It’s ugly
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Oh no, you're so smart, you have me in a corner. Listen dingo, all sports cars are in the .3-.35 range. WELLLLLLLLL????????
So you don't have an improved version, good Lord I'm glad I'm sitting down to find that out. You are simply a venomous troll that can't improve anything, just criticize what others do. If you really were correct, people would be put off by the looks and the dealers wouldn't have orders, turns out, you're wrong.
So you don't have an improved version, good Lord I'm glad I'm sitting down to find that out. You are simply a venomous troll that can't improve anything, just criticize what others do. If you really were correct, people would be put off by the looks and the dealers wouldn't have orders, turns out, you're wrong.
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It’s all in the shape. The large flat deck allows for a larger trunk. Shortening that by 6 inches or so would have helped the proportions in many of our eyes. Clever engineering, yes — but surely a styling compromise.
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You can't shorten it 6" and have proper crash management (there has to be a crumple zone before the transaxle is impacted, and you can't vertically shorten it and still fit the targa roof.
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Most don't take those tops off anyway because of the severe buffeting caused by the fixed rear window and remaining roof structure. It's also cumbersome to stop and take it on and off, so they just stay on. I also think it's very unattractive with the large sunroof removed, and have always felt the same about the targa coupes.
Moreover, carrying a bunch of stuff is not one of my priorities in a sports cars, but that's just my preference.
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Stop it. The C8 has no supernatural properties that make it exempt from the same physical laws that govern the photographs of all other cars. And objects. In the universe. The C8 is IN FACT an extremely boxy and busy design. Love it all you want. Nothing wrong with that. Your taste is your prerogative.But that doesn't stop it from being boxy and busy as all hell. It's what we scientists call "reality."
My comments have nothing to do with "clinging to past models." The C8 is a truly great car. A magnificent automotive achievement. It is also an inexplicably bizarre exterior design. And that design can't be explained away by "price" or "luggage carrying requirements."Both those statements are true. Simultaneously.Do you get that yet?
My comments have nothing to do with "clinging to past models." The C8 is a truly great car. A magnificent automotive achievement. It is also an inexplicably bizarre exterior design. And that design can't be explained away by "price" or "luggage carrying requirements."Both those statements are true. Simultaneously.Do you get that yet?
It ain't workin' for me either. I've seen enough of it in photos to determine how scr#wed-up the design of
the car is.
There's nothing wrong with that observation either. It's just the way it is.
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So? The same guy could fit in my C7 convertible's trunk. He may be grown, but he's not all that large anyway.
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I spent a lot of time around it at the road America Corvette corral, the more I looked at it the more beautiful it became. Leaving the track it pulled out in front of me and I followed it on the highway for 30 miles. Beautiful on the road as well. To me as you study the car the Corvette and Chevrolet lineage is definitely there
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I would agree w Iron V in that I find the design very busy and not very coherent. I can see the rear end paying “homage” to the Chevy family lineage, particularly the now defunct Cruze. I would still buy an ME, especially w something better than an OHV simply because I have been waiting for the promise of an ME Corvette since the late 60’s and have always loved Vettes. However, I would also consider an alternative like a used Alfa 4C, whose carrozzeria I find to be more distinctive coherent and unified.
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KAOS,
I see that you own a 1966 C2 Vert.
Your joined Corvette Forum in 2018, but I have never seen a post on the C2 Forum, introducing yourself to fellow C2 owners, and posting a picture of your car, a 1966 BB 427 with a Rock Crusher transmission. Not one post on that forum.
Glanced through read all you posts, all in C8 Section. From your first one in 2018 before before the C8 reveal, every one of your posts, has been about how ugly the C8 is. You even consider the C3 the best looking Corvette of all times, Vs even the C2 Body Styling is considered a Classic (by the way the only new Corvette I've every owned was a 1969 Corvette Coup, which by the way I bought in the San Francisco Bay area, when I worked in Field Service for a Major Military Contractor on a Fight Test Program, at Travis AFB, on all weather landing system back in 1968-1971).
Why don't you come over, introduce yourself and post a picture of your 66.
By the way, why a C2, rather than a C3 which you consider it to be the best looking Corvette Body Style of all time?
I see that you own a 1966 C2 Vert.
