When is Ranger driving C7?
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Not averaging 11.60 with a stock c-7 maybe at a fast track but at any regular track ! NO!Shezz!
Melting Slicks
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clutch
I'm still on my stock clutch and the stock clutches I say and I change my fluid in it every month, can probably handle 3-5 hard runs on a stock z....
I have had a little bit of slippage since now I'm putting down almost 600 to wheels up high on hard launches will be getting a clutch soon. But it would be awesome if they had made 6 speed auto in the z it would totally be running 10.8s all day consistently...
I have had a little bit of slippage since now I'm putting down almost 600 to wheels up high on hard launches will be getting a clutch soon. But it would be awesome if they had made 6 speed auto in the z it would totally be running 10.8s all day consistently...
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I spent a couple of years under Ranger's tutoring and made all of the track rentals for a couple of years with Ranger as well as a few of the drags that our club put on in the warmer months. Occasionally Jamie Furman would rent one lane and Ranger the other. I never heard Ranger claim to be the best. As a matter of fact he talked more about those that he competed against for best time than himself. And he always referred to his competitors with respect. Ranger pushed for perfection and used all of the technology he could to study this sport. When he took me under his wing he gave me a regiment to follow, including every time I drove somewhere and the transmission fluid was warm, I was to run through an imaginary 1/4 mile, engine off, using the throttle, clutch and gears for 20 repetitions. He did the same his self. As a result, we didn't miss many gears. Our shift times were typically around 0.20 seconds.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
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From: Short Hills, NJ
I spent a couple of years under Ranger's tutoring and made all of the track rentals for a couple of years with Ranger as well as a few of the drags that our club put on in the warmer months. Occasionally Jamie Furman would rent one lane and Ranger the other. I never heard Ranger claim to be the best. As a matter of fact he talked more about those that he competed against for best time than himself. And he always referred to his competitors with respect. Ranger pushed for perfection and used all of the technology he could to study this sport. When he took me under his wing he gave me a regiment to follow, including every time I drove somewhere and the transmission fluid was warm, I was to run through an imaginary 1/4 mile, engine off, using the throttle, clutch and gears for 20 repetitions. He did the same his self. As a result, we didn't miss many gears. Our shift times were typically around 0.20 seconds.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
100% 
I was also fortunate to spend some time talking with Ranger in detail during various track visits over the last 9 years or so, and even though I'm an 'automatic guy' he was still able to offer me some very useful information.
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I spent a couple of years under Ranger's tutoring and made all of the track rentals for a couple of years with Ranger as well as a few of the drags that our club put on in the warmer months. Occasionally Jamie Furman would rent one lane and Ranger the other. I never heard Ranger claim to be the best. As a matter of fact he talked more about those that he competed against for best time than himself. And he always referred to his competitors with respect. Ranger pushed for perfection and used all of the technology he could to study this sport. When he took me under his wing he gave me a regiment to follow, including every time I drove somewhere and the transmission fluid was warm, I was to run through an imaginary 1/4 mile, engine off, using the throttle, clutch and gears for 20 repetitions. He did the same his self. As a result, we didn't miss many gears. Our shift times were typically around 0.20 seconds.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Smithfield VA
I will take that bet if you are talking stock.
I know Ranger personally and this is nothing against his driving ability. The torque management on the M7 seems really hamper the launch. I don't think he's(or anyone) going to be able to make up for that.
I know Ranger personally and this is nothing against his driving ability. The torque management on the M7 seems really hamper the launch. I don't think he's(or anyone) going to be able to make up for that.
Melting Slicks
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If driven
If driven right and riding the clutch perfect out the hole without slippage the 7 speed will do damage... I remember on my Z when I was stock I would run better than the Audi r8 for 2 passes after hard slippage then the car would be inconsistent after that till hour cool down. I say if the clutch is better than the c6s he should easily get 5 good runs out of a Manuel 7 speed. I would say 11.4 11.2 with the perfect launch 1.7 60ft...
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If driven right and riding the clutch perfect out the hole without slippage the 7 speed will do damage... I remember on my Z when I was stock I would run better than the Audi r8 for 2 passes after hard slippage then the car would be inconsistent after that till hour cool down. I say if the clutch is better than the c6s he should easily get 5 good runs out of a Manuel 7 speed. I would say 11.4 11.2 with the perfect launch 1.7 60ft...
