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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 08:02 AM
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I went with GM glass which is much more than aftermarket even though the GM glass tends to get stress cracks. My concern was the HUD. My insurance company was willing to pay the difference. It was about $1k for the GM glass installed. I read the reviews of the glass shops in the area and pick the one with the best reviews. After talking to them on the phone, they understood how picky Vette owners are and my decision was made. They had to order the glass, but it arrived in a few days. Two techs came out and replaced it in 45 minutes in my garage. They use two techs for Vettes, not because they are harder, just their policy for vettes. Otherwise, they just send out one tech. I would use them again.

Of course I got another chip a couple of months later! Do'oh!

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Ok here we go with all the windshield internet urban legends
Senior store keeper , read thru this post ( link below ) as I explain everything you need to know about windshields and then some, with no rumors like GM glass is better , GM Glass stress cracks , the insurance has to pay, all rumors ......read the facts here (anyone that feels the need to challenge might want to take a look at my profile, 35 years... )
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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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I went with GM glass which is much more than aftermarket even though the GM glass tends to get stress cracks. My concern was the HUD. My insurance company was willing to pay the difference. It was about $1k for the GM glass installed. I read the reviews of the glass shops in the area and pick the one with the best reviews. After talking to them on the phone, they understood how picky Vette owners are and my decision was made. They had to order the glass, but it arrived in a few days. Two techs came out and replaced it in 45 minutes in my garage. They use two techs for Vettes, not because they are harder, just their policy for vettes. Otherwise, they just send out one tech. I would use them again.

Of course I got another chip a couple of months later! Do'oh!
I think this is key. Finding a shop that has done Corvettes and has good reviews. One idea would be to ask the local dealer who does theirs. While I was working as a Lexus tech I got involved from the electrical end on a car that had a Lexus/Toyota glass in it so we assumed it was OEM. Long story short, the current owner had never replaced the w/s but the first owner had. The installer had run the end of his caulk gun type glue run about 2 inches along side of the beginning of the run. I guess he figured they would be squeezed together. Unfortunately they hadn't come together so each heavy rain that 1/32 inch gap would allow a tiny bit of water into the dash area and it worked it's way into a harness. The outside temp sensor reading would go wonky.
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Originally Posted by CraigStu
I think this is key. Finding a shop that has done Corvettes and has good reviews. One idea would be to ask the local dealer who does theirs. While I was working as a Lexus tech I got involved from the electrical end on a car that had a Lexus/Toyota glass in it so we assumed it was OEM. Long story short, the current owner had never replaced the w/s but the first owner had. The installer had run the end of his caulk gun type glue run about 2 inches along side of the beginning of the run. I guess he figured they would be squeezed together. Unfortunately they hadn't come together so each heavy rain that 1/32 inch gap would allow a tiny bit of water into the dash area and it worked it's way into a harness. The outside temp sensor reading would go wonky.
No truer words were spoken... properly trained technicians are paramount over the glass manufacturer choice for a proper install ... I can't tell you how many shops still do this overlaping today , and others not using proper primers, or protecting the bonding surface from the oils on their hands , many UTube videos show these so called "Experts" handling the glass without gloves
The passenger side airbag in most cars hits the windshield at a speed of over 250 MPH .... guess what happens if there is a bond failure...

Like I said above in the link to the last windshield post , I commented on ......

Ask questions, what type of urethane are they using (SIKA is oem ) , what type of glass primer and body primer are they using and what is the cure time for the primers they are using ( all urethanes are a system, you can't mix and match) what type of device are they using to remove the glass , if it's not a wire device , run .... what is the proper diveaway time Do they use gloves.. If so what type , surgical gloves are the worse as they contain powder that contaminates the bond area ..

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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
No truer words were spoken... properly trained technicians are paramount over the glass manufacturer choice for a proper install ... I can't tell you how many shops still do this overlaping today , and others not using proper primers, or protecting the bonding surface from the oils on their hands , many UTube videos show these so called "Experts" handling the glass without gloves
The passenger side airbag in most cars hits the windshield at a speed of over 250 MPH .... guess what happens if there is a bond failure...

Like I said above in the link to the last windshield post , I commented on ......

