When is Ranger driving C7?
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It is just not ET, it is trap speed too. Ranger was regularlly 2-3mph faster than me when guest driving my car same day. This was due to his shifting speed and percison. Not saying other guys can't do it as I know there are.
But from what I have been seeing from the A6 C7s, I think Ranger would be hard pressed to beat Snorman's times driving a M7 car.
But from what I have been seeing from the A6 C7s, I think Ranger would be hard pressed to beat Snorman's times driving a M7 car.
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Re-read my post, I said I was NOT taking anything away from his driving skill, I've seen him drive. If you think he is the only person who has "got the number" you are very mistaken, maybe some people could care less about "claiming" the number, some people have more important things to do in their lives.
Your next post actually explains the very reason for the original question. Many want to see him apply his methods to the new car. That's it. Call me a fan boy if you want but I am genuinely curious.
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It's not the speed of his shifting at all, to sum it up he really made it a full time job, from computer logging 100's of runs, to temps, track prep etc.., he basically was doing , to his credit, was replicating launch control, in today's cars it is all done for you, so there wouldn't be much of a gap in today's cars, even in perfect conditions with him behind the wheel.
Who knows, GM probably took note and hired him to help with the number side of it.
Who knows, GM probably took note and hired him to help with the number side of it.
Also you can replace Ranger with Kyle Lemish, Jamie Furman, or many other of the quick shifting guys on this forum.
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It is just not ET, it is trap speed too. Ranger was regularlly 2-3mph faster than me when guest driving my car same day. This was due to his shifting speed and percison. Not saying other guys can't do it as I know there are.
But from what I have been seeing from the A6 C7s, I think Ranger would be hard pressed to beat Snorman's times driving a M7 car.
But from what I have been seeing from the A6 C7s, I think Ranger would be hard pressed to beat Snorman's times driving a M7 car.
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This fellow named "Bob Anderson" & Ranger know one another. Years ago when they were both a lot younger and both owned the 405 HP Stock Z06 and most good drivers were putting down 12.20's at the time Ranger was running 11.80's. Well Bob & Ranger faced off two or three times at a Corvette track rental and according to Bob Anderson he smoked Ranger every time in the 1/4 mile that day making most of the ET in the 60 ft. Maybe someone here was at that track rental and remembers that day. 
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; Nov 13, 2013 at 01:07 AM.
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This fellow named "Bob Anderson" & Ranger know one another. Years ago when they were both a lot younger and both owned the 405 HP Stock Z06 and most good drivers were putting down 12.20's at the time Ranger was running 11.80's. Well Bob & Ranger faced off two or three times at a Corvette track rental and according to Bob Anderson he smoked Ranger every time in the 1/4 mile that day making most of the ET in the 60 ft. Maybe someone here was at that track rental and remembers that day. The guy is notorious for running great times in some stock Corvettes... forgive those of us who are curious to see what he could do with a C7. I would love to see Evan Smith or Furman (There was a another guy...Moser?) give it a go as well, doesn't mean they are going to set a new record but they have a better chance than someone like me does.
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Lol...you really don't know what you are writing about. The fact is you'll never see Ranger on the track when the DA is going to be +...he does his racing in the early spring or late fall and at the best tracks in the northeast...typically Atco or MIR. And he most certainly pays attention to what the weather conditions will be like for those days he can get to a given rental.
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Lol...you really don't know what you are writing about. The fact is you'll never see Ranger on the track when the DA is going to be +...he does his racing in the early spring or late fall and at the best tracks in the northeast...typically Atco or MIR. And he most certainly pays attention to what the weather conditions will be like for those days he can get to a given rental.
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There is a little (knowledge) to getting out of the hole which I have never seen mention on here. Bob A. who had been rowing a stick all his life was running 12.20's like the rest of the respectable Z06 405 HP stock drivers at the time until he and I had a little conversation, I used to bracket race with a stick all the time, thats all I did, so after a few suggestions from me Bob went from 12.20's to an 11.80 on his very next pass. It was a week or two later that Bob and Ranger had the shoot out at a rental. Maybe Ranger will see this post and chime in.
As for me just look in the C6 "Grand Sport" stock & bolt-on 1/4 mile section. I think you will notice where I get a lot of my ET from; both records are on OEM stock tires.
PS: If you "checked" the GS 1/4 mile records you know that I'm (260 lb. fat man) running an A6 and not a stick; so if you compare my A6 (no shifting required) time to the next best Grand Sport A6's time it makes the difference stand out even more.
As for me just look in the C6 "Grand Sport" stock & bolt-on 1/4 mile section. I think you will notice where I get a lot of my ET from; both records are on OEM stock tires.
PS: If you "checked" the GS 1/4 mile records you know that I'm (260 lb. fat man) running an A6 and not a stick; so if you compare my A6 (no shifting required) time to the next best Grand Sport A6's time it makes the difference stand out even more.
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This fellow named "Bob Anderson" & Ranger know one another. Years ago when they were both a lot younger and both owned the 405 HP Stock Z06 and most good drivers were putting down 12.20's at the time Ranger was running 11.80's. Well Bob & Ranger faced off two or three times at a Corvette track rental and according to Bob Anderson he smoked Ranger every time in the 1/4 mile that day making most of the ET in the 60 ft. Maybe someone here was at that track rental and remembers that day. I was going to mention Bruce as I believe his 60' was better in the ZR1 as well, not sure it was the same day/rental though...someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Regardless of how good a driver is, anyone who believes they're going to duplicate the results anywhere else other than those two tracks in perfect conditions is a fool.
I ultimately feel the torque management will limit the M7 from matching the 60' of the A6 C7 as I don't think it can be "driven around" the same as the C6. The overall first gearing is better in a Z51 A6 vs Z51 M7 and the torque multiplication with the converter on top of that is hard to beat, especially if you can't launch it hard and it makes so much low end torque...just my 2 cents
Melting Slicks
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Not taking anything from Ranger, but I believe Dr. Ron cut a better 60' than him on the same day in his C6Z...though I'm pretty sure he had different tires.
I was going to mention Bruce as I believe his 60' was better in the ZR1 as well, not sure it was the same day/rental though...someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
I was going to mention Bruce as I believe his 60' was better in the ZR1 as well, not sure it was the same day/rental though...someone can correct me if I'm wrong.