Burning Brakes
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From: N.E. Phila. PA
Ok.... my only stipulation would be "seat time". Even Ranger
has stated that everyone needs several runs, in order
to start reaching a "new" car's potential. (By "several", I'd mean,
more than whan Snorman did.)
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From: Short Hills, NJ
And yes, it CAN be done by a manual in the right hands (and feet
) with the right air/track prep. The likes of you Kyle, Ranger, Jamie Furman, Robz, Bruce-Fartpipe, Dr. Ron, Gary H. are all capable of making it happen. But they'd have to have a bunch of passes and cool down periods with the car at a typical November to March, Atco, Cecil, MIR or Capital track visit to make it happen.Ideally, a perfectly launched/perfectly shifted manual should be over a full tenth and 1.5mph faster than a similarly optioned/similar weight (driver weight/fuel load etc.) automatic but it takes EVERYTHING coming together just right. But we don't live in a perfect world of course so the automatics do tend shine a little brighter on average.
In my opinion, we will see a pure bone stock Corvette C7 (be it an automatic or manual) touch the 11.3s at over 122mph
and that will be even more mindbogglingly impressive if/when it does. I'm already overjoyed knowing that they're capable of 11.4s at over 120!
Melting Slicks
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It is much more intrusive, i made about 40 passes today, trying all kinds of launchs. Its very hard to drive around it. You really cant, you just try to keep it minimal. In my ZR1 i can slip the clutch and get around it pretty good. I want to take a shot at a Z51 car with npp, but my car has neither.
He didnt mention anything about the torque management system. But then again even my z06 the torque management is tuned out.. Hopefully Ill get to take one to track soon... it took me 10 passes to get mine down to launching at good rpms..
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Yes, I'd just read Kyle's thread as well, before posting what I just did above I hadn't realized that he already had a manual C7 and fully tested it.
Hmm, maybe it's actually not capable of a quicker 1/4 mile pass than an automatic in stock trim.
Which is good for me because I'm an 'automatic guy' anyway, that's what my C7 is going to be regardless if I ultimately get one.
Hmm, maybe it's actually not capable of a quicker 1/4 mile pass than an automatic in stock trim.
Which is good for me because I'm an 'automatic guy' anyway, that's what my C7 is going to be regardless if I ultimately get one.
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Regardless of trans, it's pretty incredible how quickly the C7 has come out of the chute in a number of configurations. The future looks pretty good and Chevy hasn't even revealed PHASEII.
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I spent a couple of years under Ranger's tutoring and made all of the track rentals for a couple of years with Ranger as well as a few of the drags that our club put on in the warmer months. Occasionally Jamie Furman would rent one lane and Ranger the other. I never heard Ranger claim to be the best. As a matter of fact he talked more about those that he competed against for best time than himself. And he always referred to his competitors with respect. Ranger pushed for perfection and used all of the technology he could to study this sport. When he took me under his wing he gave me a regiment to follow, including every time I drove somewhere and the transmission fluid was warm, I was to run through an imaginary 1/4 mile, engine off, using the throttle, clutch and gears for 20 repetitions. He did the same his self. As a result, we didn't miss many gears. Our shift times were typically around 0.20 seconds.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
But this is not the reason that I decided to post here. The greatest thing about Ranger was how much he helped everybody around him. I would be surprised if many of the best out there now are not using something that they learned from Ranger. I remember being at the track with him with his run group coming up and he was helping someone fix a clutch problem or tutoring them on shift points. I don't think you will find many people out there that have helped as many people as Ranger has. He is a truly great human being and I am honored to have been his good friend for a few years. I haven't heard from Ranger for a couple of years and am very concerned for his well being. He is someone that I will never forget and feel that I am a better person for having been his friend.
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I met Ranger once myself, no Corvette talk because I was not really interested because I had not owned my "first" Corvette (2010) at the time. However he strikes me as someone who had a little thicker skin then portrayed here. If he wants to go to the track I'm sure he would. I just hope he is still around & enjoying life.
PS: You know when you get to old/ill to cut the "mustard" you can still pass on knowledge & wisdom.
PS: You know when you get to old/ill to cut the "mustard"
you can still pass on knowledge & wisdom.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; Nov 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM.