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iTunes does it. I’m not familiar with others but I’m sure they exist.
Last time I installed iTunes on a computer (non Apple) the software took it upon itself to totally rearrange the locations where the music was stored. The software built folders for each author and then moved that author's music into those folders. My wife had all the music in folders where she had classified the music by type. Totally hosed up her filing system.
Last time I installed iTunes on a computer (non Apple) the software took it upon itself to totally rearrange the locations where the music was stored. The software built folders for each author and then moved that author's music into those folders. My wife had all the music in folders where she had classified the music by type. Totally hosed up her filing system.
Don't be so hard on the OP. Perhaps he want a CD player for the same reason I want one - Sound Quality!!!!MP3s suck in regard to quality. No matter what rate you use - I have Spotify and set the download to "extreme" and my ears have absolutely no problem differentiating between a download and a disc. Convenience has become more important to the tone deaf masses.
Now, if we are talking FLAC downloads, well that's a different animal entirely....
Don't be so hard on the OP. Perhaps he want a CD player for the same reason I want one - Sound Quality!!!!MP3s suck in regard to quality. No matter what rate you use - I have Spotify and set the download to "extreme" and my ears have absolutely no problem differentiating between a download and a disc. Convenience has become more important to the tone deaf masses.
Now, if we are talking FLAC downloads, well that's a different animal entirely....
Streaming services are bandwidth limited and are compressed. Sound quality will always be worse in that situation. It is why XM gets complaints.
If you use 256 kpbs on a USB stick (so uncompressed outside of the MP3 format it is nearly impossible to tell the difference). If you use 302 kpbs it is impossible as that is the rate CDs are actually encoded in.
Love how these guys make it seem like a CD player is like from 20 years ago. Geez. I asked the same question when I bought my 18 GS. lol. c'mon guys
Both 8 Tracks and Tape Decks got obsoleted faster. 8 tracks I think were in cars 5 or 10 years. Tape decks at most 25. CDs are from 1985 and wide use by 1990. That was 27 years ago. This is pretty normal for things going away.
Due to the inherent acoustic limitations of a car interior and the small-footprint sound equipment (players, speakers, amps, etc.) required to fit inside a vehicle, audio sound reproduction needs every bit of fidelity it can get.
This is why compressed audio is the ***** from an audiophile POV.
General Motors, just give us old guys our GD CD players and save the compressed streaming formats for your Gen X vehicles.
Both 8 Tracks and Tape Decks got obsoleted faster. 8 tracks I think were in cars 5 or 10 years. Tape decks at most 25. CDs are from 1985 and wide use by 1990. That was 27 years ago. This is pretty normal for things going away.
Yeah, but what I meant was some cars still come with them. At least my 2013 ford still had it. Thats my newest until now.
Yeah, but what I meant was some cars still come with them. At least my 2013 ford still had it. Thats my newest until now.
My ST has one too (it's also a 2013 Ford), but like Tape decks (where the phase out was over 5 years if not longer). This will take some time.
I can't see a new car designed after 2015 and released after 2020 as a new model coming with a CD Player. It will be de-contented out. I'm actually shocked we still have AM radios in the cars. I'd gather all we'd get now is FM/SiriusXM/Aux/USB options.
My ST has one too (it's also a 2013 Ford), but like Tape decks (where the phase out was over 5 years if not longer). This will take some time.
I can't see a new car designed after 2015 and released after 2020 as a new model coming with a CD Player. It will be de-contented out. I'm actually shocked we still have AM radios in the cars. I'd gather all we'd get now is FM/SiriusXM/Aux/USB options.
Are any new cars now still coming out with CD's or do you think everyone is fazing them out by now?
Hard to say. Some brands may let them linger longer. GM was one of the last to remove tape decks (Honda and Toyota I think also took forever). I think the last tape deck car was sold in 2009, it could have been a Toyota. So I think we'll see some with CD drives until middle next decade (as old models and platforms linger on), but they will be the exception, not the rule.
But for sure, in luxury brands they will be gone during the next revisions of the whatever infotainment system they have. Regular brands will then follow, with the people getting the most out of old hardware being the last to change.
If you use 302 kpbs it is impossible as that is the rate CDs are actually encoded in.
CDs are actually 1411.2kbps. 320kbps MP3 isn't transparent, but it's fine for a car environment. You're not going to be able to tell the difference unless you're wearing headphones or have some good sound equipment and listening in a quiet room . . . neither of which is happening in the car.
The people that say they can are listening via bluetooth streaming, which compresses the already compressed stream, which is why it doesn't sound as good.
IF manufacturers don't want to give us CD players, then OK...fine.
In which case, they need to AT LEAST give us someplace in the car to install one.
The C7 does NOT, and that is my complaint.
Last edited by sunsalem; Nov 27, 2017 at 02:52 AM.
CDs are actually 1411.2kbps. 320kbps MP3 isn't transparent, but it's fine for a car environment. You're not going to be able to tell the difference unless you're wearing headphones or have some good sound equipment and listening in a quiet room . . . neither of which is happening in the car.
The people that say they can are listening via bluetooth streaming, which compresses the already compressed stream, which is why it doesn't sound as good.