Your joined Corvette Forum in 2018, but I have never seen a post on the C2 Forum, introducing yourself to fellow C2 owners, and posting a picture of your car, a 1966 BB 427 with a Rock Crusher transmission. Not one post on that forum.
Glanced through read all you posts, all in C8 Section. From your first one in 2018 before before the C8 reveal, every one of your posts, has been about how ugly the C8 is. You even consider the C3 the best looking Corvette of all times, Vs even the C2 Body Styling is considered a Classic (by the way the only new Corvette I've every owned was a 1969 Corvette Coup, which by the way I bought in the San Francisco Bay area, when I worked in Field Service for a Major Military Contractor on a Fight Test Program, at Travis AFB, on all weather landing system back in 1968-1971).
Why don't you come over, introduce yourself and post a picture of your 66.
By the way, why a C2, rather than a C3 which you consider it to be the best looking Corvette Body Style of all time?
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-- A high percentage of Love it or Hate it opinions here --
I suspect, in reality, that the majority of future buyers are like me: I think Chevy did an "OK" job with the car. It looks pretty good from some angles, not so good from other angles. When I first saw the rear end I was pretty disappointed, but it's slowly starting to grow on me.
I think it will have "impact" and "presence" on the street because there are some extreme accents to the design -- busy and boxy (I have to agree with IRON V a bit here) as the execution may be-- and I look forward to the higher performance models to see if the design gets a bit more polish.
I suspect, in reality, that the majority of future buyers are like me: I think Chevy did an "OK" job with the car. It looks pretty good from some angles, not so good from other angles. When I first saw the rear end I was pretty disappointed, but it's slowly starting to grow on me.
I think it will have "impact" and "presence" on the street because there are some extreme accents to the design -- busy and boxy (I have to agree with IRON V a bit here) as the execution may be-- and I look forward to the higher performance models to see if the design gets a bit more polish.
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I think "OK" is the fairest thing one can say. I can't look at it objectively and say it's beautiful, and I can't look at it and say it's ugly. It's just OK.
To those who want it to be beautiful, their self-fulfilling desires will make it so, and vice versa.
To those who want it to be beautiful, their self-fulfilling desires will make it so, and vice versa.
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Have you seen it in person? the side of the car is gorgeous... the fender lines and side scoop and hips are just flat out exotic sexy. The front is nice, but lots of lambo, the rear is the weakest part... it's busy, but it works.
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OK, that's another constraint that dictated the design. Other ME cars don't have that constraint. It still made the butt taller than I prefer. I would have preferred a fixed roof in the interests of a nicer looking car, and since they're building a HT convertible, let that satisfy the open air crowd. Unfortunately, the convertible then got the same tall butt so that rear didn't require an all new design.
Most don't take those tops off anyway because of the severe buffeting caused by the fixed rear window and remaining roof structure. It's also cumbersome to stop and take it on and off, so they just stay on. I also think it's very unattractive with the large sunroof removed, and have always felt the same about the targa coupes.
Moreover, carrying a bunch of stuff is not one of my priorities in a sports cars, but that's just my preference.
Most don't take those tops off anyway because of the severe buffeting caused by the fixed rear window and remaining roof structure. It's also cumbersome to stop and take it on and off, so they just stay on. I also think it's very unattractive with the large sunroof removed, and have always felt the same about the targa coupes.
Moreover, carrying a bunch of stuff is not one of my priorities in a sports cars, but that's just my preference.
It is what it is. I think GM wanted to accommodate a lot of people and sacrificed weight and overall dimensions to get there. I personally always thought my C7 was a little big (which was larger than the C6) and the C8 looks even bigger. With the reduced front end I am hoping it drives smaller than it is, but this car is not small or light by any means in terms of being a 2 seat sports car.
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The C8 is a great car, but holy crap.
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As to the “opinions” that the rear facia is vertically a too tall design constrained primarily by the Targa Top storage could have been easily worked around, even keeping the two golf bag requirement. Just look at the composite picture below and IMO the “too tall” Vertically aspect could have been reduced by having the rear fenders roll over and down about 1-2” and thus still be able to store the Targa Top on virtually the same angle. Likewise, the rear facia width could have been reduced 1-2” on either side as well thus resulting in an increased rear wheel fender flare view from behind. Just shrink rear facia details as necessary especially in the center .
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