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Having come from a modified C6 Z06 and a DD CTS-V and reading all this baloney as to how much faster these two vehicles are when compared to my new C7Z06 can only be explained by people who don't know any better or want to rain on someone else's parade.





Having come from a modified C6 Z06 and a DD CTS-V and reading all this baloney as to how much faster these two vehicles are when compared to my new C7Z06 can only be explained by people who don't know any better or want to rain on someone else's parade.
Forums always seem to bring out the worse in people. I say that because I haven't yet met real life individuals as ignorant or stupid as some of the regulars here, so I have to assume they are playing it up to troll others into responding. That's why I don't post much any more. But every once in a while there's a good thread; you just have to learn to ignore the people who don't matter and benefit from the good information when that shows up.
Merry Christmas.
I AGREE 1000000000%
Merry Christmas to you Sam and all your family!





Like everyone else I waited with great anticipation and expectation over the past year for the roll out of this car. I day dreamed about the styling and performance that this car would bring to the table and I can say that my expectations have been met or exceeded.
The car is visually stunning. Everywhere I go people want to talk about it, take pictures ect. This never happened anywhere close to this level with any other Vette that I have owned (and I owned C5's &C6 Z06's early in their respective runs) I did not buy the car for this reason, but it is a nice perk to be a rock star while driving it.
The interior, features and amenities of this car make previous generations seem only a notch higher than a truck interior from the 80's. I sat in a C6 after the purchase of my car and wow, only then will you get the full perspective concerning the improvements made in the C7 platform
The naysayers concerning the performance are either trolls who will never own one or folks who are completely unrealistic as to what the limits are of a RWD car in this price point. I have not been able to do any hard pulls yet due to lousy weather, but I can tell that the car is literally glued to the road, the braking power is incredible and the feedback from the chassis through the corners is fantastic. As far as the straight line performance is concerned I am coming out of a 515 WHP C6Z which if you do the math has the same power/weight ratio as the C7Z in stock form. To me, with the limited seat time and weather restrictions I've dealt with the new Z seems to pull harder. The only disappointment that I have through all of this bashing (if it is even true) is the loss of power after repeated pulls/multiple laps. I am definitely looking forward to more data concerning that.
The way I see it we have just about hit the wall of what a RWD all purpose car can do concerning straight line performance. The improvements going forward will be chassis development, handling, and braking. The C7Z is well on its way down that path
For me and what I will ask this car to do for me 99% of the time it is a home run. I can take trips in it, load up the golf clubs, take the wife out to dinner all while knowing that I'm driving absolute monster. If I loose by a car length to a Viper so be it.... 30 grand will buy a lot of beer for me to drown my sorrows in... On a track I'm guessing the Viper owner will be buying the drinks.
Merry Christmas everyone
Mike
On top of that, there is no widespread indication that it will live up to the GM billing that is was the "be all, end all race car".
If they hadn't made those two crucial errors, there wouldn't have been nearly this much clamor.
However, if street use is a major component of your decision, the advancements of the C7 over the C6 is also an important consideration. You may have to accept some degradation of the performance comparison of the two, however the other factors of its advanced technology maybe sufficient to satisfy you. This can only be your decision.
However, others who can neither afford the C7Z06 or ever intend to purchase one, do no service by falsely criticizing it based neither the facts or personal knowledge of driving the vehicle.
I presently own a C6Z06, CTS-V and a new C7Z06. When I read the garbage these trolls dish out telling me the C7Z06 is no quicker than the other cars in my stable, it can only be explained by their lack of knowledge and in some cases maturity. To my "troll" list they go...
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Trolls and fanboys (both are equally bad) use subjective criteria, and mostly opinions, to back their case. You will never educate or correct these guys, their minds are made up. They will take comments out of context, in order to manipulate the meaning to support their case. They will claim you are jealous, or can't afford something. They will simply resort to personal attacks, threaten you with violent acts, and generally act like teenagers. When they start doing this, they have lost their case. Everyone can see it.
Car enthusiasts use available data, tests, lap times, timeslips, actual driving experience, videos, basically whatever they can learn from - to make points to back their case. Sometimes this data is in favor of their case, sometimes it hurts their case. But, they present and discuss it. The car enthusiasts share their knowledge, whether it be limited or professional level. They do not need personal attacks, or threats to make their point. When corrected, they apologize and move on.
To those reading, which group do you fit in?
Merry Christmas.
Tony

I think the waxers are making troll references about the racers. That's my story and I'm sticking t it.
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Well, it's not like you're walking. You have what appears to be a nice C6 Grandsport to enjoy. I certainly enjoyed my C6 GS while I had it. It's not a C7Z, but a fun car in its own right.

