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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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One more reason too try to purchase New.At the price of this car and the amount of daily drivers in all climates.You just don't know the previous owners habit's?
Beating's and speeding over **** roads swayed me to new.
These cars ain't built like tanks with heavy alloys.Their built for precise handling and speed.You use it with abuse get out the wallet.
Tire and wheel bills are the price to pay to play.The reduction in the selling price will likely go toward the previous owners usage.
On the other hand a low mileage garage queen maybe worth the extra cash.

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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 02:00 PM
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One more reason to stay away from cars with leather dashes. Chevy said they fixed the supplier issue before the end of the C6 run, yet later C6s had it. Some of the C7s have issues, who wants to bet the C8s won't have shrinkage problems?

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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 05:31 PM
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Sounds like the OP has had car issues not mater what car you have purchased. I'm not a GM fan, but own 2 Corvettes (2019 and 1979 corvettes.) I'm 63 and my 2019 Corvette has probably been to the dealership more times in 18 months of ownership than every car I have own combined. Most all my Toyota's have never see the dealership once I drive off the lot. I knew what I was getting into buying a GM product and expected more trips to the dealership. My only issue is I won't own a GM product without a warranty. When the warranty runs out, the GM car in my garage gets sold. Not to say I wouldn't buy another. GM just does not make a high quality car. Japanese and German cars are top shelve in my history of ownership.

Quality is just not at the top of the list for any GM product.

But love driving my Corvettes!!!!!

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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 10:16 PM
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Anybody who thinks 100,000 miles is a high mileage vehicle knows nothing about automobiles and has a lose screw in the head. Never had an automobile with less than 300,000 before I got rid of it.
I've owned many cars for over 40 years and the only one that had anywhere close 100,000 miles is my 2002 Ford F-150 Supercrew we bought new that went over 100,000 miles last year. It had rarely had any issues, but in the past year it has had five big issues. I told my wife if I have to spend anymore money on it, I'm getting rid of it. To me it isn't reliable anymore. No way would I trust it on a road trip. It has sentimental value to her so she wants to keep it.

I have purchased used vehicles in the past, but 25,000 miles is the highest I will go.
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 10:43 PM
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I've owned many cars for over 40 years and the only one that had anywhere close 100,000 miles is my 2002 Ford F-150 Supercrew we bought new that went over 100,000 miles last year. It had rarely had any issues, but in the past year it has had five big issues. I told my wife if I have to spend anymore money on it, I'm getting rid of it. To me it isn't reliable anymore. No way would I trust it on a road trip. It has sentimental value to her so she wants to keep it.

I have purchased used vehicles in the past, but 25,000 miles is the highest I will go.
Maintenance is the key. If the previous owners kept all records which would suggest he/she was on the ball with all maintenance and cared for their vehicle then 25,000 miles on a vehicle is practically brand new. Also what matters is where is the vehicle from. Was the vehicle driven mostly in pot hole laden snowy Michigan or from the smooth, pot hole less state of sunny Florida? I purchase all my cars new and keep meticulous records of all the maintenance I perform. I perform most maintenance if I have all the prerequisite tools necessary to perform the job. I don't track or abuse my vehicles. Give them what they need. Pray I never get in an accident and with a little luck I should be able to easily achieve 200,000 to 300,000 miles on most vehicles. I think you would be surprised just how many people there are that own vehciles with 500,000 to 600,000 miles on their vehicles.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Anybody who thinks 100,000 miles is a high mileage vehicle knows nothing about automobiles and has a lose screw in the head. Never had an automobile with less than 300,000 before I got rid of it.
Let's see if your C7 gets 300,000 miles on it?

80,000 to 100,000 miles stuff starts to go. I've done 300,000+ twice. It's cheaper than upgrading vehicles, but becomes a real hassle.

A fruitcake on another forum, put like 700,000 miles on his car and the sedan unibody was literally cracking / breaking in half at the B pillars from rusting through. He paid a Mercedes Benz dealer to put a new small block in the car at an expense of like $5K+. Some people cannot be reasoned with. He took so much bashing & ribbing from the forum, he stormed off. All had a good laugh.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 07:06 AM
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OP, you stated that you bought with 50K on the clock?
- Do you have any idea of where this Vette was prior to you owning? Was it in a extremely hot location?
- Do you have any idea of how it was treated? Garaged; Always parked outside; proper cleaning/protectants used?