Ask questions, what type of urethane are they using (SIKA is oem ) , what type of glass primer and body primer are they using and what is the cure time for the primers they are using ( all urethanes are a system, you can't mix and match) what type of device are they using to remove the glass , if it's not a wire device , run .... what is the proper diveaway time Do they use gloves.. If so what type , surgical gloves are the worse as they contain powder that contaminates the bond area ..
The 3 after market windshield that they put it my car had (HUD windshield) all had double vision at night and the HUD was blurry. Same company put a GM in and it was perfect. Just took 4 windshields to get to a GM one. I had to refuse a aftermarket one. They charged 450 more the the GM.
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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by helomech
The 3 after market windshield that they put it my car had (HUD windshield) all had double vision at night and the HUD was blurry. Same company put a GM in and it was perfect. Just took 4 windshields to get to a GM one. I had to refuse a aftermarket one. They charged 450 more the the GM.
Helo , who put in ..... Safelite ...... .... we do not carry off brand glass , I think we talked about this in the last thread

No need to go OEM as the OEM is made by AGC all you had to ask for is an AGC branded glass as the only difference between the two is the GM logo in the " Bug" down in the corner , Same Glass , same bending line , same furnaces , same autoclave , same QC at the end of the line ...... you are just paying for the LOGO ...

I can assure u that curing your " blurry Hud" had nothing in the world to do with installing anOEM glass over an a quality OE glass made by AGC , Pilkington, ZYG, APTECH , Carlex or AGC who are all 1st tier suppliers to the manufacturers , I can guarantee these brands which we also carry would not produce a blurry HUD windshield , it had to be an Offshore brand like Benson, Criminex or most likely XYG ........


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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Helo , who put in ..... Safelite ...... .... we do not carry off brand glass , I think we talked about this in the last thread

No need to go OEM as the OEM is made by AGC all you had to ask for is an AGC branded glass as the only difference between the two is the GM logo in the " Bug" down in the corner , Same Glass , same bending line , same furnaces , same autoclave , same QC at the end of the line ...... you are just paying for the LOGO ...

I can assure u that curring your " blurry Hud had nothing in the world to do with installing anOEM glass over an as a quality OE glass made by AGC , Pilkington, ZYG, APTECH , Carlex or AGC who are all 1st tier suppliers to the manufacturers , I can guarantee these brands which we also carry would not produce a blurry HUD windshield , it had to be an Offshore brand like Benson, Criminex or most likely XYG ........

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Corvette world had it put in, but I don't know who they used. Corvette world was the only place I found that could get my a windshield. You are probably right, I don't know the brand they put in. I was just commenting the personal putting it in comment.

properly trained technicians are paramount over the glass manufacturer choice for a proper install

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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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As I'm sure you've already been told, be sure to use OEM glass... especially if you have a heads-up display.
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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As I'm sure you've already been told, be sure to use OEM glass... especially if you have a heads-up display.
What effect does non OEM glass have on the HUD? I don’t doubt it, just curious. Thanks.
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What effect does non OEM glass have on the HUD? I don’t doubt it, just curious. Thanks.
I had my C-6 window replaced recently. The put in 3 after market windshields in, and all had double vision. Finally got a GM and it is perfect.
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Originally Posted by helomech
I had my C-6 window replaced recently. The put in 3 after market windshields in, and all had double vision. Finally got a GM and it is perfect.
Thanks for the reply. My 15 has a non OEM windshield and while the HUD is in focus it is crooked. I’ve heard that a lot of them are like that but didn’t know if the wrong windshield could cause that.
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Originally Posted by dan1495
Thanks for the reply. My 15 has a non OEM windshield and while the HUD is in focus it is crooked. I’ve heard that a lot of them are like that but didn’t know if the wrong windshield could cause that.
A NON OEM windshield Will not , with a 100% certainty make the display crooked....... this was fixed in later years

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Originally Posted by Avanti
As I'm sure you've already been told, be sure to use OEM glass... especially if you have a heads-up display.
Here we go with those pesky internet rumors being spread around again

if I put 5 windshields up for display agaist a Zebra board ( used for distortion and clarity measurements or a white board for HUD clarity and each one was made by a reputable OE supplier ( Pilkington, ZYG , St Gobain, AP Technoglass or the NON OE AGC ) i will bet you any amount of money that you care to wager that you or anyone else could tell the difference in display properties against the OEM version of the AGC glass....