Or perhaps they are just upset that the car that was supposed to make theirs "obsolete" ended up being an epic failure and now they are better off keeping their C6. There are many, many legitimate criticisms of the C7 Z06 but when anyone tries to objectively discuss them the trolls and fanboys take to personal attacks instead of discussing the true merits (or lack thereof) of the new Z06

I have a 2008 Z06 also a couple of small chips otherwise pretty mint.
I just sold a Supercharged C7. Had 4 other Corvette's I'd say I'm a Corvette faithful. The guy getting his first Corvette even if is a new Z06
is new to the game. But calls troll and names when his car gets criticized or questioned
for not being the car GM said it would be.


Or perhaps they are just upset that the car that was supposed to make theirs "obsolete" ended up being an epic failure and now they are better off keeping their C6. There are many, many legitimate criticisms of the C7 Z06 but when anyone tries to objectively discuss them the trolls and fanboys take to personal attacks instead of discussing the true merits (or lack thereof) of the new Z06

I just ignore all the BS and the Keyboard commandos ( who most don't even have a corvette) lol.
I have 2 corvettes now a 61 and a lingenfelter c6 with 600 HP and am ordering a Z06. Im going saturday to look at 2 of them at a local dealer before i place my order with Rick Conti

F all the negativity and the haters.
Also my buddy actually drove one last week in NH and said the thing is a rocket ship and 3rd gear just pulled and pulled.
The funny part to me is is PROB 70% here doing the bitching would never afford to own one and if they got it it would stay in there garage and get 45 coats of Wax..

Buy - Drive it like you stole it . Enjoy it and dont save for the next guy the reality is dropping a 100 K on one and in 6 moths it will be worth 80 so who cares.
It is a rocket ship and a huge bargan / value for the $$ and the time money and Engineering GM put into it is insane. I doubt 99 % of us who buy it will be hot lapping Lime rock every day with it

And the other thing no one talks about and ***** all over is a few people that have dragged them so far.
You can have $$$
You can have *****.
But you cant buy skill of driving and common sense / brains.
Sadly you will see many get killed or in accidents ( just like any other high hp car)
Trying to show off or not use common sense.
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Really it's about time someone called you out BOOBSZ06.
You have to be about the biggest C7 toolboi/fanboi on this sub-forum. You have even less to contribute than the bimmer dude that's been interjecting his nonsense. (Sometimes "he" actually makes sense)
I guess the facts about the C7Z lie somewhere in between both of you, but you're certainly at least as irritating, or even more so than the bimmer boi...
Anyway, that's about all I've got right now, carry on.
On top of that, there is no widespread indication that it will live up to the GM billing that is was the "be all, end all race car".
If they hadn't made those two crucial errors, there wouldn't have been nearly this much clamor.
Having driven a gorgeous Z07 LT3 example that will be extensively road course tracked back to back with my built C6Z, have some impressions.
No one has extensively tracked a C7Z during hot weather on a road course. From what I have seen HPDE amateurs like myself are harder on brakes and cooling than pros, much less writers!
The interior is very nice by Corvette standards. Love the smaller steering wheel, overall nice cabin feel and finish improvement over the C6. Does seem like the target buyer is a "larger" American male vs the Euro or Asian anatomy.
The engine power is smooth & strong with a great sound. Using my uncalibrated butt, it is just as fast as my head-cam-header C6Z w Katech aero that pulls stock ZR1's on the top end.
7 speed is nice, but is the extra shifting needed? Love the rev match. When will Chevy engineer or buy a nice dual clutch and enter the modern sports car world?
My prediction is the A8 is going to be a drag racing and roll racing monster, but fry fluid on a warm roadcourse just like the C4, C5 and C6.
Not sure if the torque vectoring rear is going to hold up on the drag strip with a manual, and heat may be even more an issue?
Chuck Cow is going to make a fortune on Cow Boosters as the throttle peddle is calibrated for waxers or wives just like the C6.
Track package aero is nice without being overdone, do wish it had provision for a splitter with removable extended under-tray and an actual wing. Ignore all the guys spouting downforce figures, as I am betting its about the same as a Katech C6 package. Spoilers do just that, they spoil lift but do not provide that much down force till you get much larger than the track package which is about the same size as a C6 Katech rear spoiler.
Radiator: LG and DeWitt's are going to make a bunch for track guys, along with WC hoods. The stock street production radiator is just not big enough for the track and the ducting is minimal.
All the whining would go away if Chevy made a true World Challenge GT3 class track package that was actually amateur enthusiast driver road course ready. Huge cooling, brakes, aero ext. They won't, and that lets HPDE track guys and tuners to figure out the hard way what works over long term.
The warranty may be your best investment ever?
You should come over and hang out with us as I think we are getting out to Beaver Run next season. Looks like a track that a Vette would work well at. We have a missing event because of the closure of Watkins Glen and are trying to fill it. I am pretty sure we would make the trip to Mid Ohio if we knew some other Drivers going as well. I am happy to buy drinks!! My guess is you will be too if it doesn't go quite the way you expect!! You might not be quite as happy about buying them for my Wife if she get's past in her wreck.
It's all about fun!!I envy blkbrd69 in that warm weather he gets to run all year round. I would take his car too!!
Enjoy the car and have fun! Hope to see these C7's out with us next season.









