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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ExRedRacer
Hmmm....


Last time I checked, the 5 hp difference was between NPP and non-NPP cars.
That's correct, 455HP for non-NPP Stingrays and 460 for those with NPP.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 02:53 PM
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If you want the wide body go ahead and do it right and get a Z06. I currently have a Z51 and will be swapping to a Z06 next year if not before.
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Originally Posted by Billy346
If I was going to go with a wide body, I would probably move up to the Z06.
Exactly.


For a while, I thought my next move would be a GS, but why bother if I have 99% of the same performance with my Little Blue Z51? if I move up, it will be to a Z06 to make the change worth it and not just cosmetic.



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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
I think the GS is officially listed as having 465 HP to the base;s 460HP.
Wrong
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ExRedRacer
Exactly.
For a while, I thought my next move would be a GS, but why bother if I have 99% of the same performance with my Little Blue Z51? if I move up, it will be to a Z06 to make the change worth it and not just cosmetic.
Life is good...
Of course there's the matter of the extra $14,000 (or $74 per HP) difference in cost from the GS to Z06. To some that's quite a bit of $$, other's not so much.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 04:20 PM
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If you're looking for a straight line car, you prob want the Stingray. Less weight, less cost, softer suspension, a lot less drag.

I noticed the Z51 feeling a little quicker than my GS in a straight line. I doubt it makes much of a difference until about 70+ anyway.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
Of course there's the matter of the extra $14,000 (or $74 per HP) difference in cost from the GS to Z06. To some that's quite a bit of $$, other's not so much.
True dat.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
Of course there's the matter of the extra $14,000 (or $74 per HP) difference in cost from the GS to Z06. To some that's quite a bit of $$, other's not so much.
Ha, yeah, that was the difference for me, only a $3k upgrade to GS from z51, but about $15k upgrade from a GS to a Z51.

I honestly thought I was going to regret not getting a Z06 but so far I haven't even used all the power the GS has. Unless you're racing your car, the base, Z51 or GS is more than enough for cruising around, and if that's the case, once again it comes down to the looks - do you like the more involved look of the GS or the more simplistic base/Z51.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
Ok, let's say GS isn't necessarily faster so we can avoid having to come up with an exact definition of 'faster' that everyone will agree with and just say GM officially reports the GS as having a lower time in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile and you will be hard-pressed to find anywhere Stingray (base or Z51) has turned in a lower time in any organized/official track testing. C&D lightning lap, for example, the GS ran 2:47.1 the Z51 2:53.8.
Yes, both of your answers are correct as was mine. As far as lap times on a road course, the Z51 is probably "faster" between the curves and slower in the curves, which I'm including braking into and accelerating out of curves.

But you are correct that we (including me) make assumptions as to what the OP meant when he asked which is faster.

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Originally Posted by JerryU
Joe, you got it wrong!
Mobil 1 is coming from a Base C7. And you would be correct that is a $10,000 difference from a Base to a GS!
I don't have it wrong." You, and all the other keyboard street racers over 70 years old will never see another "race." You post pictures of your bad as street rod with two foot wide tires and claim your GS beats everything on the road. Please.....give it a rest. You're never going to race anything or anyone else again.

The Z51, with the dry sump racing engine is all anyone ever needs on the street.

You're living in some fantasy world, Jerry. No one's going to street race you now or ever.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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If you street race, I honestly hope that you get caught and the judge throws the ******* book at you. I want to see your license revoked for a couple of years and when you do get it back, your insurance rates are so high you need to pay for them with solid gold bars.

You're worse than somebody driving drunk.
And you are delusional & probably drunk.

You've never raced anything or anybody in probably 40 years. You're another keyboard bad *** that claims his Corvette is the baddest thing in America. You wouldn't know what to do with a C7 ZO6.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
If you're looking for a straight line car, you prob want the Stingray. Less weight, less cost, softer suspension, a lot less drag.

I noticed the Z51 feeling a little quicker than my GS in a straight line. I doubt it makes much of a difference until about 70+ anyway.
It's a no-brainer - the Z51 Stingray will beat any GS driven by the 70+ year old keyboard badasses here. It's a given.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

You're living in some fantasy world, Jerry. No one's going to street race you now or ever.
Your right! As I said I stopped being "Stupid" when I was 19-suggest anyone who street races still is!!

Dam nice fantasy world- ready to buy a C8 soon after it comes out! I'll leave my racing to driving someone else's properly prepared car at The Petty Driving Experience.



That Smile is after going ~165 into turn 3 at Charlotte! Not as fast as Richard who was there to great sponsors when they finished!

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:51 PM
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Post all the pictures of yesteryear you want to Jerry - you're not a street racer, and your cars are not racing anyone on the street. Your GS is only going to impress you and your lonely cul-de-sac, hopefully you won't kill anybody playing race car driver.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
That's correct, 455HP for non-NPP Stingrays and 460 for those with NPP.
https://www.chevrolet.com/previous-y...ort-sports-car

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460/465
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ExRedRacer
Exactly.


For a while, I thought my next move would be a GS, but why bother if I have 99% of the same performance with my Little Blue Z51? if I move up, it will be to a Z06 to make the change worth it and not just cosmetic.



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One reason is that the traction control and nannies that keep you out of the weeds are calibrated for the base/Z51/GS mid-400 HP levels. Which could explain why it doesn't seem to be able to respond fast enough to stop Z06 drivers from crashing.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Post all the pictures of yesteryear you want to Jerry - you're not a street racer, and your cars are not racing anyone on the street. Your GS is only going to impress you and your lonely cul-de-sac, hopefully you won't kill anybody playing race car driver.
Joe, most of your posts are off the wall, occasionally I see a light of hope but afraid that is just luck!

I started this off saying your statement that a GS was $10,000 more than a Z51 was wrong, which it was! You come back with foolish rhetoric that makes no sense. One wonders what you're smoking!

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
I think the GS is officially listed as having 465 HP to the base;s 460HP.
Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Grandsports do not have 465HP, they 460HP, base Stingrays have 455HP, unless the have the NPP exhaust option which boosts them up to 460HP.

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Joe, most of your posts are off the wall, occasionally I see a light of hope but afraid that is just luck!

I started this off saying your statement that a GS was $10,000 more than a Z51 was wrong, which it was! You come back with foolish rhetoric that makes no sense. One wonders what you're smoking!
Crazy Jerry, ALL of your posts are off the wall!.

You don't race anybody in your GS, OR your 90 year old has been street rod. You're well over the hill and aren't ever going to race anyone again. Certainly not CF7 forum members!

Quit acting like you do!

You must be smoking dope around the clock! You sure look like it!!

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 10:25 PM
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How so?
I can't compare mine to a Stingray, having never driven one, but I really love the MRC on the GS. Interiors are the same, but wow, the ride is smooth
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