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Lets just all get along because all in all all these kits are awesome!
Choices for us in GREAT!
The C7 will pull a lot of cars including the z06 with these kits and be an amazing machines!
There are a few variables in that question, that make it difficult to answer correctly. Plus given this forums rather harsh judgments on ANY data, it seems that almost any answer I give, will quickly turn into "so-and-so's is better", with out data to back it up.
Some of the variables to consider with that question:
What Boost Level?
Is this just for a Dyno Pull?
What gear dyno'ed in?
Is it a Load Pull?
Or fixed boost level / RPM?
How long was it held at that level?
Whats the wind speed across the core?
Back to back to back runs?
Whats cool down time?
Is this a highway 4th gear pull?
Not trying to avoid the question, but just showing that its a very loaded question.
I can say under the same exact testing conditions this C7 intercooler is more effective then our C5/C6 intercooler. (which people have made darn good power with) As it should, since it is much larger in core size.
Hope that helps at least a little,
ATI ProCharger
Sorry wasn't trying to load a question, I am curious how they would do on a race track and how quickly would you heat soak a motor. I run a Centri SC on my M3 for the track and it is an air to water set up, even with this my IAT's are still 40 plus ambient pretty regularly with W/A injection. I am interested if these Centri's can withstand the rigors of a road course and stay cool or if they are going to do two laps and start pulling timing. I would imagine you could also install W/A injection.
Sorry wasn't trying to load a question, I am curious how they would do on a race track and how quickly would you heat soak a motor. I run a Centri SC on my M3 for the track and it is an air to water set up, even with this my IAT's are still 40 plus ambient pretty regularly with W/A injection. I am interested if these Centri's can withstand the rigors of a road course and stay cool or if they are going to do two laps and start pulling timing. I would imagine you could also install W/A injection.
I cannot speak for prochargers setup, especially in the C7 but I can speak for the ECS and A&A setups for the C5/C6's. We have been running a car north of 1000hp at road america for the past 3 years with zero problems. Heat soak is not a issue at all. We run it on 93/Meth and have had ZERO issues to date with heat soak or engine temps while taking the proper precautions such as a good radiator and a sufficient oil cooler. Because of the meth IAT's actually stay sub ambient. We will be be running it again hard this year as well as in the Optima ultimate street car series. No problems to date related to IAT or engine temps.
Unfortunatly I cannot speak to how it will run without the use of methanol but I would assume it would be perfectly fine. Meth injection is a great safety with a centri powered car. The cooling factor you get on the intake temps alone makes it worth while even if you have no need for the octane increase.
That being said, I would not worry to much about Heat soak with prochargers setup. Although not comparing apples to apples, its the same concept and a similiar setup. Just make sure the car has a sufficient cooling system (radiator and oil cooler), those will be your primary concerns. In a road course enviornment I would not count on the factory cooling system to do its job, especially with a blower on it. If you are really driving the car, its gonna get hot!
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I cannot speak for prochargers setup, especially in the C7 but I can speak for the ECS and A&A setups for the C5/C6's. We have been running a car north of 1000hp at road america for the past 3 years with zero problems. Heat soak is not a issue at all. We run it on 93/Meth and have had ZERO issues to date with heat soak or engine temps while taking the proper precautions such as a good radiator and a sufficient oil cooler. Because of the meth IAT's actually stay sub ambient. We will be be running it again hard this year as well as in the Optima ultimate street car series. No problems to date related to IAT or engine temps.
Unfortunatly I cannot speak to how it will run without the use of methanol but I would assume it would be perfectly fine. Meth injection is a great safety with a centri powered car, you should look into it. The cooling factor you get on the intake temps alone makes it worth while even if you have no need for the octane increase.
That being said, I would not worry to much about Heat soak with prochargers setup. Although not comparing apples to apples, its the same concept and a similiar setup. Just make sure the car has a sufficient cooling system (radiator and oil cooler), those will be your primary concerns. In a road course enviornment I would not count on the factory cooling system to do its job, especially with a blower on it. If you are really driving the car, its gonna get hot!
I am a Road America guy as well, this is good information to know. I do run water/meth right now with a larger radiator on my M3. So it makes sense the Corvette would do as well. I haven't seen what the stock oil cooler or radiator is like on this car but I would assume with road racing a larger radiator is going to be a plus.
I am a Road America guy as well, this is good information to know. I do run water/meth right now with a larger radiator on my M3. So it makes sense the Corvette would do as well. I haven't seen what the stock oil cooler or radiator is like on this car but I would assume with road racing a larger radiator is going to be a plus.
Yeah, I would not trust the stock raditor or oil cooler for that track. As you know you can reach VERY high speeds on this track. I would look into aftermarket radiator offerings and and a setrab oil cooler. If your local I would be more than happy to give you a hand making sure its set up properly. We need more supercharged/Turbo high horsepower vettes running out there!
I think my bracket is the prettiest. It's extremely stout. Rather than using standard round standoffs, I opted to use solid billet pieces on both sides.
The lines you see are a reflection of the radiator fins, not machining marks, by the way.
I know someone mentioned we were pushing the blower further away from the engine than one of the other kits. They are all going to be in the same place (very close at least) because there is no other place to put it in order to line up with the lower pulley. No matter how you decide to do the lower pulley, the actual grooves can't really be any further back than anyone else's version. If you look at the balancer picture I posted earlier you can see that going back any further will have the blower belt interfering with the accessory belt. It just can't be done.
I think my bracket is the prettiest. It's extremely stout. Rather than using standard round standoffs, I opted to use solid billet pieces on both sides.
The lines you see are a reflection of the radiator fins, not machining marks, by the way.
I know someone mentioned we were pushing the blower further away from the engine than one of the other kits. They are all going to be in the same place (very close at least) because there is no other place to put it in order to line up with the lower pulley. No matter how you decide to do the lower pulley, the actual grooves can't really be any further back than anyone else's version. If you look at the balancer picture I posted earlier you can see that going back any further will have the blower belt interfering with the accessory belt. It just can't be done.
Did not realize my original post would produce such a lively conversation, but I do appreciate everyone's input as it is very much appreciated. Bottom line is, it appears that we have 3, possibly 4 very good choices and I believe I have decided on which way I am headed, and that will be with the A&A Supercharger. The other choices are also very good, but I have to make a decision, and this is the way I am headed. I hope to have it installed within the next 30 days, once the kit has been finalized.
Best of luck to everyone!!!! Now I am off to Vegas to go watch my son play a little baseball, GO UNLV.
I think my bracket is the prettiest. It's extremely stout. Rather than using standard round standoffs, I opted to use solid billet pieces on both sides.
The lines you see are a reflection of the radiator fins, not machining marks, by the way.
I know someone mentioned we were pushing the blower further away from the engine than one of the other kits. They are all going to be in the same place (very close at least) because there is no other place to put it in order to line up with the lower pulley. No matter how you decide to do the lower pulley, the actual grooves can't really be any further back than anyone else's version. If you look at the balancer picture I posted earlier you can see that going back any further will have the blower belt interfering with the accessory belt. It just can't be done.
Now that I have a better look! WOW! that bracket is stout to say the least!
I think you have the stout bracket title! hands down! That is NHRA stuff! there!
See what your saying on location! Sweet!
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