Originally Posted by Let It Ride

Hogwash. He may be a engineer. He may have a masters in whatever. He could have 40 different jobs in 40 different dash companies. I don't care how many alternators, starters, seats, water pumps, rugs, batteries gauge clusters etc..he worked on, designed, built, installed, until he SPECIFICALLY worked on and designed the C7 dash I personally don't think he is any more to believe the outcome than Carnac the Magnificent.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

False.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

False.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

Same or similar processes. Glue can fail just as grease can fail, one is an adhesive and the other a lubricant but both are industrial substances.

But specifically, one of my jobs was working on Driver Authorization Systems (which is a fancy way of saying Ignition modules). Those are installed at the dash supplier. I've been at a dash supplier and did a line walk of how a dash is assembled. The one I walked on was a 2009 Dodge Ram, done by Lear, but it's a similar process for all suppliers and cars. A dash is a dash. I've also walked multiple manufacturing lines for both GM and Ford (assembly plants). As well as line walks at many suppliers.

So I'm familiar with the process in which dashes are assembled, stored, transported, and installed into automobiles. I've been around enough components to understand why there are process controls and how environment can effect things you wouldn't think it does. I have seen enough component plants and assembly plants to know that things are mostly common across them.

Which is to say, they all are highly complex processes which have many disturbance factors and that design can't account for all failure modes.

Also as a bit of publicly available information, if you look at recalls on most manufacturers the recall isn't a design issue, its a process issue. Process issues or as we call them sometimes "quality spills" are the number one way a part fails. Design issues are for all components very rigorously tested by DV and PV testing (Design Validation and Process Validation). DV Testing is where you do pure design validation usually on prototype dimensionally correct parts. PV testing is where you verify the manufacturing process, but its still very controlled so really you are only verifying the nominal process.

Over time processes are modified and new controls are put into place as its noticed that there are gaps. This is standard operating procedure for all components in automotive. Design changes are rare and only exist for two reasons, one to address a failure and two to lower cost. Changes cost money, spending money is the enemy. Building cars is a business, the goal is to build the highest quality product that meets design intent for the lowest cost.

Using all this knowledge one can make plenty of inferences about the C7 dash. Especially after seeing the failures here and pictures of torn down dashes on this forum.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

That's a terribly rude and narrow minded thing to say. I may not be the most amenable person, but that's just uncalled for. No appreciation for the expertise anyone has. Would you only take your car to a mechanic who has fixed your specific problem previously? What if its a new problem? Your statements make no logical sense.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

That's a terribly rude and narrow minded thing to say. I may not be the most amenable person, but that's just uncalled for. No appreciation for the expertise anyone has. Would you only take your car to a mechanic who has fixed your specific problem previously? What if its a new problem? Your statements make no logical sense.

Originally Posted by Let It Ride

No it's not because you have zero expertise at the problem at hand. Until you have personally worked on the C7 dash you can't convince me otherwise. Making lateral comparisons on work you have done is not the same in my book sorry.

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Reminds me of negotiating a real estate commission with a DB RE agent. They give you all their bullshit that might qualify them, but cannot address whatever is at hand.

Same bullshit from this guy. Knows nothing.

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

You guys understand your claims are equally baseless as mine per your own criteria. Right?

I had a really long post but you know what, waste of my time. I'm removing it.

I'm just going to ignore the both of you now. Consider that your victory.

Originally Posted by Let It Ride

Hey I got nothing against you and the original question was how many had their dash bubble. Some have and some haven't and there is no ryme or reason when it happens. Maybe if you had ACTUALLY worked with GM on the C7 dash instead of offering your engineering background and the like on SIMILAR scenarios we would feel different. You cannot predict anymore than we can what is going to happen at any time to a C7 dash even with your "vast' engineering background because you were not there at GM for this, were you.

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

He went off the Reservation when he claimed that; "ALL 3LTs have dashboard problems." What a friggin' 🤡.

Originally Posted by Let It Ride

Now he is also a expert on oscillating vibrations on a C7. As a matter of fact he says ALL cars have it in some form. Read this nonsense.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...er-speeds.html

Originally Posted by LT1 Z51

I think this level of bullying on a public forum isn't acceptable, and frankly both of you should be banned for this type of behavior. Total disregard of other peoples opinions, thoughts, experience, inputs, and logical arguments. Like everything else in this thread that's my opinion. We will see if something is done about it here and in other threads where I've witnessed similar behavior. I'm only posting in case some poor soul comes here and sees this. I hope they don't think too poorly of the rest of us.