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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by helomech
I had my C-6 window replaced recently. The put in 3 after market windshields in, and all had double vision. Finally got a GM and it is perfect.
I bet that not one of those replacements was from a top tier supplier

I can show you plenty of OEM parts that have distortion in them

Just like everything else , If you buy a high quality part you will have no issues
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Here we go with those pesky internet rumors being spread around again

if I put 5 windshields up for display agaist a Zebra board ( used for distortion and clarity measurements or a white board for HUD clarity and each one was made by a reputable OE supplier ( Pilkington, ZYG , St Gobain, AP Technoglass or the NON OE AGC ) i will bet you any amount of money that you care to wager that you or anyone else could tell the difference in display properties against the OEM version of the AGC glass....

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I have no doubt you have more experience than me, but after my last windshield issue. I am buying oem if I ever need another. Not worth the hassle. 4 round trips of 120 miles each one way. I don't know who made the bad 3, but they all hurt my dominate eye driving at night and the reflections all over the windshield where horrible. This is what it looked like at night. Heads up display was also out of focus on some parts of it.


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Originally Posted by Dcasole
I bet that not one of those replacements was from a top tier supplier

I can show you plenty of OEM parts that have distortion in them

Just like everything else , If you buy a high quality part you will have no issues
You may be right, I don't know. But for me it is not worth dealing with again. Just driving back and forth cost me hundreds of dollars on top of the windshield cost.
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Originally Posted by helomech
I have no doubt you have more experience than me, but after my last windshield issue. I am buying oem if I ever need another. Not worth the hassle. 4 round trips of 120 miles each one way. I don't know who made the bad 3, but they all hurt my dominate eye driving at night and the reflections all over the windshield where horrible. This is what it looked like at night. Heads up display was also out of focus on some parts of it.

Heli , with all due respect after the first one that looked this bad I would be doubting the qualitiy of the installer that "Corvette World" was using and their installation abilities ..... after the 2nd , all of my New Jersey would be coming out all over Corvette World....

I can't even begin to tell you why that HUD looks like that, On C6 it is well known that you don't even need a HUD windshield because of where the image is projected on the windshield , it does not need the " Image Correction " that the HUD interlayer provides

There are so many HACKs out there compounded by the fact that the average consumer only has to replace a windsheld once every 7 years , leads to a uneducated consumer. All most people care about is does it look OK and all the internet urban legend about whats best ....

if you ever need another glass ( I don't want to jinx u ) just send me a PM or email as I would be glad to help you
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Heli , with all due respect after the first one that looked this bad I would be doubting the qualitiy of the installer that "Corvette World" was using and their installation abilities ..... after the 2nd , all of my New Jersey would be coming out all over Corvette World....

I can't even begin to tell you why that HUD looks like that, On C6 it is well known that you don't even need a HUD windshield because of where the image is projected on the windshield , it does not need the " Image Correction " that the HUD interlayer provides

There are so many HACKs out there compounded by the fact that the average consumer only has to replace a windsheld once every 7 years , leads to a uneducated consumer. All most people care about is does it look OK and all the internet urban legend about whats best ....

if you ever need another glass ( I don't want to jinx u ) just send me a PM or email as I would be glad to help you
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They said they do about 20 windshields a week. The same installer did all 4, and the 4th one is great. No issues at all.

Thanks

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I am considering replacing the windshield in my 15 Z06 because of cosmetic reasons. It has a light windshield wiper scratch on it and a few minor rock flecks it has gotten over the years of driving. Am wondering if anyone has had a windshield replaced and who did it and did they do a good job. Have checked price online at Safelite auto glass, price seems to be reasonable, was just wondering if anyone had used them or if perhaps a dealership or a specialty shop would be a better place to carry it. Thanks
no brainer. Have to use OEM glass, especially if you have head up display. I do not have HUD

doesnt make sense to use aftermarket glass

my deductible is $250 for windshield crack which unfortunately happened to me earlier this year on my 19 stingray. I pay $250 deductible. That means it doesn’t matter if the windshield is $1000 or $400, I only pay $250.

with that said, the OEM is most expensive but the installer has to submit a request for approval on why OEM is needed. Reason he submitted was the clarity of glass on aftermarket was unacceptable to customer. liberty mutual approved the request and covered my OEM glass. I paid only $250, insurance company pays the rest

dont discount the importance of front windshield glass
1. clarity in reflecting daylight and headlight of oncoming cars, not to mention providing clarity at nighttime
2. barrier in case you get hit in a car accident. Good glass will prevent damage from coming in but will also prevent occupants from being ejected

aftermarker glass meets the standards but OEM for corvette exceeds it in my opinion
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