Please don't take it the wrong way, definitely not bashing you or your post , but how it was treated before you is going to matter.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Let's see if your C7 gets 300,000 miles on it?

80,000 to 100,000 miles stuff starts to go. I've done 300,000+ twice. It's cheaper than upgrading vehicles, but becomes a real hassle.

A fruitcake on another forum, put like 700,000 miles on his car and the sedan unibody was literally cracking / breaking in half at the B pillars from rusting through. He paid a Mercedes Benz dealer to put a new small block in the car at an expense of like $5K+. Some people cannot be reasoned with. He took so much bashing & ribbing from the forum, he stormed off. All had a good laugh.

I won't be alive to drive my Corvette this many miles. I have had my 19 GS for 2 years and only have 15,000 miles on it. Do the math. I no longer commute 100 miles a day like I used to. I am comfortably retired now. I truly believe getting 200,000 miles on this engine should not be an issue if properly cared for. The most difficult aspect of trying to maintain the C7 long term will be the electronics. There are too many and electronics never hold up well long term. I can't find a television monitor that lasts more than 2 years. How long do you think MyLink will last?
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Dude you should sell it and get rid of the problems..... I had problems like that on my C5 got rid of it, a car is something you should enjoy not wonder if it is going to start or break down on you the next drive
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 09:39 AM
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Dude you should sell it and get rid of the problems..... I had problems like that on my C5 got rid of it, a car is something you should enjoy not wonder if it is going to start or break down on you the next drive
Well if he sells it then it goes to some smuck and what does he do...sell it? What do you tell the smuck...sorry sucker?
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Maintenance is the key. If the previous owners kept all records which would suggest he/she was on the ball with all maintenance and cared for their vehicle then 25,000 miles on a vehicle is practically brand new. Also what matters is where is the vehicle from. Was the vehicle driven mostly in pot hole laden snowy Michigan or from the smooth, pot hole less state of sunny Florida? I purchase all my cars new and keep meticulous records of all the maintenance I perform. I perform most maintenance if I have all the prerequisite tools necessary to perform the job. I don't track or abuse my vehicles. Give them what they need. Pray I never get in an accident and with a little luck I should be able to easily achieve 200,000 to 300,000 miles on most vehicles. I think you would be surprised just how many people there are that own vehciles with 500,000 to 600,000 miles on their vehicles.
I keep up with all the maintenance on my vehicles, even my 18 year old F-150. With around 103,000 miles, it has never dripped a single drop of anything on the ground, and there isn't even a light film of soot in the tailpipe. But it is getting old, and parts are wearing out. I get no enjoyment out of replacing parts all the time, or worrying if it want stop running when I'm on the other side of town. It's done that to me twice in the past year. I've had check engine lights three times this year, so now I leave a code scanner in the vehicle. I have have several other vehicles to drive which shows why the F-150 doesn't have twice as many miles on it. It used to be my most reliable vehicle, now it is the worse. I don't want to buy a new truck, but a vehicle you can't depend on isn't worth much.

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Well if he sells it then it goes to some smuck and what does he do...sell it? What do you tell the smuck...sorry sucker?
Anyone who buys a high mileage vehicle should what they are getting into. Low price to purchase, but higher cost for maintenance.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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I think the OP was referring to the fact that the car is falling apart after 5 years (or less).
While most forum members are dedicated Corvette lovers, we must all face the fact that GM is less than consumer oriented.
I keep hearing the term "Bang for the buck". I think that is a shoddy excuse for leaking gas tanks, delaminating dashes,
cracking wheels, failing BB engines, clutch master cylinders, etc. These are are problems that the community has had to face
in the last 25 years.
Some of these issues have gone on for far too long. The General cares less and less.
For example I owned a 2004 CE coupe and the clear top was fine when I sold it in 2019. What happened to the OP's 2015??
Sooner or later, the bang for the buck is not going to make up for the less than stellar life cycle of the car.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 10:46 AM
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A vehicle's condition is based on how it was treated during it's life.

