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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by brettmess24
I unbolted my cats from the manifolds. Only way to get the manifolds out.

Make sure you bolt your longtubes on with o2 sensors in place.


yes, i understand that, but trying to disconnect the wires for the O2 s is near impossible, unless one drops the cats first, then maybe get to the connectors.
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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chazzmania
It is tight there if you can get your hands up by the O2s. They are attached to a plastic clip. If you can get that clip off that will drop the wires some. Then push up on the grey plastic clip, then disconnect the wires. Once they are disconnected you can drop the headers. Just be patient and not rush it so you don’t damage the wires.
i may be able to get a long screw driver in there to pry them off the mounting bracket, have to see, or unbolt the cats and drop them a bit. frustrating to say the least, now i know why they say 2 guy 10-12 hrs lol
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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
yes, i understand that, but trying to disconnect the wires for the O2 s is near impossible, unless one drops the cats first, then maybe get to the connectors.
Yes, that is exactly what I did. Then you will be able to disconnect all four and drop the manifolds out. Major PIA!
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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 10:40 PM
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To add insult to injury, my damn passenger side pre-cat O2 sensor's threads stripped off when breaking it loose from the stock exhaust. I had to order a new sensor, because absolutely no local parts stores or dealerships had any in stock. What's odd is that I had the exact same issue with my old '09 Pontiac G8 GT when I installed its headers.

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Yes, that is exactly what I did. Then you will be able to disconnect all four and drop the manifolds out. Major PIA!
Thanks, what i was thinking. Is there a trick to get to the last nut above the suspension. Pafdt inst say drop the suspension and unbolt motor moumts. I think that is a little extreme. I fimd no real.good inst anuwhere. Even tho some say watch the diy video on youtube, but is not very instructive.
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If I remember correctly, I had to use a wrench on the nut and had to tap on the wrench with something to break it loose. That one is a pain in the *** for sure.

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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lakemg
If I remember correctly, I had to use a wrench on the nut and had to tap on the wrench with something to break it loose. That one is a pain in the *** for sure.
yes for sure.. may have to use a stubby wrench on it, hard to even get a wrench on it maybe, not sure never tried that yet. good job i don t have a set of torches. hehe
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
Thanks, what i was thinking. Is there a trick to get to the last nut above the suspension. Pafdt inst say drop the suspension and unbolt motor moumts. I think that is a little extreme. I fimd no real.good inst anuwhere. Even tho some say watch the diy video on youtube, but is not very instructive.
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If I remember correctly, I had to use a wrench on the nut and had to tap on the wrench with something to break it loose. That one is a pain in the *** for sure.
yep open end ratcheting wrenches a pipe to go over the handle and a rubber mallet. The four on the drivers side were easy to get off but the last one on the passenger side I couldn't get to break loose so I broke out the sawzall and cut just above the cat to get that one out. I was pissed at the time and said F it I'll get that bitch out

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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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I dropped the X, and then worked on the cat pipes, and then once off they wont come out untill you take off the manifolds.... but it did allow me to get the 02s disconnected. they are a hell of a clip for sure.
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one last queary, did most everyone have to jack the engine up ? Kooks inst. that i got today, which are not very detailed at all, state, jack it up about 3/4 ", to get manifolds out, if i do that, it may also give me more clearance to get at the 2 nuts about the control arms.
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Old Nov 21, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
one last queary, did most everyone have to jack the engine up ? Kooks inst. that i got today, which are not very detailed at all, state, jack it up about 3/4 ", to get manifolds out, if i do that, it may also give me more clearance to get at the 2 nuts about the control arms.
I did mine on a lift, but I didn't need to jack up the engine. It's tight, but doable.



Originally Posted by walleyejack
Thanks, what i was thinking. Is there a trick to get to the last nut above the suspension. Pafdt inst say drop the suspension and unbolt motor moumts. I think that is a little extreme. I fimd no real.good inst anuwhere. Even tho some say watch the diy video on youtube, but is not very instructive.
I used a long open-end wrench and a rubber mallet. I did not drop any suspension components or unbolt motor mounts.


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To add insult to injury, my damn passenger side pre-cat O2 sensor's threads stripped off when breaking it loose from the stock exhaust. I had to order a new sensor, because absolutely no local parts stores or dealerships had any in stock. What's odd is that I had the exact same issue with my old '09 Pontiac G8 GT when I installed its headers.
Did you use the special o2 sensor socket? I used that and some PB blaster and had no issues.
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
one last queary, did most everyone have to jack the engine up ? Kooks inst. that i got today, which are not very detailed at all, state, jack it up about 3/4 ", to get manifolds out, if i do that, it may also give me more clearance to get at the 2 nuts about the control arms.
Did not raise my engine either although it probably would make it easier to remove the manifolds. Mine had to be carefully manipulated out of the engine bay from the bottom.
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Originally Posted by vtmike24
Did you use the special o2 sensor socket? I used that and some PB blaster and had no issues.
I soaked them in a penetrating oil similar to PB for a few hours and also used the O2 sensor socket on them. All came loose without issue except the passenger side front sensor.
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I did not touch the engine.

I removed the starter, for installing the headers....left the Z51 oil lines on as well.

other wise has cats unbolted from manifolds and then undid manifols, and then took them out in 2 parts. then installed header.
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Old Nov 21, 2017 | 02:46 PM
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Did you use the special o2 sensor socket? I used that and some PB blaster and had no issues.[/QUOTE]


you think they will be seized in the cat ??
soak with penetrating oil for a few days and wrench it ??
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
Did you use the special o2 sensor socket? I used that and some PB blaster and had no issues.

you think they will be seized in the cat ??
soak with penetrating oil for a few days and wrench it ??[/QUOTE]


They are typically hard to get out. The longer, the better. I let mine sit overnight.
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all these are newer cars shoul dnot be a problem mine has 41k on it and came out normal
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Old Nov 24, 2017 | 11:45 PM
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well, got the cat off driver side, pass side is a biatch, took manifolds off to get a little more clearance for them, think i need another set of hands, one to manouver the manifold and one to mess with the cat. tried getting the driver side man out. to no avail, i thought i would leave it and try again the next day, man everything is tight in there, not like a C6 or C5.
thanks for all the tips.
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So I've watched videos and looked at how to guides but don't want to break something. Removed the three screws but the junction block bracket is still held down by the 5 wires connected to the fuse box(es). How do those come off so the entire bracket can be removed?
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 04:03 PM
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I did not remove my electrical box...

I removed the valve cover instead, ALOT easier, and less worry about electrical stuff.
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