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Old 01-09-2018, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by saleen556
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Yep Roll racing is best done with a Manual M7 !
Just like the 1/4 is best done with the A8! Those are the facts my friends.
Old 01-09-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Yep Roll racing is best done with a Manual M7 !
Just like the 1/4 is best done with the A8! Those are the facts my friends.
Excuse me, but aren't you the guy, who in another thread, didn't even realize that his A8 had rev-matching?

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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Excuse me, but aren't you the guy, who in another thread, didn't even realize that his A8 had rev-matching?
Rev matching is a manual feature. According to GM not me! You can sound foolish which you do. By calling your service department and ask to talk to a tech and ask them.
If have further questions call another dealer!
Your lack of understanding about the simplest of things has been proven over and over to me so I have no wish to argue with you.
Nor do I care what you may "think" is rev matching.

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Old 01-09-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticz1
this theory has worked for me for a while, as long as you time it correctly. The second i get on the gas (while in the desired gear), i immediately manually move the console shifter back to drive and let the car do it’s thing. Works like a charm
^^ this
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
By calling your service department and ask to talk to a tech and ask them.
If have further questions call another dealer!
Oh my, call dealers for tech information? How lame! In case you failed to notice, I'm in Detroit, which is practically crawling with gen-you-wine automotive engineers.
Now go back to tending your pot farm, and try not to waste so much of your potential profits on personal consumption.
Old 01-09-2018, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Oh my, call dealers for tech information? How lame! In case you failed to notice, I'm in Detroit, which is practically crawling with gen-you-wine automotive engineers.
Now go back to tending your pot farm, and try not to waste so much of your potential profits on personal consumption.
Your so lost on things I think it is best if you do call them. Ask them about the rev match feature on the A8?
Maybe ask them why the A8 has the better 60ft over the M7 that is another thing that you have no idea about! Gen-you wine rev matching?

Old 01-09-2018, 07:08 PM
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While cruising along push pedal to floor quickly release, the trans will go into performance shift mode it will show up on the display, it drops down to the lowest gear possible and is very aggressive, hang on and go.This is also in the owners manual

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
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I raced a Paxton supercharged ACR Viper this weekend in Mexico, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHg9vTKw4A
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OMG . street racing seems so dangerous, u could have killed someone.
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This has been discussed for a few years.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rev-match.html
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
This ^^^


Your illusions of grandeur with the C6Z in every one of your posts is entertaining... BTW, I beat a head/cam C6Z from a 45 roll in my C7Z A8 this weekend...I had a car gap on him by 150... By your calculations, he should have RAPED me....




The A8 on the stock tune is very picky about starting and shifting points. The trick is to pull the shifter down into Manual, paddle to the gear you want to start in, as SOON as you nail it, shift it back to Drive and let it shift itself. If you are starting in 2nd, you can not start faster then 45 mph, even though you have plenty of RPMs, the computer/trans will not complete the 2-3 shift before its on the limiter.

The gear spacing for roll racing is awkward. 2nd gear starts are too high for anything over 45 mph.....And 3rd gear starts are WAY too slow for anything under a 75 roll.... You would think with 8 speeds, roll racing gear selection would be easier but..its not the case.


I raced a Paxton supercharged ACR Viper this weekend in Mexico, he wanted to start from 60 mph, which ended up being 55 mph....I was in 3rd and it just KILLED me on the start...he went through 2nd and some of 3rd before I even got through 3rd.... I still tied him at 143 mph though... He was quite surprised....(as was I...LOL)...Notice how long my car was in 3rd...starting at like 3400 rpms...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHg9vTKw4A


If we had gone from a 45 roll with me in 2nd, he would have been in trouble.
^^^^^^^^^^
THIS..... can’t believe all the other crap posts. This is reality/works
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Ajrothm stated, "The gear spacing for roll racing is awkward. 2nd gear starts are too high for anything over 45 mph."