According to the OP, the car is five years old, and he owned it for almost three years. Not sure of its overall condition when he bought it, or how many miles it had at the time. If it was rode hard and put away wet in its first two years, that would reflect on its condition after five years. Or maybe he just got a bad vehicle that had issues from day one, and the original owner got rid of it? He said it has 87,000 miles on it now so perhaps his issues are normal wear and tear?

My Corvette only has 24,000 miles on it. It may take another 12 years before I get close to 87k miles. I will most likely sell it and buy something new well before then. Hopefully the next owner will treat it as well as I have and won't have any issues with it.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ByRiver
I keep up with all the maintenance on my vehicles, even my 18 year old F-150. With around 103,000 miles, it has never dripped a single drop of anything on the ground, and there isn't even a light film of soot in the tailpipe. But it is getting old, and parts are wearing out. I get no enjoyment out of replacing parts all the time, or worrying if it want stop running when I'm on the other side of town. It's done that to me twice in the past year. I've had check engine lights three times this year, so now I leave a code scanner in the vehicle. I have have several other vehicles to drive which shows why the F-150 doesn't have twice as many miles on it. It used to be my most reliable vehicle, now it is the worse. I don't want to buy a new truck, but a vehicle you can't depend on isn't worth much.



Anyone who buys a high mileage vehicle should what they are getting into. Low price to purchase, but higher cost for maintenance.
I agree. I just replace parts and fluids as they are needed. I know it can be a pain in the keister but it comes with the territory. Most everything needs maintenance. At some point the total cost of the parts amount to more than the dollar amount you could sell the vehicle for. The advantage though is an older vehicle can get lower insurance premiums as well as lower property taxes in the vehicle. Every decision you make in life will require choices where you assess benefits to you. I try to make good choices that will hopefully save me $$$. To me maintaining my vehicles has always been a high priority. Vehicles need to be reliable.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:59 AM
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Well if he sells it then it goes to some smuck and what does he do...sell it? What do you tell the smuck...sorry sucker?
The seller can sell it to any dealer w/o a guilty conscience. It's up to the dealer to do the inspection to determine what it thinks the car is worth. If the seller sells it privately, it's still up to the buyer to do his/her due diligence in order to determine the condition of the car and what it's worth to him/her.

It would behove the seller to be open and transparent about any problems but, if he does not make any false representations about the car, tells the buyer that it is an "as is" sale, he really has no responsibility to disclose any problems w/the car.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Let's see if your C7 gets 300,000 miles on it?

80,000 to 100,000 miles stuff starts to go.
This is NOT my experience.

I currently own an Ford F250 7.3L Diesel w/over 220k miles on it (that I bought w/200k miles already on it. I also own a 2008 BMW 335i and a 2012 MB ML350 both with over 100k miles on them that I bought w/over 80k and 90k miles, respectively, on them. I've owned the F250 for 10 years, the BMW for 6 years and the MB for 4 years. I've had no extraordinary problems (beyond normal wear/tear) with any of them.

Just bought a 2000 Porsche 911 C4 Cab last year with 90k miles on it (92k miles now) which cost me money to sort out problems not addressed by the prior owner but have had no problems since. Also own a 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder w/55k miles on it that I bought 16 years ago and also has never caused me any problems beyond normal wear/tear.

Just bought my 2014 Z51 7MT a couple months ago w/only 30k miles on it. Just spent $ on new brakes/tires and an alignment to bring it up to snuff. There are also some cosmetic issues that I still need to address but these have nothing to do w/the reliability of the car which has been faultless so far.

I have no problem selling any vehicle if/when it becomes a problem but there has only been 1 car and 1 motorcycle in the 55 years that I've been driving, out of the roughly 100 vehicles (cars, trucks and motorcycles) that I've owned/leased over these many years, that ever gave me the motivation to do so and neither vehicle had more than 80-100k miles on them.

The car which was a early 1960's Austin Healy Sprite was a PITA because the clutch slave cylinder kept going out and you had to remove the entire engine to fix it. Traded the Sprite for a late 60's Trimuph Bonneville motorcycle that I loved but had it's own problems.

