Engine Dyno Testing Major Headers Very Soon!!! :)
Former Vendor
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From: Salt Lake City Utah
St. Jude Donor '12
Guys I just wanted to let you all know our goal is to dyno every product we add to our site. As a result I will be engine dyno testing every major brand of headers on the the engine dyno test LT1.
I'm waiting for all the top brands to arrive & they will all be available through our site!
I'm waiting for all the top brands to arrive & they will all be available through our site!
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
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I think this is a great idea but considering you guys manufacture headers I'd be a little skeptical about the results. I'd suggest someone who isn't a header manufacture do the "independent" testing but that is just my opinion. We offer all of those brands as well aside from your headers; we don't have a horse in the race so to speak. I think a test by someone like ECS, FSP, Redline, LMR or us for that matter would be more viable.
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
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Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Wylie SC
I think this is a great idea but considering you guys manufacture headers I'd be a little skeptical about the results. I'd suggest someone who isn't a header manufacture do the "independent" testing but that is just my opinion. We offer all of those brands as well aside from your headers; we don't have a horse in the race so to speak. I think a test by someone like ECS, FSP, Redline, LMR or us for that matter would be more viable.
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix, AZ USA
I think this is a great idea but considering you guys manufacture headers I'd be a little skeptical about the results.
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We know you're swapping around headers, but can you describe the intake and [the rest of] the exhaust system you're using on the engine dyno? How do they compare to systems used on the vehicle in terms of pipe lengths, restriction, etc?
And are these steady state-tests, where you go point-by-point, or full throttle transients? Will you be sweeping the cam phaser at each rpm point? Changing the header design is going to affect the exhaust tuning and the optimum cam retard settings.
And are these steady state-tests, where you go point-by-point, or full throttle transients? Will you be sweeping the cam phaser at each rpm point? Changing the header design is going to affect the exhaust tuning and the optimum cam retard settings.
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From: Rio Rancho NM
Why not especially if one of the mottos is the most powerful headers in the world. I would get them out there. Remember it's not just peak ho people are looking for. Some may have better mid range then the others or low end vs someone that makes more peak etc etc
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St. Jude Donor '12
I'm not saying anything about their character or ethics but it isn't an "Independent test", period.
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
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Exactly my point. LG, Kooks,Phadt,and ARH have great reputations with just about everyone here, and if they were the ones publishing the "independent" results, it just wouldn't be fair and couldn't be trusted. Why should TSP be treated any different? I appreciate their effort, but definitely question their ability to be unbiased
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The fact that they don't have a C7 header yet, makes this whole thing even crazier. All that means is they can reap the benefits of all the R&D performed by Kooks, ARH, Phadt and LG in a single weekend. If they don't have one yet...I can guarantee they will have one a lot faster after this test
Pro
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From: NY
I just hope this thread doesn't get locked and we'll actually get some comparison results.
It's nothing short of amazing how threads tend to spiral out of control on here all the time.
It's like there is no moderation what so ever...
/rant
It's nothing short of amazing how threads tend to spiral out of control on here all the time.
It's like there is no moderation what so ever...
/rant
Thread Starter
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From: Texas Speed TX
I don't have a c7 header guys and won't for a good while.
I'll tell you why I can test these things. I'm one of about 2 or 3 shops that even have a engine dyno.
I don't have to post the results, I just thought you guys might like to know.
I'll tell you why I can test these things. I'm one of about 2 or 3 shops that even have a engine dyno.
I don't have to post the results, I just thought you guys might like to know.
Thread Starter
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From: Texas Speed TX
I will not be posting the results guys. I just try to test parts we sell for our customers, and people want to imply I'm a crook.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
Former Vendor
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From: Salt Lake City Utah
St. Jude Donor '12
I will not be posting the results guys. I just try to test parts we sell for our customers, and people want to imply I'm a crook.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
We test parts on cars and in real world conditions everyday; the only difference is we don't manufacture competing products. I wasn't trying to come off implying anything negative against you or your products. I have respect for you and your company.
Kind regards,
Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007
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Its a sad day when you try to offer up comparison results for everyone and get completely shot down by people who are clearly unfamiliar with how Texas Speed operates. We have been nothing but an honest and forthcoming shop when it comes to these kinds of results. It does us no good to lie about a competitors product, that only makes us look worse. At the end of the day, we obviously won't be the only people posting dyno results of headers on these cars.
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I will not be posting the results guys. I just try to test parts we sell for our customers, and people want to imply I'm a crook.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
Of course I will test every header either way. Of course I'll make a header eventually, and of course I'll make it the best I absolutely can.
To imply other companies did extensive testing on their designs and somehow I just want to copy it is ridiculous. First off none of the header mfgs even have a engine dyno or lt1 test engine to do it.
Ill continue to test & test as always.
There will always be "these guys"