Curious, why would 55 mph in 2nd be too high to start? Wheel spin or near red line already? I know the gearing is way different, but my M7 can nearly hit 100mph at the top of 2nd. I'd like to know what RPM you are running in 2nd @ 55.
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I find the performance algorithm method way better than the method most of you guys are mentioning here. I find it too easy to move the level too hard and slap the car into neutral causing you the race.

in the mode i use, the shifts are faster and more harder than the transmission shifting in regular auto mode

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Originally Posted by DRLC5
While cruising along push pedal to floor quickly release, the trans will go into performance shift mode it will show up on the display, it drops down to the lowest gear possible and is very aggressive, hang on and go.This is also in the owners manual
exactly what I'm trying to tell people in this thread. I find it too easy when your adrendaline is pumping to push it into neutral by accident.
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Looking forward to trying some of these things, when the weather warms up enough to give me even a hint of traction.

If the "pedal tromp to downshift and hold that gear" method eliminates the possibility of the next shift failing to execute properly, that's sounding pretty good.

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Originally Posted by SharkbyteLT4
I find the performance algorithm method way better than the method most of you guys are mentioning here. I find it too easy to move the level too hard and slap the car into neutral causing you the race.

in the mode i use, the shifts are faster and more harder than the transmission shifting in regular auto mode
That method works too but I find it's less consistent (in my experience). I almost feel like I'm playing the arcade game Cruisin USA doing it too lol.
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Originally Posted by mallett435
Ajrothm stated, "The gear spacing for roll racing is awkward. 2nd gear starts are too high for anything over 45 mph."

Curious, why would 55 mph in 2nd be too high to start? Wheel spin or near red line already? I know the gearing is way different, but my M7 can nearly hit 100mph at the top of 2nd. I'd like to know what RPM you are running in 2nd @ 55.
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55 mph in 2nd, technically there is still plenty of rpms....I’d guess it’s about 4500 in 2nd at that speed, however, the problem is that the amount of time it takes the computer to either detect the paddle shifter input OR detect the shifter is back in Drive and to take over shifting, will allow the engine to crash into the rev limiter before it makes the 2-3 shift. So it’s not as much about RPMs, it’s more about how long it takes the PCM to react. I’m sure some trans tuning and bumping the rev limiter will alleviate this problem once you are ready to give up the warranty.

Originally Posted by SharkbyteLT4
I find the performance algorithm method way better than the method most of you guys are mentioning here. I find it too easy to move the level too hard and slap the car into neutral causing you the race.

in the mode i use, the shifts are faster and more harder than the transmission shifting in regular auto mode
I have played around with the “Performance shift” mode as well... it is fun to play with, however in roll racing, it can be a pain in the ***, as you are trying to pace your opponent, matching speeds, start times, dodging traffic etc etc....if you wait too long, the Performance shift mode will upshift back up before you start the race, and then when you nail it, it may or may not down shift back to the ideal starting gear. It’s just too inconsistent for competition use, at least for me.

I wish the paddle shifting was better and quicker responding, that way we can control the shift points. I find on the stock trans tune, the trans shifts at different rpms for different gears...sometimes it shifts way early at 6100-6200... then other gears it’s at 6500... it’s weird, but I have gotten pulled before due to an early upshift and it’s annoying.
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Looking forward to trying some of these things, when the weather warms up enough to give me even a hint of traction.

If the "pedal tromp to downshift and hold that gear" method eliminates the possibility of the next shift failing to execute properly, that's sounding pretty good.
You will be amazed!
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I agree with the drop of the shifter and once you nail it pop it back into full auto. As far as a stock car, 30-130 starting in second I think is the bread and butter.
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If your in 5th gear and drop the shifter, your still in 5th gear.
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
What's the trick for getting the A8 into the power band for roll racing?
When I use the paddles to down-shift in auto mode, often the temporary "manual shift mode" doesn't time out soon enough for the transmission to make the next shift automatically, so it hangs on the rev limiter.

I'd rather have the trans in full auto mode after the start of a "race", because that seems to be faster.

Will it work to select "manual" on the console shifter, downshift with the paddles, start the race, and immediately move the console shifter back to Drive? Will that put it back into auto shift mode without any time delay?

Sorry for needing to ask, it's too cold here right now to experiment for myself.
The "Roll Racing" I have run into usually is a spontaneous exercise with little planning ahead (such as stoplight-to-stoplight stuff).
I just leave it in auto and concentrate on hooking up and avoiding any nearby curbs or trees.


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