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Sorry to be the **** in the lake but I have to put in my honest opinion so that people aren't getting flash-blinded by the herd-praising that I see to often on here. Yes it does exactly what it advertises that it does. However, to me it was like using a hammer to put a push pin into the wall. I am very particular with modifications causing collateral changes, and I for one did not like how it made my A8 behave. Thanks for reading
Def takes a bit of getting used to it. Its not for everyone. I rarely shill for any company or product, except in this case. My RT at the track has gotten better with this device, reducing the lag of movement. Its just a TC ... nothing to get worked up over. Put it in OE... remove it... whatever. What makes this particular TC different? @Mike@SolerEngr , that's what.
He makes good stuff. He answers questions QUICKLY. He'll walk someone through an entire throttle body and throttle controller installation. I challenge any company to be as responsive as Mike at Soler. So, no... not herd-praise: specific, to the point praise.
Anyway... for those still trying to figure out where to put the display unit for controlling the responsiveness, here's where I put mine. My goal was to make the modification as least intrusive as possible. I didn't want to drill any holes and I didn't want things on my dash taking away from the natural state of the Vette and it's clean style on the inside. So I velcro'd it to the driveshaft tunnel by my right knee. Can still access/see it, adjust it, and it keeps it out of the way. I've noticed that I don't really adjust it at all. I set it once and am done.
I'm still dialing mine in, after installing it last week, but I'm happy with it so far. Like you, I wanted to install it as unobtrusively as possible while making no permanent modifications (e.g., drilling holes). Toward that end, I wired it into the console...
Originally Posted by Elk
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having, and expressing, an opinion of any product. But referring to others as "flash-blinded by the herd-praising" is unnecessary.
Most agree the throttle progression is unpleasantly unresponsive when the car is placed in weather mode (invoking the weather throttle progression settings). Whereas most would similarly agree the car is a great deal more responsive and enjoyable when placed in track mode with the accompanying track throttle progression programming. Yes, the car is ultimately going to make the same peak horsepower at WOT in either setting, but it is a great deal more fun to get there in track mode.
The Soler throttle controller does the same thing, but is vastly more versatile and can be dialed into the individual driver's preferences.
I find it difficult to imagine one cannot find a throttle progression setting on the Soler TC which is vastly more satisfying and enjoyable than the limited stock options. But you may be this person. There is nothing wrong with this, but this hardly means the rest are "flash-blinded."
Just came back from a little drive and for fun I thought I would try LU9. I was surprised it was quite manageable, definately not hard to drive. I will spend more time at that level and see how it goes. I think having a manual allows you to finesse the gas pedal and clutch to maintain control for starting off, the only downside may be you are at max rpm's pretty quick.
Definitely not going to reduce best possible acceleration times. *If you know how to stage and drive a car at a dragstrip, you’ll have identical times with or without it.
You might get better reaction times with it if you don’t know how to compensate for throttle response, but RT doesn’t effect ET whatsoever.
It’s great that you really like it, but be careful not to be misleading that it will improve 0 to 60 performance.
Please reread my post carefully and I quote (second one is what it feels like and not actual number). This is all about reading and comprehension, I'm not misleading anything, I also put it in parentheses it's a feeling. It's all about the sensation of accelerating faster.
I just edited the post so no one can say I was misleading. Saying it twice should be good now?
Please reread my post carefully and I quote (second one is what it feels like and not actual number). This is all about reading and comprehension, I'm not misleading anything, I also put it in parentheses it's a feeling. It's all about the sensation of accelerating faster.
I just edited the post so no one can say I was misleading. Saying it twice should be good now?
It was quite clear the first time, some people need a little help understanding. lol.
Please reread my post carefully and I quote (second one is what it feels like and not actual number). This is all about reading and comprehension, I'm not misleading anything, I also put it in parentheses it's a feeling. It's all about the sensation of accelerating faster.
I just edited the post so no one can say I was misleading. Saying it twice should be good now?
How can 4.4 seconds “feel like” 3.0 seconds? It can’t, because it’s still 4.4 seconds from 0. Time is time, lol.
I’ve driven lots of cars with pedal boxes / remapped throttle. It’s just not for me. For goodness sake, don’t ever drive a turbocharged car. Throttle control from a stock LT1 is razor precise compared to that.
Originally Posted by jaiyenyen
It was quite clear the first time, some people need a little help understanding. lol.
His inference was crystal clear. Surely an opposing view in a product discussion thread is harmless?
And now I digress, fellas. If you’re happy with your purchase, that’s all that matters! I came in here looking for more information on the throttle body, and clearly landed in the wrong thread. Take care.
And now I digress, fellas. If you’re happy with your purchase, that’s all that matters! I came in here looking for more information on the throttle body, and clearly landed in the wrong thread. Take care.