The motorcycle was an early 90's BMW K1200RS that kept leaking oil that the dealer couldn't explain or fix. Traded the K1200 in for for a 1998 Ducati 998 which never gave me any problems but that I sold because I never rode it enough and didn't have enough $ then (as I do now) to just keep idle motor vehicles sitting around.

Otherwise, my experience w/motor vehicles has been positive and largely trouble free.

Just lucky I guess.

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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 12:47 PM
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Every once in a while someone gets a lemon. I have been fortunate with my 2016 Stingray. Over 130,000 miles now and the only issue I ever had was replacing the belt tensioner pulley under warranty and one other. The windshield had the infamous crack in the corner right after I bought it replaced under warranty.
The new Z06 has been great for 26,000 miles. The only problem was the torque tube had to be replaced and the belt tensioner pulley had to be replaced. These have been the best cars I have ever owned fun wise and reliability wise.
I have driven the holy bajesus out of both these cars. They have taken a lick'n and keep on tick'n.
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRACER
OP, you stated that you bought with 50K on the clock?
- Do you have any idea of where this Vette was prior to you owning? Was it in a extremely hot location?
- Do you have any idea of how it was treated? Garaged; Always parked outside; proper cleaning/protectants used?

Please don't take it the wrong way, definitely not bashing you or your post , but how it was treated before you is going to matter.
I know it was in Florida for 2 years. The dealer that took in the car had done all the inspections etc to have it as certified preowned car just did not spend the money to complete the process. While looking at the car called my service writer that services all my cars at the chevy dealer on the car he checked the files and there wasnt any problems with car on its history. I dont have any idea how the was treated as far as driving but it had to be alot of highway miles with that many in 2 years. The condition of the paint and interior were all immaculate so it appeared to be well taken care
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 02:09 PM
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Well if he sells it then it goes to some smuck and what does he do...sell it? What do you tell the smuck...sorry sucker?
What does it matter? The buyer knows it's a used car. Do you want him to warranty the C5??
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Originally Posted by sgt1372
This is NOT my experience.

I currently own an Ford F250 7.3L Diesel w/over 220k miles on it (that I bought w/200k miles already on it. I also own a 2008 BMW 335i and a 2012 MB ML350 both with over 100k miles on them that I bought w/over 80k and 90k miles, respectively, on them. I've owned the F250 for 10 years, the BMW for 6 years and the MB for 4 years. I've had no extraordinary problems (beyond normal wear/tear) with any of them.

Just bought a 2000 Porsche 911 C4 Cab last year with 90k miles on it (92k miles now) which cost me money to sort out problems not addressed by the prior owner but have had no problems since. Also own a 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder w/55k miles on it that I bought 16 years ago and also has never caused me any problems beyond normal wear/tear.

Just bought my 2014 Z51 7MT a couple months ago w/only 30k miles on it. Just spent $ on new brakes/tires and an alignment to bring it up to snuff. There are also some cosmetic issues that I still need to address but these have nothing to do w/the reliability of the car which has been faultless so far.

I have no problem selling any vehicle if/when it becomes a problem but there has only been 1 car and 1 motorcycle in the 55 years that I've been driving, out of the roughly 100 vehicles (cars, trucks and motorcycles) that I've owned/leased over these many years, that ever gave me the motivation to do so and neither vehicle had more than 80-100k miles on them.

The car which was a early 1960's Austin Healy Sprite was a PITA because the clutch slave cylinder kept going out and you had to remove the entire engine to fix it. Traded the Sprite for a late 60's Trimuph Bonneville motorcycle that I loved but had it's own problems.

The motorcycle was an early 90's BMW K1200RS that kept leaking oil that the dealer couldn't explain or fix. Traded the K1200 in for for a 1998 Ducati 998 which never gave me any problems but that I sold because I never rode it enough and didn't have enough $ then (as I do now) to just keep idle motor vehicles sitting around.

Otherwise, my experience w/motor vehicles has been positive and largely trouble free.

Just lucky I guess.
You buy used stuff with lots of miles on em (200K+). I generally buy new or near new stuff. ALL new stuff starts breaking between 80K and 100K. Regardless.
If you want to spend the time and money constantly repairing them, have at it.

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