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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 06:40 AM
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Really? Then you may want to take a closer look:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...with-pics.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-failure.html

A couple other guys with 2017's chimed in within these two threads stating their 2017's are exhibiting the same issues.

Granted, CorvettePride, GlassRoad, and QuickRoad should be ignored because they are the same person trolling. However, cjlinares hasn't even voted yet and he is taking his 2017 to Stingray Chevrolet this Wednesday for possible torque converter failure.

I'm not saying the sky is falling and every 2017 is going to be exhibiting failure, but it's already documented that some 2017's are affected. Ask me how I know.

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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 08:35 AM
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And I haven't voted yet till I hear from my servicing dealer. With luck, by the end of this week.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 08:42 AM
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Cautiously optimistic that the late 2015 change did have a positive effect. I think 3 of the 2016 failures in the poll were 2016's made before the 11/15 change. From the experiences above, clearly it was not a complete fix, but might have helped.


I am one of those that has stayed in V8 mode with a Range unit--wonder if this might help in the long run?

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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 09:45 AM
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Don't know but I went ahead and ordered a Range disabler after getting assurances from the company that their latest firmware is compatible with 2017 model year.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KrikGS
Don't know but I went ahead and ordered a Range disabler after getting assurances from the company that their latest firmware is compatible with 2017 model year.
Glad you are up and running. Since you bought the AFM range extender, you might consider this extension to turn it off and on when not driving. It will drain your battery if not driving the car for a few days.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the link! I'm going to try it as is for a bit since this is my daily driver.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by KrikGS
Thanks for the link! I'm going to try it as is for a bit since this is my daily driver.
Battery drain won't be an issue for you then. Be sure to Bark, burble, and pop!
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KrikGS
Really? Then you may want to take a closer look:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...with-pics.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-failure.html

A couple other guys with 2017's chimed in within these two threads stating their 2017's are exhibiting the same issues.

Granted, CorvettePride, GlassRoad, and QuickRoad should be ignored because they are the same person trolling. However, cjlinares hasn't even voted yet and he is taking his 2017 to Stingray Chevrolet this Wednesday for possible torque converter failure.

I'm not saying the sky is falling and every 2017 is going to be exhibiting failure, but it's already documented that some 2017's are affected. Ask me how I know.
How do you know?
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 01:21 PM
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Jeez Bike, . . . how hard is it for you to click the links in the post you responded to?

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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
pulse width controlling the TCC could cause that i bet?

"hmmmn....hmmmn.....hmmmn....hmmmn.. .." no noise, just an oscillating sensation that i've experienced from time to time. but mine is so new i've noticed it when it had only 60 miles on it chalked it up to breaking in, maybe trans learning (locking converter too early) etc.
Yeah, it would be interesting to know what's causing the sensation. You'll have to watch if its only occurring in V4. I would think there are a bunch of possibilities such as feeling the affects of PWM, PWM not working to control vibrations, TCC not working correctly, etc.

I have noticed that some of the Camaro guys are describing a different NVH sensation than the C7 guys. It sounds more like a chatter when going between V4 and V8 and back rather than continual shudder during V4. I am thinking this might be due to the torque tube arrangement or different tuning of how shudder is mitigated. Camaro guys are also getting a different fix. First the dealer is to try doing a fluid flush and filter replacement 3X before doing the TC. I am guessing the flush is to get debris, maybe clutch debris, out of the system to reduce clutch chatter.

It would be great if GM (or aftermarket guys) would give some actual technical debrief for us gear heads.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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When people say shudder going into v4 do you really mean like a vibration in the car? Is it one vibration or does it shudder the whole time in v4?

When mine goes to v4 I don't have a physical shudder, its very smooth, but I can "feel" when it does it

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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:16 PM
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So my wife told me I ought to buy a new sports car for my 65th birthday. I chose the 15 A8 Z51 you see in my avatar. Now she wants a new one for her 65th too. The general no longer makes the Caddy SRX she loves and have replaced it with the XT5 in 2016. I got excited about finding out about all of the autonomous safety features that she could have but then the salesman on the phone said it also featured an A8 transmission. Just what I need another reason to hold my breath and pray.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedUp
When people say shudder going into v4 do you really mean like a vibration in the car? Is it one vibration or does it shudder the whole time in v4?

When mine goes to v4 I don't have a physical shudder, its very smooth, but I can "feel" when it does it
My car was seamless going in and out of V4. The shuddering was while at a constant speed in V4 mode. It was three slight jerks in a row followed by a couple seconds of smooth then three jerks over and over until it went into V8 mode.
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
It was three slight jerks in a row followed by a couple seconds of smooth then three jerks over and over until it went into....
dear Penthouse ... lol

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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
My car was seamless going in and out of V4. The shuddering was while at a constant speed in V4 mode. It was three slight jerks in a row followed by a couple seconds of smooth then three jerks over and over until it went into V8 mode.
I don't think vibration caused by V4 would be so consistent. So its probably the PWM frequency, but still doesn't explain why it jerks. Maybe it is the clutch chattering.

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It was three slight jerks in a row followed by a couple seconds of smooth then three jerks over and over until it went
That's what she said.
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