So, what? Another 20 or so years.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. #BeSafe
Just put in the Soler Throttle controller, what a wake up! I've been hesitant to put it in but I must say it feels like a different car response wise. I carried the unit around for 9 months but kick myself for all the fun I have missed. Thanks Soler.
I'm still dialing mine in, after installing it last week, but I'm happy with it so far. Like you, I wanted to install it as unobtrusively as possible while making no permanent modifications (e.g., drilling holes). Toward that end, I wired it into the console...
I'm thinking of ordering the TC and never thought of this location but certainly seems to be the most unobtrusive. Did not know the wiring was long enough for this location. How did you run the wiring from the pedal to the console?
I put a strip of the hook side industrial strength Velcro on the back and stuck it to the carpet, then ran the cord behind the carpet up to the dashboard where I used velcro again to position the TC
This is exactly what I did too. I currently run at SP 6 but may try 7 soon. It’s a great product and makes spirited driving Fun!
I'm thinking of ordering the TC and never thought of this location but certainly seems to be the most unobtrusive. Did not know the wiring was long enough for this location. How did you run the wiring from the pedal to the console?
Wiring was just long enough for this install. I put the controller's "black box" behind/under the carpet. That allowed me to snake the wire you see behind/under the carpet, along the driver's side of the torque tube, all the way to the rear of the console. I removed the snapped-in piece that covers two nuts holding the rear of the console in place, giving me access to loosen the nuts and pass the wire thru the closest hole (next to the nut) and into the console. Hope that makes sense?
I installed the controller about 4-5 days ago and used the car only once when I installed it. This morning the car wouldn't start, it cranked a bit and died. It did that 4-5 times until the engine finally sputtered and started with "engine reduced speed". I re-set the controller, hooked my OBD 2 scanner to erase the engine code and it worked fine until I went to do some groceries and the car wouldn't start again, after 6-8 attempts of starting the car I had to reset the controller and I had also brought the scanner to remove the engine code. I was about to get my knees in the rain soaked pavement and ratchet out the gas pedal and put the stock connecter back in. Luckily it started and I was okay for the rest of the day.
I'll call them this week to see what's the issue but before I do I was wondering if any body had the same issue and what they ended up doing.
I had a similar problem... the car would intermittently go into limp mode and the OBD threw a P2138 Throttle/Pedal Pos Sensor Voltage Correlation DTC.
Mike indicated the TC unit's low setting was throwing the code. He sent a new TC and it worked great OOB.
I installed the controller about 4-5 days ago and used the car only once when I installed it. This morning the car wouldn't start, it cranked a bit and died. It did that 4-5 times until the engine finally sputtered and started with "engine reduced speed". I re-set the controller, hooked my OBD 2 scanner to erase the engine code and it worked fine until I went to do some groceries and the car wouldn't start again, after 6-8 attempts of starting the car I had to reset the controller and I had also brought the scanner to remove the engine code. I was about to get my knees in the rain soaked pavement and ratchet out the gas pedal and put the stock connecter back in. Luckily it started and I was okay for the rest of the day.
I'll call them this week to see what's the issue but before I do I was wondering if any body had the same issue and what they ended up doing.
Originally Posted by jimmbbo
I had a similar problem... the car would intermittently go into limp mode and the OBD threw a P2138 Throttle/Pedal Pos Sensor Voltage Correlation DTC.
Mike indicated the TC unit's low setting was throwing the code. He sent a new TC and it worked great OOB.
Same thing this morning car wouldn't start, turned everything off, waited for about 15 seconds, pressed on the start for accessories and reset the controller again. Sucks that it'll take more than 2 weeks for US mail to come in. I don't want to take it out though it's too much fun when it works.
It is fun, but I would take it out for now. As you know, it is headache dealing with it when there is an issue.
What do you mean "reset the controller?" What do you do?
Ahh I hate that we can't copy and paste text on this forum 95% of the time. Grrr.
Anyway trying to start the car the controller's display is black/dead and the car will crank sputter and die. I turn everything off, I wait 15 or so seconds and put on the accessories and the controller lights up I press the controller button and it goes into the mode where you need to set the 800 code and press/hold again until the settings come back. The car starts like normal and I can turn on and off the car for a few hours until the controller seems to go dead again as if there's a battery in there or something that loses power?
Ahh I hate that we can't copy and paste text on this forum 95% of the time. Grrr.
Anyway trying to start the car the controller's display is black/dead and the car will crank sputter and die. I turn everything off, I wait 15 or so seconds and put on the accessories and the controller lights up I press the controller button and it goes into the mode where you need to set the 800 code and press/hold again until the settings come back. The car starts like normal and I can turn on and off the car for a few hours until the controller seems to go dead again as if there's a battery in there or something that loses power?
Are all you connections tight, I have heard of a similar issue and the connections were not tight enough. I know when I connected mine there was a very clear click as they we connected.